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Another student "Thought Crime"

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by TexasRifleman, Oct 17, 2007.

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  1. TexasRifleman

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302557,00.html

    OK the idiot wore a bullet proof vest to school, he's a moron.

    He's also 18 and purchasing a shotgun and AK47 is perfectly legal, so is videotaping your dorky friends shooting it.

    Looking past all the hype and BS, the kid had a can of pepper spray in his car. That's all?
    Yeah yeah, it's a "grenade"......once again perfectly legal to own at age 18.

    How do you get a charge of grand theft when the same article says he purchased all this stuff?

    Sloppy reporting again, at it's best.

    I don't know why I bother to read the news any longer.

    Who knows what really happened here....
    And I'm not saying the guy is a saint either, he may have really been planning something, but the way the press approaches these things is what really gets me.


    Article from a local new station in Florida:

     
  2. LiquidTension

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    So...what exactly did the kid do wrong? I'm guessing that the "grenades" are a delusion of the reporter.
     
  3. Autolycus

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    Probably deactivated grenades or some smoke grenades. The standards of good reporting have not been met in this article.

    I would like to know what exactly he did and what he stole that he was charged with grand theft.
     
  4. TexasRifleman

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    Well I got curious and I did find a vendor selling the pepper spray stuff and the maker does call it a "grenade" so I guess the press gets a pass for that one this time :) Sorta.....

     
  5. frankcostanza

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    wow if they call 2 guns, a taser and a vest a "weapons cache" what does that make most of our collections? :neener:
     
  6. Bacchus

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    I just read the report on fox news and was wondering the exact same thing...no mention of what he did, other than wearing a vest on school property.
     
  7. El Tejon

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    What's the beef, chief?:confused:

    What do they say he nicked?:confused:
     
  8. BridgeWalker

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    The "grand theft" in quote #1 probably refers to the newspaper box in #2...
     
  9. RoadkingLarry

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    Probably charged with stealing the newspaper box.
    As far as the bullet proof vest goes I think in light of past events not a bad idea for campus wear;).

    Now, what I want to know- Did he have a weapon on campus? or is wearing the body armor considered being armed? Is his home a dorm? if not then from what I see there should be hell to pay for messing with this kid.
    If he and friends did steal a paper box then yeah, nail 'em for that but I would not be surprised to find out the box was already at the "range".
     
  10. jerkface11

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    So he's in jail for a dress code violation?
     
  11. MASTEROFMALICE

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    What we need is a comprehensive list to give to reporters for their spin jobs. Examples would be:

    1 revolver = a semi-automatic machine gun
    3 guns = a weapons cache
    5 guns = an arsenal
    A brick of .22 = Thousands of rounds of ammunition for the above mentioned semi-automatic machine gun

    And so on and so forth.

     
  12. plexreticle

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    I guess I should go turn myself in.
     
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    this is the exact reason i watch the websites i visit online. I've never broken a law in my life, and yet any minute somebody could walk in saying i am conspiring to commit a crime just because i own a gun. actually, i apparently own a large weapons cache with access to an arsenal. i do have a lot of ammunition because like anybody i stock up when the price is right, then shoot it down over the course of several months.

    I feel like i cant go to website like Glocktalk because glocks are evil, and i dont really care about them. But i shouldnt be worried that just because i looked at machine guns i cant possible buy that cops are going to come in and arrest me. I have no interest in harming anyone, i dont even hunt, but that doesnt save me from profiling if i go to the wrong website. it's just disgusting. was this guy crazy and waiting for his day in the news? maybe, but the story has the actual events massively over blown. he shot at a box and this is an important addition to the story?


    here i am in the land of the free wondering if it's even ok to speak my mind!
     
  14. ClickClickD'oh

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    Okay... so we can't wear our firearm on campus to defend ourselves... because the law abiding, background checked, trained firearms owners are too dangerous.. And we can't wear body armor to hopefully stay alive when the non law abiding, non background checked, non trained criminal thugs open fire? Okay, can we bring razors to slit our wrists and make our impending deaths that much faster?
     
  15. rino451

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    Sure, as long as you're with the media...
     
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    I go to college in Florida as well. Yesterday, during class discussion, my teacher asked me what I'm interested in. I was actually pondering the 12 Guage Rifle From Hell thread at that moment so without thinking I said "Guns". The ENTIRE class (mostly girls) turned to look at me after I said that and most of them were looking like I was the VT shooter.

    There was another thread about a student who was detained by police because a fellow student had called police because she saw him on one of these forums discussing the process of purchasing a firearm in CA. When she called the police she said he was discussing the illegal purchase of machineguns or something else that was completely inaccurate. In the end the police searched him to make sure he wasn't armed and let him go.

    Bottom line is that it's probobly best to keep your enthusiasm for firearms a secret on campus. I will be from now on.
     
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    And then they win again.

    One key to the RKBA fight is desensitization. The antifreedom folks want the exact reaction from the masses that you got when you said 'guns'. I'd answer 'guns' again if asked. The more the mass of uninformed media followers hear and see examples of guns as nothing more than the inanimate tools they are, the less likely they are to cower in sheer terror at the utterance of a three letter word.
     
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    Pointless, it doesn't sound like they had a serious threat, just the kid being goofy wearing his vest to school.

    Basically this is another step in vilifying gun owners.
     
  19. Doggy Daddy

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    There was just a quick bit on this kid on Fox News. They said he had 3 AK assault rifles, a shotgun, and 2000 rounds of ammo. They also mentioned that he engaged in weapons training.

    Yeah. It'd be so much better if he DIDN'T train!

    Plinking = weapons training now? :barf:
     
  20. K3

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    Well, you never know when an aluminum can is going to go postal...
     
  21. RLsnow

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    poor kid, im sure hes not having a pleasant time with all this
     
  22. MilsurpShooter

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    Talk about convoluted facts, makes it sound like this kid got charged with "armed trespassing, grand theft and criminal mischief"

    Just for having

    "purchased body armor, a Taser, AK-47s, a shotgun, gas mask and ammunition among other items, officials said."

    Be interesting to see once more facts and clarifications come about
     
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    So is it against the law in his state to wear body armor in public or in a school? Is it against the law for him to purchase various weapons?
     
  24. PPGMD

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    I believe the law in Florida that body armor is only prohibiting during the commissioning of a felony. The gas grenade might be illegal, but I doubt it because for the most part only explosives are prohibited under Florida law.
     
  25. Blackbeard

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    I think it's time to charge all the reporters with inciting violence for their reporting of school shootings. Obviously after the first one they are all copycats that would not have happened without the broadcast media putting the idea in their malformed little heads.

    The first amemdment was never intended to allow people to incite violence. The framers never imagined electronic media that enables people to reach millions at once. The first amendment should only apply to hand-powered printing presses.
     
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