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Any Charter Arms fans out there?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by MinnesotaFats, Jan 25, 2014.

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  1. MinnesotaFats

    MinnesotaFats Member

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    I just bought a Charter Arms Undercover 38. Its a new production CA and im liking the overall look/feel. Ive put 300+- rounds though it so far and im impressed with its accuracy for being a "gut shooter". LGS has another nib CA Undercover im thinkin about buying. Im just wondering if these new CA are hit and miss like Rossi and Taurus and such? Anyone else have good luck with this maker? pre thanks for any replies.
     
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  2. Deltaboy1984

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    I got a 1960's era undercover Charter that hits POA at 25 yards with Horaday Critical Defense ammo.
    They are Solid guns.
     
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    I wouldn't call myself a fan, but I do have a Mag Pug DAO that shoots as good as I do. Mine was a bit rough on the back end of the trigger guard, but it is reliable and I have put several hundred rounds through it. Some day I plan on getting the 9mm Pitbull.
     
  4. MedWheeler

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    I bought one as a present to myself in December of 1987, the day I was sworn in as a LEO. It rode backup/off-duty for the next few years until I switched to an agency on whose "approved" list it apparently didn't make. It has always been a great little shooter, and has the then-rare anodized-aluminum barrel/ejector shroud on it. I still own it and carry it once in a while.

    In 2010, my dad died and the last two guns he owned became mine. I didn't know him growing up, but had re-established contact with him ten years before his death. One of those guns is also an Undercover 38, made in 1966. It, too, shoots well and is still pretty tight. That one is actually a little slimmer than mine because of the lack of a shroud and the smoother stocks, so it carries even more easily.

    Yeah, I'm happy with the brand. The ones to avoid are the ones sold after about 1990 until about 2000, under the "Charco" and "Charter 2000" names. The company has changed hands a few times over the years, but is evidently back under its original ownership.
     
  5. MinnesotaFats

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    ^ thanks guys, great posts. so in the recent years it went from Charco to Charter 2000 so what are they calling themselves now in 2014? whats the quality difference from the newer ones compared to the older ones?
     
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  6. Vonderek

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    I had a Charco which was the worst POS I ever owned even after 2 trips back to the manufacturer. Charter has a lot of fans I know but I'll pass on anything that starts with "Char".
     
  7. torqem

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    40years ago, a big gun writer for Guns or Gun World magazine,( I forget) Bob Sweiis-something or other, said he could often hit a man silhouette at 100 yds with a Charter undercover, firing one hand unsupported. So I bought one, and it soon broke the transfer bar with dryfire. It took them 6 months to send the replacement part, and I couldn't wait to get rid of it, cause by then I had bought a M60 smith stainless Chief.
     
  8. gonoles_1980

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    I have the 38 special undercover DAO

    I was getting 5-7 misfires per 50 rounds with it, and 1-2 no-fires even on the 2nd strike. I could fire these out of my KLCR 357 without issue. I took it to my gunsmith to work on. He claims he didn't do anything but look at the spring. But since he's messed with it, I haven't had any mis-fires. He did say someone shortened the spring and he'd fix that if I had anymore issues.

    Before the gunsmith, I was not happy with it, after the gunsmith, I'm pretty happy. Really like the feel of it.
     
  9. Haywood

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    I had a Charco 2000. It was great. Gave it to a lady friend that needed a carry gun. I have missed it ever since then. I have so many other Snubs I just can't justify buying another.
     
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    I have an old Undercover .38, an old Bulldog .44, and a newer Off Duty .38. All three have been great guns.
     
  11. bikerdoc

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    I got my Father-in-laws 1971 Undercover. Reliable, accurate, weapon. Wife carries it more that any other gun we own, and we own a bunch.
     
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    Has been accurate and reliable from day one. I installed Pacmyr grips
     
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    I would really like to have a CA Bulldog, but of the newer ones I have handled in the last 4 years there is just no way I would buy one.
     
