ArkansasFatboy
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Just wondering how many of you have one of the hungarian styer mannilichers in 8x56r. I have one but haven't played with it much. How is the accuracy on yours and do any of you handload for it?
Any Hungarian Mannilicher owners
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I have two Austrian M-95 long rifles, they're quite accurate (under a foot at 300 with iron sights, surplus ammo, and not the best shooter), and I don't reload for it. The sight flipped up with the slider slid up to reveal the fixed lowest notch still shoots a couple feet high, but once you figure out hold-under they're pretty good rifles.
Very fast if you're a lefty, and very nice handling. Plus, the concussion is fun.
If yours is really a Hungarian, with the H instead of the S on the chamber, or the BUDAPEST instead of STEYR marking, congrats! They're a bit rarer.
Very fast if you're a lefty, and very nice handling. Plus, the concussion is fun.
If yours is really a Hungarian, with the H instead of the S on the chamber, or the BUDAPEST instead of STEYR marking, congrats! They're a bit rarer.
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cracked butt
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I have a Steyr carbine. I haven't shot it much, but the accuracy looks promising at 50 yards. Only ammo I've shot is Hornady light magnums. I have a set of Lee 8x56r dies and charger clips heading my way that I recently bought off ebay. As far as bullets go, I'm planning on shooting cast loads, a lot of people have good luck using .338" moulds in the mannlichers. I haven't ordered a mould yet though as its too cold out for me to be casting right now anyhow.
challenger_i
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Hey, CB! Any new developements in your cast loads?
Gordon
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So U wrote that good article Saxonpig ! I put a Limbsaver on my Stuzen to soften those 1939 torpedoes I bought a case of 15 years ago. I shot maybe 500 and the like new Stutzen sure got smoothed out! Mine shot about on at 50 yards so I am happy. It is locked up with the other bubba'd milsurps these days. I kept it as a truck gun a couple years and like I said it was slick and a cool little carbine with a big roar.Yes it was surprisingly accurate with 2" 50 yard groups 10 years ago .2nd one from bottom
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I found the article.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Feedi...man's+solution+for+cheap+8x56R...-a0243718821
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Feedi...man's+solution+for+cheap+8x56R...-a0243718821
challenger_i
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Saxonpig: Loved your article!
Any of you gents shooting the milsurp ammo have any brass you'd part with? I have a bunch of berdan primers I'm trying to use up!
Also, I am working with a custom caster,in PA, on the Lyman 338320, and an RCBS .338,
200gr .33 WCF bullets, sized .332. Because of design, the Lyman will be a plain-base, and the RCBS is a gas check. If these work out, I'll post the caster's contact info.
Holler!
Any of you gents shooting the milsurp ammo have any brass you'd part with? I have a bunch of berdan primers I'm trying to use up!
Also, I am working with a custom caster,in PA, on the Lyman 338320, and an RCBS .338,
200gr .33 WCF bullets, sized .332. Because of design, the Lyman will be a plain-base, and the RCBS is a gas check. If these work out, I'll post the caster's contact info.
Holler!
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Hillbillyz
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Let us know how the slugs work out Challenger.
challenger_i
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You bet!
challenger_i
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8x56R Cast Bullets
I haven't forgotten my promise.
I have the bullet samples inhand, and, as soon as my life settles down a bit, I'll work up my loads, and test the bullets.
I'm looking at H4895, and Trailboss, for my propellents. However, I am open to suggestion. Do bear in mind that these will be "hunting" loads, not strictly paper-punchers.
Holler!
I haven't forgotten my promise.
I have the bullet samples inhand, and, as soon as my life settles down a bit, I'll work up my loads, and test the bullets.
I'm looking at H4895, and Trailboss, for my propellents. However, I am open to suggestion. Do bear in mind that these will be "hunting" loads, not strictly paper-punchers.
Holler!
challenger_i
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Ok, I have made some preliminary tests with my 200gr .33WCF bullets.
These were sized .332, and seated just above the top grease groove.
