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Any NAA Mini Revolver shootings?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by B yond, Aug 4, 2008.

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  1. B yond

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    I'm looking for any news articles, police reports, or true stories where a NAA Mini Revolver was used in a shooting. Can you guys help me out? I know they're out there but I'm having trouble finding more than a couple of them.
     
  2. bogie

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    Heck, I've been involved in a LOT of shootings with them...

    But all at targets.

    Now, son, I'd -really- appreciate it if you would quit using gun-grabber terminology. And if you want to do their research for them, fine. Just don't do it here.
     
  3. KelVarnson

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    Yes, there was a guy killed a few years ago in Buellton CA, by another guy using an NAA Mini. It was a road-rage incident. The shooter got 27 years, I think, although I'm not sure he deserved that long. I thought it seemed pretty close to a SD shooting, but I am sure a lot of details were left out in the news reports.

    I'm sure you can find it if you do a search.
     
  4. Neocode

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    Bogie, seems you are assuming WHY he wants the articles. Maybe he is trying to convince someone it is a worthy purchase, and wants to show how it was successfully used.

    Maybe he wants to show it's not a worthy purchase, and therefore wants to find articles where they were used, but didn't "do the job" of stopping the assailant.

    Data is data and facts are facts. How they are presented is what defines their purpose.
     
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  5. FCFC

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    Here's one. (I'm pretty sure it was a reported as a mini-revolver)

    Road Rager Shot/Killed Fourteen Year Old Bicyclist

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=381543

    The ole thought he was reaching for a gun so I shot him bit....



    Shooter got off the 1st murder charge but got tagged for 3rd degree.

    Actually some good shooting (or lucky). One shot, right to the kid's heart.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080802_Verdict_angers_bicyclist_s_kin.html
     
  6. fixyurgun

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    Contact North American Arms.The info they sent me before I bought mine, had details of two or three cases. Jim
     
  7. RyanM

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    There was a case awhile ago where some guy shot a police officer during a traffic stop with one. Went through the armhole in his bullet-resistant vest, got his heart. Officer returned fire, hit the guy 4 times with a .357 magnum and 145 gr Win Silvertips.

    Criminal lived, cop died.

    There are no magic bullets or calibers, only "magic" shot placements.
     
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    Probably couldn't afford OJ's defense team. :rolleyes:
     
  10. KelVarnson

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    I suspect you are right. I'm pretty sure he had a public defender.

    Not to derail the thread too much...

    As I recall the details (correct me please if I am wrong about any of this), the shooter was driving to a drug store and got into some kind of driving-related altercation. The two parties wound up in a parking lot, and the (apparent) agressor, who was supposedly drunk at the time, and had a history of road rage confrontations, got out and approached the shooter's car.

    The guy puched the shooter in the head once, and was winding up to hit him again, but ended up getting shot once in the neck with an NAA mini (they showed in on the news during the trial). Then the shooter drove off, probably his biggest mistake.

    The shooter had a Nevada permit, but not a CA one. Again, IIRC, the charges were enchanced by 25 years because the guy shot from within a motor vehicle, a statute that I believe was created in response to gang drive-bys, and a detail that all of us CA residents ought to be keenly aware of.

    Search on "Louis Calvin" and/or "Wayne Shaw".
     
  11. B yond

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    bogie wrote:
    bogie,

    First off, I'm not your son (I think :confused:).

    Second, there's absolutely nothing about me or my question that has anything to do with "gun-grabbers," and I find the implied connection insulting. :fire:

    The reason I'm interested in these shootings (please, oh please forgive the "gun-grabber terminology") is that I've recently purchased a NAA Mini, and as with all new SD weapons I like to research cases where they've been used so I can try to determine how they were or were not used most effectively. I just want cases where they've actually been used.

    I'm not anti-gun.
    I'm not pro-violence.
    I'm not planning on murdering anyone, doing any drive-bys, or robbing any liquor stores.
    I'm not planning on voting for people who want to take your guns away.
    I'm just a guy trying to figure out how to get the most out of a tiny BUG in the worst case scenario, so that I can protect myself, my family, and those around me.

    Please don't assume anything else, because when you assume... you know the rest.

    /rant off :eek:

    Oh, and thank you to all who've contributed something useful to this thread. :)
     
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    That's nuts. Five shots to the chest with a .357 magnum and the guy is still functional enough to return deadly fire. Still makes me laugh when people argue about "one shot stop" stats with handgun cartridges.
     