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    I have a first generation Undercover, a new Undercover Lite and a new dao Bulldog. I have had no problems with any of them. They are all in my carry rotation. Often 2 at a time.
     
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    Another bulldog for the thread!
    found this one in a pawn shop a few years ago for $150, with wrecked bluing. No rust or pitting, just big blotches of missing blue.
    Used it for my first cold blue project, it looks....better. :eek:
    lost a tiny, spring loaded pin during reassembly...took a while to find another...came to HATE the cylinder release assembly.

    See it there? Its that tiny nub that is recessed into the cylinder release on the left side of the screw...that sucker is powered by a tiny spring and wants to fly far and hide deep....got a mutant tiny third hand growing from your abdomen? For once in your life it will come in handy.

    There was nothing I could do about the missing anodizing on the trigger guard and grip frame, so I don't worry about it.
    Its ugly, it proves a bulldog can be shot loose because it rattles like a maraca at lockup, but I love it for some reason.

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    Although I own a pair of S&W 638s, I carry two Charter Arms "On Duty". They just work better for me. I know there are auto loaders out there that carry more rounds than these two put together, but I prefer a snub 38 with a second for a New York reload.
    After thinking a minute, why do we still call it a New York reload, it seems it's almost impossible to carry one snub in New York much less two.

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  17. mj246

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    I'm a pretty big fan of Charter Arms, keeping in mind what they are. I own a current production hammerless Bulldog for SD and CCW once I get my license and a current production Target Pathfinder 22lr for plinking. They will never have the same fit, finish, and beauty as a good vintage S&W, but are fine little guns if you avoid the Charco and Charter 2000 ones as stated above and don't abuse them with heavy loads or super high volume shooting. (I like to stay between 100 and 200 rounds a month)

    From my experience, they are still quite a bit better than most Taurus and Rossi revolvers I've handled (never owned or shot one of those though).

    Charters are exactly what they are advertised as: a good, solid, inexpensive revolver for moderate use and always carry. They are perfect work horses for those of us that can't afford several S&Ws, Colts, or Rugers in the configurations we want. You'll still want at least one of the premier brands just to own and shoot and appreciate, but for everyday non-competition uses, a Charter Arms is a decent gun to have.
     
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    I'm a S&W guy but do admit that CA made a few gems along their way.

    The only one I have in my collection right now is a stainless pathfinder. Gave $185 for it complete with box a dozen years back. Sweet little package for pocket carry on woods walks. It's plinked more than a few pine cones in it's time with me :)

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    I have had good service with my Charter Bulldog SS(newer production) and a older blue Pathfinder .22. The Charco and Charter 2000 era guns were the ones with spotty QC. Looking at the newer Bulldog with the shrounded hammer,looks like a big S&W 649 in .44SPL.
     
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    My Bulldog from 1974. My main carry gun. Had it 40 yrs

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    Nice Son of Sam Special there. Had a old 38 spec. The front sight flew off. Factory soldered it back on.
     
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    I have a 3-year old Mag Pug. In my opinion, a POS.
    Screws constantly loosen. Cylinder chambers at the max ID. Wouldn't shoot to POA (20" low at 25 feet!) until I machined down the front sight. Would NEVER buy another.
     
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    no problems

    I had one years ago that shot the "9mm Federal" cartridge (rimmed 9mm). I sold it and wish I still had it.

    Currently have this Undercover .38 and really like it.

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    I changed the spurred hammer out for a Double Action Only hammer I ordered from Charter Arms. It is not only a spurless hammer but converts the gun to a true DAO. Only problem is my wife liked it so much that she now uses it. :uhoh:

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    I would like to locally find an older .44 Bulldog...maybe someday.


    I also have this old Pathfinder .22. I actually like it better than my other .22 handguns (two Colts, one Ruger, one NAA)

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  24. MinnesotaFats

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    Great pics a posts guys. That CA looks pretty damn sharp C&L.
     
  25. frankmako

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    the 70 model bulldog is one good gun. i been looking for the left hand model 38 sp they have out for the wife.
     
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