Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by bushmaster1313, Oct 4, 2010.
Are any moderately priced Red Dot sights made in the USA?
Several guys I shoot with have them on AR and AK rifles, and mine survived the Uzi.
For under $100 it ain't bad. The real Aimpoint is superior in every way, except price, but price can be an important factor on a fun gun. BSW
Good value for the money and so far an excellent company.
I have the Strikefire and it does what they say. I have also owned Aimpoint ML2 and Aimpoint H1. It is not in the same league as the Aimpoint sights but IMHO it is MUCH better than the other lower priced offerings.
I have decided to use low power optics if I need something better than irons. Call me old school but I don't like batteries on a serious purpose gun.
To my knowledge there are NO other red dot sights made in the USA (the EOTech is also made in the USA but is not really a red dot sight, though it is almost the same from the user's perspective; it's also $400+).
I like the leupold or Nikon shotgun scopes for a low power optic for ranges out to about 200yds.
Oh, of course Trijicon makes the ACOG sights in the USA, which are among the nicest prism sights anywhere - with prices to match. I managed to scoop a closeout 1.5x ACOG for "only" $550 (and needing a separate $80 mount too). I like it, but you are definitely paying a lot. Eye relief is more flexible (but not longer) than most other telescopic sights, but not in the same league as the truly unlimited eye relief of a red dot or EOTech.
If you want something in a budget line, Vortex or Primary Arms are the only places I'd look. They are good, but more importantly, the two companies will stand behind their products if you ever have problems.
I at least ended up with Bushnell, an American name, and their pretty decent Trophy TRS-25 that Cabela's recently had on sale for $75 but it's made in China and rebadged like so many other things with recognizable American names.
The quest to find medium priced goods in a nation that pays premium worldwide wages means you can't get it. We won't pay ourselves what we're getting. That's why most of the affordable stuff comes from offshore where labor is 10% the cost it is here.
Either pony up what you are worth, or send more jobs overseas. It's not something we want to do yet.
To my knowledge NONE of the glass used in civilian riflescopes is made in the US; it all comes from asian factories, with the best glass coming from Japan. This is true even if you buy a Nightforce, US Optics, or other super-high-end scope. It's only a matter of design and assembly. Leupold does still assemble all their scopes in the US to my knowledge (I don't think that's still true of some of their other optical products, and notably with Redfield everything except the scopes is assembled overseas).
Pros: Cheap, light, button battery last longer that squirrel season (sept - feb), fits any gun with grooves (get the 22 version with narrower base), works fine over a 20 gage.
Cons: 4 mil dot is larger than the squirrel much past 40 yards, after shooting the shotgun barrel the dot will drift maybe an inch (enough to miss the squirrel).
They are what they are, a short range inexpensive hunting and plinking red dot. I like them.
"the slide is made of some sort of cast zinc alloy that has a history of cracking right after the one year warranty is up ... but it shoots really accurate and I like it!" and
"yes, the sights on the new pistol are not properly alighed, but we can sell you a propritary sight tool for $135 plus shipping to fix it"
Apparent to me, based upon recent personal experience, is a (disturbing) trend by all manufacturers to outsource quality control to the customer. They import the stuff from countries that are infamous for poor QC then simply ship it out the door to an unsuspecting public. Many times the poor customer doesn't even know that the product is out-of-spec, underperforming, misaligned, malformed, or just plain dangerous!
I urge everyone to take a personal stand against acceptance of out-of-specification or shoddy merchandise ... MAKE IMMEDIATE WARRANTY CLAIMS, SEND IT BACK and KEEP SENDING IT BACK UNTIL IT IS EITHER REPAIR of YOUR MONEY IS REFUNDED.
FURTHER: File written complaints on appropriate FORUMS, to The Federal Trade Commission and the BBB.
"Shoddy Merchandise is NO BARGAIN at any price"
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