Anti's that actually have knowledge on firearms?

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Some men you just can't reach !

It certainly doesn't help when EVERY gun related crime is in the news.

I think the anti's LIKE the bad news because it gives them something to focus their attention.
 
Carolyn McCarthy and Diane Feinstein are two prime examples.

If McCarthy's husband had been carrying that night on the train, he might still be here and she would still be home baking cookies. :barf:
 
My Saiga-12 18" Side-folder is setup for Trap.... just ask the fudds I beat last time I went out. 23's and 24's are fun to shoot, Still after the elusive 25 with the Saiga.
 
One genius in Seattle referred to those nasty "25 mm handguns", and then there were the semiautomatic revolvers.... I'd like to see the guy who's shooting that 25 mm handgun, the size of the guy would likely put the fear into anyone of normal size. And aren't all DA revolvers semiauto? The fire once per trigger pull don't they.
 
We should try to find the most humorous combination of firearm definitions.

.50 CAL 12 GAUGE SEMIAUTO DOUBLE BARREL REVOLVER MACHINE GUN!
 
Fear breeds in ingorance.

Haveing converted a few anti gunners I always think of the guy with the .38 snubby making a 150 yard shot to the top of a building on T.V. and people believing it. There was a time I had to convince my wife (former anti gunner who can shoot as well or better than me now) this is not possiable.

My only hope was Betty Lou.. she was da one, a combination.. AK 57, UZI , radar, laser, triple barrel, double scoped, heat seeking shot gun.
 
Of course, rather than hanging out here patting each other on the fanny for being so much better than those people, we could be doing something crazy like making a polite and sincere attempt to educate the ignorant.
Polite.
Sincere.
Not sneering.
Not jeering.
Educate.
Not dominate.
You may now return to your sneering and fanny patting.
 
I can think of two professors off the top of my head that teach at my school that are Fudds. They own guns and hunt and know something about firearms, but they don't give a rat's ass about the 2A.
 
plenty of people my age have knowledge of the guns (models, makes, calibers, etc.), but nothing about their legal and technical definitions, and general facts about the issue. the latter two are usually the problem.
 
Not any real knowledge but most antis as I see it are not the types of people to hold any interests in guns. Most of them are folks who simply seem to follow Lemming like trails of fact-and-reason absent information.

I once had to explain to an anti why it's a far smarter thing to carry a gun than a knife for self-defense along the lines of "Who brings a gun to a knife fight...the winner." He goes to my law school and can't understand why I now have three women (none of them single or available, not that it matters 'cause of fiance), two guys, and once in a blue moon my previous Torts professor(first time he ever fired a gun was at the range with us, and I turned him onto gunbroker where bought a Heritage .22lr revolver) who go to the range with me every few weeks.

The only anti I know is my constitutional law professor at my law school and he isn't a hardcore anti, he straddles the fence. He's pro-2nd amendment but doesn't believe in any full-auto weapons for law-abiding adults, doesn't think folks should own .50 BMGs, and wants stricter licensing for guns but oddly enough is pro-concealed carry, granted he has a concealed carry license. To boot he's an Alabama born and raised genuine southernner and a.....<in a frightened voice> liberal.

We haven't butted heads because that would be bad for my grades, I just leave it at "No one is perfect". He did....did hunt in Alabam. And he does own an old Beretta 92 and a couple of duck guns as he told me once when I invited him out to the range.
 
Of course, rather than hanging out here patting each other on the fanny for being so much better than those people, we could be doing something crazy like making a polite and sincere attempt to educate the ignorant.

I don't bother with the ignorant any more.

I go after their children as a firearms instructor.
 
We should try to find the most humorous combination of firearm definitions.

.50 CAL 12 GAUGE SEMIAUTO DOUBLE BARREL REVOLVER MACHINE GUN!

Hang on Carl, I think that could actually work. It's the double barrel part that makes it possible. One side would have to be some sort of a 12 Gauge DA Revolver, that would sort of fulfill the semiauto part... kind of. The other barrel would be a chain fed .50 cal. Then you just use double triggers, a nice walnut bench stock and a hummer to lay the thing across.
 
I do remember something about Sarah Brady buying a 30-06 for her son or something. I bet she knows a lot about guns, and just doesn't care. The more she knows about them, the more effectively she can lobby against them. Gun control is her thing.
 
I ran across a decent scattering of people in the Marines who supported gun control. Not the majority, but since the military is somewhat representative of the larger population, there were a decent number.

Then again, even Marines, even in combat arms MOSs, don't necessarily have much "knowledge" besides the specifics of what they do. That is, they may be able to shoot and maintain an M16, and recite "The M16A2 rifle is an automatic, shoulder-fired, air-cooled 5.56mm weapon", but they don't necessarily know any more than that, or care to.

Though one of the more outspoken anti-gun Marines I knew was our battalion armorer. I dropped by the armory in Ramadi (Iraq) to drop off a bunch of gun magazines and catalogs I'd gotten in the mail, thinking the armorers might enjoy reading them during downtime, and he was very displeased about it. He basically said that Marines liking guns outside of work was unwholesome, and that only psychos and wannabes owned non-issue firearms.

He'd grown up in some rough neighborhood in L.A., and explained "I've seen what guns can do to a person." I found it rather odd that he basically implied that others didn't understand the dangers of weapons, yet all of us were in a warzone at the time, in a combat unit.

So there are definitely people in the military who work with firearms, and in some cases know them quite well, but are opposed to civilian ownership for political or cultural reasons.
 
the guy with the .38 snubby making a 150 yard shot

Not to the top of a building, but I have seen film of Bob Munden making shots longer than that with a .38 snubnose. (And a 1911A1 also.)

Now that is some good gun control.:evil:

Wyman
 
Interestingly enough I have had the same experience. Those who totally oppose firearms usually know nothing about them, and many seem to secretly want to go to the range.

In the dojo we would have Aikido Camps about twice a year. The founder of our style also has two dojos in Japan, and he would invite his high ranked students from Japan to come. It never failed that I would then be called to take them to the range because the first thing any of these peace loving, anti-gun Japanese wanted to do was go shooting! And none of them wanted to settle for little .22s. They wanted the biggest pistols they could get the tiny little hands on so they would have bragging rights when they went home.
 
I think we are talking level of knowledge here.

Joe Biden and John Kerry can probably shoot a mean round of clays but try to hand them an AK and they will likely vomit or cross themselves. Just because someone does not know about all firearms does not make them ignorant about all guns. But you know what they say about a little bit of knowledge being dangerous? Doubly so here.
 
Carolyn McCarthy and Diane Feinstein are two prime examples.

And that would be the Diane Feinstein that holds a CPL in California?

U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) on terrorism and self-defense:
The following comments were made by U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA) during U.S. Senate hearings on terrorism held in Washington, D.C. on April 27, 1995:

"Because less than twenty years ago I was the target of a terrorist group. It was the New World Liberation Front. They blew up power stations and put a bomb at my home when my husband was dying of cancer. And the bomb didn't detonate. ... I was very lucky. But, I thought of what might have happened. Later the same group shot out all the windows of my home."

"And, I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I'd walk to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me."
 
wow zombie thread.

"Have any of you ever come across any? "

nope. Most people in general know nothing of guns... even most of the police officers and many of the enlisted folks I know.
 
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