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Any legal limit to how much ammo you can have?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by whm1974, Jul 29, 2006.

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  1. whm1974

    whm1974 Member

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    I seem to run across people who this for some reason. But I have had people tell that me there is a Federal Law restricting how much ammo a person can have at one time. And it's always 5,000 centerfire rounds and so much Rimfire.

    Is there any truth to this? Now I read fire codes that stated how much powder you can have or how to store large amount. Even banning Black Powder. But not ammo.

    -Bill
     
  2. Car Knocker

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    There is no federal law that I am aware of limiting the amount of ammunition one may possess. Urban legend.
     
  3. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Around the AWB time, Schumer wanted to require licenses for owning more than 1,000 rounds. That didn't go anywhere and I don't believe any other federal legislation regarding the matter has passed.
     
  4. SIOP

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    Your Fire Marshall might have a limitation, but the feds don't, to my knowledge.
     
  5. beerslurpy

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    I think some localities have explicit limitations and others may have limitations based on fire hazards etc. If you live in an apartment, storing a million rounds of ammunition may prove difficult. Rounds in teh closet, under the bed, under the sink, over the stove, in the stove. But this wouldnt be a problem unless there is an explosion or a fire marshal somehow ends up inside your apartment.

    A friend in SF once got the cops called on him when a landlady found a room with reloading equipment and guns and ammunition everywhere. He collects military relics and has several registered weapons from before 2000. The cops didnt do anything because he wasnt breaking any laws.
     
  6. LAR-15

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    At one time, maybe.

    No such law now.
     
  7. armoredman

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    Limits? Sure, by storage space.
     
  8. tellner

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    At some point it will exceed the capacity of your floor to hold it up and you will be in violation of building codes :D
     
  9. gunsmith

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    if you need help storing guns and ammo

    let me know!
    I will be glad to hold onto some of your more expenive guns and will
    store your .308
    .223
    .40s&w
    .357mag.....of course for quality control I will use some once in awhile:neener:
     
  10. Shipwreck

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    The limit is a compound full :p :p :p :D
     
  11. ChestyP

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    If you check your state's explosives laws,

    you may find that there are restrictions on how many primers may be possessed, or restricted by storage method. Powder, especially black powder, may also be restricted... usually something to the effect of XX pounds in original containers, or "powder magazine required in excess of XX pounds."

    Loaded ammunition generally carries no possession prohibitions (except in NJ where everything is prohibited).
     
  12. kirkcdl

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    Why in the world would you ever tell (or admit to) anyone in the government,be it Federal,State,County,or Local,how much ammunition you have???:confused: :confused:
     
  13. cassandrasdaddy

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    be careful

    guy i bought my first house from in 78 blew himselk and wife up a year later.
    i mean big time. there were a half million unexploded rounds in his house plus some c4 and a lotta real exotic toys. f he hadn't been scattered over 2 blocks woulda been major charges. he was a cop armorer for dc police. was running a security firm seems a lotta the guns came through back door at work, dc provides some good toys too
     
  14. whm1974

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    Myself to afford problems, I would be upfront to a landlord about owing guns. I would tell him about all the guns I own, or how much ammo I have at one time, but...

    I wouldn't. But if you brought ammo online or with a CC, you now have a record.

    -Bill
     
  15. Archie

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    CassandrasDaddy...

    I gotta nickel says the composition C4 had more to do with the explosion than any amount of gunpowder or loaded rounds.

    'Smokeless' gunpowder does not explode. It burns pretty fast, but not nearly like gasoline fumes.

    Composition C4, on the other hand, is an explosive. It is designed and intended to explode. If memory serves me correctly, most states and the District of Colombia require a permit or license to own, store or use 'explosives'.

    As gently as I can say this, old boy, you are comparing apples to watermelons.
     
  16. LCSNM

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    C4 is normally safe until detonated by blasting cap or bullet type force.
    I have cut it with a knife into smaller pieces, molded it like clay around items to be destroyed . Real hard to work with if cold, but when warm like putty or clay molding. Sure makes a mess of things when detonated.
     
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    Really? Seems no one told Eric Rudolph, or his victims that. :rolleyes:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,153294,00.html
     
  18. HankB

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    Too much ammo?