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    Well, B yond, you gotta admit your question smacked of the flavor of some of the "baiting" posts by anti-gunners we've seen lately.

    Seems they'll post a number of times to get out of the "low post" bracket, then throw in a looper.

    Don't know the solution to the problem.

    Not even absolutely sure it's a genuine problem.

    Just starting to look that way, to me, in general, not with specific reference to your post.
     
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    i heard a guy snuck one into a prison in his butt
     
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    I'll bite. Just what terminology was "gun-grabber terminology? I don't see terms in the query that are any different than any we use elsewhere on the board.

    How is the search for information anti-based as you claim?

    How about I reword the initial query to ask for the same information, but in a cooler manner?

    There, that should cover the issues of shots fired, misses, hits, and whatever resulted...because when you ask about "combat effectiveness" then everyone knows you are pro gun.

    b yond, since you claim to have only found a couple of incidents so far and are requesting more information, how about sharing those incidents with us with the proper citations like you would like us to provide? Also, have you even searched this forum for such data? They continually come up in the NAA mini threads to justify just how lethal they are.
     
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    When I was an EMT in Charleston, I remember a scene we rolled on where a guy running from a bar with his wife was being chased by a gang of bikers. He pointed an NAA mini and fired behind him and hit the ringleader dead center of the heart, (slightly left of the sternum). One shot drop with a .22 lr from a mini. They never said if they caught upto the guy. The gun was described by the rest of the gang as looking like a toy revolver. Respect all guns!
     
  18. FCFC

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    I don't see anything "baiting" or "gun-grabber"-ish about the OP:

    It is a flat request for information.

    But, honestly, if he is a Brady Buncher or a secret anti-mole then I am sorry to have provided him with one example of a mini-revolver incident. Maybe I should delete my Post # 5 so as not to aid the dark forces of Anti-ism.

    But first, I will have a piping hot cup of coffee from my favorite mug...

    [​IMG]

    Mmmmmmm. Fill it to the rim....
     
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    One Shot Stop...in a way

    I can't find an online copy but in one of the gun rags (probably combat handguns) a few issues ago in the "It happened to me" column an off duty LEO used one. He was walking in a park with his GF and a mugger got the drop on them. Stole his primary CCW, wallet and other personal effects but missed the NAA. I don't recall if it was .22 short or LR, but he drew and put a round in the mugger's forehead. The mugger put his hand to his head, saw the blood, and fainted, figuring he'd just been shot through the grape. What actually happened was the bullet pierced the skin and skidded along the circumference of his skull, exiting somewhere around back. He was apprehended of course.
    I wouldn't want to trust my life to one since even with good bullet placement it may not do the job, but it's better than being unarmed.
     
  20. Jolly Rogers

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    I first became impressed with the .22 WMR in 1969 when my cousin and I shot at a slab of oak, he with a Blackhawk in .357 and me with my Single Six with the magnum cylinder installed. We then split out the bullets and measured the penetration. My .22 penetrated about 1.5" further than the .357. Both guns had 6" barrels.
    Joe
     
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    The mini is a great pocket gun, I use to carry mine all the time. You can't even tell its there. Now I carry my LCP and love it, same thing, can't even feel it in my back pocket. Plus I feel better with a larger caliber, plus I can actually hit a target with the LCP. I couldn't hit anything past a few feet with the mini, but I'm keeping it anyways.

    DS
     
  22. B yond

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    Aside from the cop who was killed after firing several .357 rounds into the other guy (which has been mentioned several times already), I've found this little gem:

    Video at the following link shows that it was a mini revolver.

    http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa080214_lj_hawes.bfc57dff.html
     
  23. B yond

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    You caught me. I'm a deep-cover anti-gun mole for the Brady Campaign. I've been posting on this board impersonating a gun nut for two years just waiting for the right time to ask for some stories about people shooting each other with mini revolvers so I can prove to my fellow gun-grabbers just how evil guns truly are. All of this will accomplish... y'know in two years I've kinda forgotten what I was trying to accomplish. Rest assured though, you won't like it when I accomplish it.

    :rolleyes::evil:

    I'm pushing a bill that will outlaw tactical wheelbarrows too. :neener:
     
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    Ackchully, I was trying to comment on the fact that somebody else was also sensitive to posts which seem to invite stereotyped bloodthirsty responses which the antis could use.

    My post was poorly constructed.

    Sorry.
     
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