http://www.ichv.org/index.htm) It was hard to keep up, and all my bookmarks aren't very organized. @[email protected] By the way, I am mbs357, MNViking is a pretty cool guy, otherwise... EDITED: For ease of reading...I hope. <Viking> so, why do you need assualt weapon guns <mbs357> Who said I needed one? <Viking> why shouldnt they be banned <mbs357> Because they haven't done anything wrong. <mbs357> Should I ban you because you look scary? <Viking> you cant protect yourself any better with an assualt weapon thanwith a regualr weapon <mbs357> Who said I needed one because they were better than regular weapons? <mbs357> My single barrel shotgun is perfect for HD. <mbs357> It could be a bit shorter and I'd rather have a pump. <mbs357> But it's no better or worse than any kind of 'assault weapon.' <mbs357> Yea, pistol grips are nice. <mbs357> But I prefer the classic grips. <mbs357> Where'd you go? =( <Viking> i dont see the point of them though <Viking> "Large" or "High" capacity detachable magazine, usually defined as holding more than 10 rounds <mbs357> rgr. <mbs357> THe point in that is. <mbs357> To be able to shoot more without reloading. <Viking> why would someone want to do that though <Viking> if you cant hit the person your first 10 shots you suck <mbs357> lol. <mbs357> What if the person sucks? <mbs357> he shouldn't be able to use a rifle for HD because he sucks? <Viking> they should get some more training and get a handgun <mbs357> Not much training is required to use a handgun. <mbs357> "don't point it at people you don't want to kill, and keep your finger off the trigger" is about it. <Viking> and why did the person miss 10 times then <mbs357> Maybe because he was scared, it was dark. <Viking> maybe they shouldnt be as scared, they have a gun <mbs357> You wouldn't be scared if someone broke into your home? <mbs357> At like 1 AM? <mbs357> Even if you weren't scared. <mbs357> It'd probably be pretty dark. <mbs357> There aren't many lightswitches in my home. <mbs357> Who knows where they are in other homes. <Viking> yeah, but probably not enough to miss so many times <Viking> if you miss 10 times you are already dead if the other guy has a gun <mbs357> What if there are two or three of them? <mbs357> So you shouldn't even bother? <mbs357> Just give up and let him kill you? <Viking> how many burglaries happen iwth two or three people <mbs357> Or rape you or take all your things or whatever he came to do? <mbs357> I just read about one with two suspects. <Viking> i doubt it happens often <mbs357> I read another not long ago with about a half dozen suspects. <mbs357> It happens enough. <Viking> theyll probably shoot themselves because one wants the golden necklace <mbs357> I'd hope. <mbs357> You still haven't told me why I shouldn't own an 'assault weapon' though. <Viking> because they can be more easily used for multiple killings <mbs357> hmmm. <mbs357> If this is true: "<Viking> you cant protect yourself any better with an assualt weapon than with a regualr weapon" <Viking> or a silencer, yeah, i need that for home protection <mbs357> Then how can that you just said be true? <mbs357> Dude, guns are loud. They can deafen you without protection. <mbs357> But seriously. <mbs357> If the gun isn't good for home defense (killing the intruder), how can it be good for an attack (killing the person)? <mbs357> What you're failing to realise is that assault weapons function not very differently from hunting rifles and the like. <mbs357> Most assault weapons have less muzzle velocity, reliabilty. <mbs357> And hunting rifles come in a lot larger calibers. <mbs357> So how can you tell me that assault weapons suck for defense, but are too good for offense? <Viking> protection /= mutliple killings <mbs357> Multiple killings can be done with SUVs. <mbs357> And who says you can't kill multiple things with a hunting rifle? <mbs357> Who says you can't defend your home with an AR-15 or an AK-47? <mbs357> A hunter doesn't pick a semi auto 7mm-08 rifle because it gives the animal a fighting chance. <mbs357> He chooses it because that critter will probably go down in one shot. <mbs357> If there were more than oen deer, I'm sure he could kill a bunch of them. <mbs357> But deer are usually smarter than people and run away. <Viking> bah, i dont care anymore <mbs357> And a home owner doesn't pick an AK-47 because he wants to kill multiple thngs. He picks it because it has a fairly large magazine, is incredibly easy to maintain, and has a very good cartridge.