    When I was a kid I remember a guy's wife called the cops on him for all the "ammo and gun stuff" he had in the basement.

    Cops took one look, evaculated the block and called the bomb squad.

    Bomb squad came, took one look, and called the Army. :what:

    Turns out the guy was military and had been stealing machine guns, mortars, mortar rounds, bazooka rockets, satchel charges, blasting blocks, Bangalore torpedos, primacord, and everything he could get his hands on for years.

    They took several truckloads of stuff out of his basement.

    This happened decades ago, but my guess is that if he's still alive, he's probably a resident of the Graybar Motel.
     
  19. Preacherman

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    Hank, I had a similar experience back in South Africa many years ago - and with an Army armorer, as well.

    I was woken at about midnight in my apartment by cops knocking on the door. I had to dress and evacuate into a city park across the road, along with all the residents of my building and all others in our block. We noticed a number of police vehicles, including an armored truck used by the Bomb Squad, parked around the block, but concentrated on the building next door to mine.

    After a while, along came an Army EOD truck, with a crew of specialists. They went into the building next to ours, and stayed there for some time. By now it was after 2 a.m., and most of us were pretty P.'ed O. at being stuck in this park with no explanation. Fortunately, it was a summer night, so temperatures were pleasant, and there was no rain.

    Next thing to happen (about 3 a.m.) was the arrival of a dozen Army trucks, which parked down the center of the road. Troops debussed and formed a human chain into the apartment building, and began passing boxes and bags from hand to hand and loading up each truck in turn. Took 7 trucks to contain the whole lot. Each truck in turn pulled up to the entrance and was loaded, then turned onto a side street and waited. MP's on motorbikes escorted the convoy and kept watch.

    While this was going on, I went over to a cop near the gate and asked him what was going on. He informed me that they'd had a domestic violence call to the building, and after arresting the guy concerned, had found a bedroom of his apartment filled to ceiling height with boxes of explosives, ammo, etc. Turns out he'd also rented the apartment next door, and it (all 5 rooms, including kitchen and bathroom) was similarly filled!

    They eventually took out something like 9 or 10 tons of explosives, ammo, and ordnance. Seems the guy had been in Army ordnance for some years, and had been bringing "souvenirs" home every night from the "office". He apparently planned to sell them off to finance his retirement. Needless to say, the latter was taken care of at the Grey Bar Hotel, where he didn't have to pay a thing for his lodgings for some years to come . . . :uhoh:
     
  20. BIGJACK

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    Smokeless powder will not explod in "normal" thin week walled containers, cans or barrels, WHOOMP-shoushhhhhhhhh is about what you get.:)

    However, if you contain it in such a manner as to allow the pressure to build up as would happen in a thick walled pipe capped at each end, when ignited it will explode--BOOOOOOM! :eek:

    Hey! but so will water if you applie enough heat.:neener:
     
  21. Jim K

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    The idea that smokeless powder doesn't explode is technically true, but it can make a pretty effective bomb nonetheless. In WWI, many American "offensive" grenades were loaded with Bullseye pistol powder.

    Jim
     
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    I seem to recall there are a few states (MD comes to mind) and some larger cities that require some kind of permit to store more than a limited amount of ammo and/or ammo components, especially black powder.

    If you think this is harsh, think about this - most cities limit how much gasoline you can store in your garage. Those two 5 gallons cans of gas you use to refill your lawnmower and snowblower might put you over the limit.
     
  23. whm1974

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    He should have sold the stuff as soon as possible. The ammo I could see keeping, but the other stuff....

    How do they enforce this? Most gun owners probley have well over 1000 rnds of ammo. And after this power outrage we just had here, I think quite a few people are stockpiling gas for thier generaters.

    -Bill
     
  24. Zen21Tao

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    As far as I know the only limitation is your bank account(s). I know quite a few people that, knowing how the great bulk buy deals could dry up at any time, horde all the mil-surp ammo they can.
     
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    he got it one piece at a time, and it didn't cost him a dime ...:D

    I wonder if anybody ever tried to steal a tank that way ...? ;)
     
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