The Lyman plain-base bullets were tested with TrailBoss powder, and, at 19gr, would hit an inch low at 50 yards, using the battle site, and had about a 4 inch spread.
The RCBS gas-check bullets were tested with H4895, and at 40gr were hitting in the X ring, at 50 yards using the battle site, with a 3 inch spread.
I am waiting for more bullets to continue testing, but the RCBS shows a great deal of promise.
These were sized .332, and seated just above the top grease groove.
The Lyman plain-base bullets were tested with TrailBoss powder, and, at 19gr, would hit an inch low at 50 yards, using the battle site, and had about a 4 inch spread.
The RCBS gas-check bullets were tested with H4895, and at 40gr were hitting in the X ring, at 50 yards using the battle site, with a 3 inch spread.
I am waiting for more bullets to continue testing, but the RCBS shows a great deal of promise.
defcon
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My brother has one. He likes the straight pull for some reason. Straight pull somehow scares me. I will ask him about the accuracy. I have not seen him for a while.
challenger_i
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No need to be scared by the straight-pull bolt, as long as you keep the chamber pressure where it belongs. After all, the M-1 Garand, MAS 49 and many others are straight-pull bolts with a bit of gas assistance! 
The Steyr M95 has a very good track record, as structural integrety goes.
As for accuracy, it just depends on the condition of the particular rifle, as these guns vary drastically in condition.
The Steyr M95 has a very good track record, as structural integrety goes.
As for accuracy, it just depends on the condition of the particular rifle, as these guns vary drastically in condition.
defcon
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Hehehe.. true. Many gas cyclers are "straight pull." In bolt, however I am more comfortable with the lugs turning and locking and such. I always envision myself with a bolt in my forehead with a Mannlicher straight pull. But that's just me.
challenger_i
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The M95 Steyr is a turn-bolt, but the bolt head is tuend by the helical mechanism in the bolt carrier, rather than by hand. If you inspect the bolt faces of the Steyr, then the M1, you will find that bolth have about the same mating angle on the face.
The Steyr is a HOSS, as far as strength goes, as long as you stay in its pressure range. And, the MilSurp ammo has a LOT of pressure! Just sit behind one and see!
The Steyr is a HOSS, as far as strength goes, as long as you stay in its pressure range. And, the MilSurp ammo has a LOT of pressure! Just sit behind one and see!
jobu07
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I liked that article Saxon. I'm going to be trying it with my carbine.
Yes, you need en-bloc clips to feed it. The trapezoidal boxes of Nazi marked ammo generally comes in clips. Generally, anybody with a Steyr should have a few spare clips they'd just give you, but they sell on eBay and gunbroker too.
I have a 95/30 S marked carbine. gorgeous rifle and the harshest recoil of anything I own, including my .50 cal!
I bought about 300 rounds of nazi marked ammo and I haven't had any misfires from it, but it's been about 8 or 9 years since the last time I shot it. I've read that you can use 7.62x54r brass as a source for reloading. The missing 2 mm of case length doesn't effect it.
I don't have the dies for it, but if I did I'd probably download it and shoot it more often.
I'd be interested in shooting a full length Steyr in the same caliber and compare recoil with the carbine. I thought most of the full length rifles were in the original 8x50r loading though. Can anyone comment on that?
I bought about 300 rounds of nazi marked ammo and I haven't had any misfires from it, but it's been about 8 or 9 years since the last time I shot it. I've read that you can use 7.62x54r brass as a source for reloading. The missing 2 mm of case length doesn't effect it.
I don't have the dies for it, but if I did I'd probably download it and shoot it more often.
I'd be interested in shooting a full length Steyr in the same caliber and compare recoil with the carbine. I thought most of the full length rifles were in the original 8x50r loading though. Can anyone comment on that?
Most of the long rifles are converted, same as the short rifles, though the long rifles in 8x50R are much more prominent- they fetch handsome prices (up to a 7-800, depending) and are talked about much more than a generic ~$350 8x56R long-rifle.
challenger_i
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From my experience, the long rifle doesn't have quite the recoil as the cut-down carbines. Maybe, I should tool up and make recoil compenators for the carbines!
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