Another Non-firearm weapon of interest ...

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by craftsman, Mar 6, 2014.

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  1. glistam

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    ugaarguy, you beat me to it about Georgia. You are the man!

    For the record I have looked at the laws of all 50 states (at some point or another) and a significant number of them permit purpose-made blunt force weapons, at the very least unconcealed. In Arizona you can carry anything as long as you're over 21. Maryland definitely allows them unconcealed, and has no law about concealed except for "sandclubs" and nunchaku.
     
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    Carrying a sap in Ohio will get you charged with a felony thus costing you your right to possess firearms.

    2923.11 Weapons control definitions.
    As used in sections 2923.11 to 2923.24 of the Revised Code:

    (A) "Deadly weapon" means any instrument, device, or thing capable of inflicting death, and designed or specially adapted for use as a weapon, or possessed, carried, or used as a weapon.


    2923.12 Carrying concealed weapons.
    (A) No person shall knowingly carry or have, concealed on the person's person or concealed ready at hand, any of the following:
    (1) A deadly weapon other than a handgun;

    Ohio case law has held that a tire iron is a deadly weapon under the ORC. I believe the case was in the Cincinnati area.
     
  3. craftsman

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    WOW! quite a bit of fascinating information! Although both the cane and the boomerang could be used as a bludgeoning weapon, both have alternate primary purposes - the cane, to keep me upright on long walks, and the boomerang (more properly defined as a "kylie" or "Rabbit Stick" based on the fact that it is non-returning by design) as a "toy" (c'mon - how many folks in Eastern Pennsylvania do you think will know how to use one of them for hunting or self defense?) If observed, while throwing it for practice, I can always claim that I don't know the correct way to throw it so it returns. Check out the 3 minute demo video they made: http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/92BRG/BOOMERANG.aspx
     
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    I think you will find that most laws talk about intent. That is if you carry an object with intent to use it illegally or without justification.

    Just about anything can be used as a weapon if you intend to use it as such. Picking up a lawn rake to go after a neighbor who ticked you off will get you in trouble but using a rake to defend yourself from him attacking you will not. Using a walking stick to defend yourself is ok but using it to beat up Grandma's new boyfriend is not.

    Possession does not equal intent. The law would have to prove that you intended to use it as a weapon. Point is the circumstances dictate the legal ramifications. Carrying around a baseball bat, fish bat, or tire thumper is appropriate in certain situations. Using it for self defense depends on the circumstances.
     
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    Sorry, duplicate.
     
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    I received the "boomerang" last night. Have not had a chance to play with it as yet. It is huge! Well over 2 ft. wide, and heavy. It WILL leave a mark on anything it hits.

    If properly thrown, I expect: (a.) It can go 100 yards in a clearing (will head to the HS football field this weekend to play and verify distance), (b.) it can easily break a deer leg, (c.) it can take out most small game (raccoon, squirrel, 'possum, rabbit, goose, pheasant, quail, duck, etc.) ... IN A SURVIVAL SITUATION (don't need folks reminding me that its not legal to hunt with in Pennsylvania). Did some research on "rabbit stick" - that's what this is most like.

    Can't wait for the Blackthorn cane to arrive.
     
  7. craftsman

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    The CS Blackthorn cane arrived. I need to get a (most likely chair) tip to protect the end and make it look more like a walking cane than a weapon. Still have not had the time to get to the HS football field to toss the non-returning boomerang. Maybe this weekend?

    The Blackthorn is the heaviest of any of my canes (28 oz.), is molded to look like a small blackthorn tree (rootball handle, knobby body where the thorns and branches were) that was cut down to make a walking stick cane, even has the horizontal lenticels as though it were real bark (OK, my BS is in plant science, so you're just gonna have to Google "lenticels" LOL). It is not the world's most comfortable. However, it is formidible. I can see why a 4 ft. or longer one was banned by the Brits when they occupied Ireland back in the day.
     
  8. Hullraiser

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    I could see where a cane could become useful in many ways.they could also be taken where other weapons wouldn't be allowed. Not sure about a boomerang.
    I've always been puzzled how knifes are demonized more so than guns under the laws. Ohio is one of those states that it's ok for CCW pistol , but not a knife over so many inches that's concealed. I have a couple KaBars that are strictly for defense. The one is fixed blade the other a folder I thought I wouldn't use much. Turns out the folder is all I carry because the pocket clip is exposed while knife is concealed. It's a fine line
     
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