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Any runners on the forum? SD tools while running.

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by gossamer, Feb 5, 2013.

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  1. conw

    conw Member

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    (OP, sorry for thread drift... but I think the original topic is pretty well covered right?)

    You might be surprised what can be achieved with some tweaking. The Galco Underwraps is pretty darn good for anything short of sprints.

    Using a running style like pose running helps since you smooth out your gait a lot.

    If flopping was an issue I do know of one definite way to solve it. Grappling shorts are made with a very strong elastic band that secures two different ways with velcro, plus a draw-string.

    For example I have a brand of shorts called Fighting Sports, made for grappling. They would work fine for running - very cool, wicking, quick-dry material, and some spandex sections for mobility (along the sides). Also built very tough.

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    They really help concealment as well as retention using a belly-band. If you really wanted to make concealment work, I can almost guarantee that a belly band plus grappling shorts would work for running. But you can't know if you don't try!
     
  2. Stress_Test

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    Interesting idea about the shorts.


    One side thing I thought of and wanted to mention; we've been saying that when running you're not likely to be a mugger target because you're not likely carrying anything valuable,

    BUT

    the other danger is that you could be targeted by a group of punks who are bored with nothing better to do, and decide it would be "fun" to assault you. I live close to a high school and this can be a problem from a car full of teenagers. I've been harassed a couple of times but fortunately it didn't go beyond that.

    (and remember teenagers are young and can be fit too, and they may be able to catch you!)
     
  3. Matno

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    Since you asked about SD and not firearms specifically, I've got a pepper sprayer that is about the size and weight of a good-size pen. With a horizontal carrier/holster, it's easily as comfortable as my iPod nano...
     
  4. leadcounsel

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    Yep, there is a game punks and gangs play, and that is to beat up or even kill a random person. An unarmed runner may pose as a nice challenge...
     
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    If pressed, I can outrun just about any punk you can throw at me. A group of them? Easier to outsmart than outrun. If one worries bout gangs, he should always run in commercial areas where there are many people around.

    Dogs are another story.
     
  6. hso

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    A buddy of mine though the same. While stopped waiting for traffic to clear he was attacked and stabbed in the arm by a guy that came off a stoop. No other reason than being on "his" corner and not from "there". Long odds on that happening, but not vanishingly so.

    I do think that most runners can run away from most trouble, BUT that doesn't mean that anyone should assume that they're not a target just because they don't have anything of value showing. Remember that someone in a sketchy neighborhood doesn't know you don't have a credit card and phone and a few bucks for rehydration out of sight in your shorts OR that you obviously not being from the neighborhood aren't a target to mess with (especially in you've set yourself apart by running/biking).
     
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    Hard to run away when someone hits you in the knee with a 2x4.
    All self defense situations are long shots and probably wont happen to you or me. But they happen all the time to some buddy.
     
  8. Shadow 7D

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    Kel Tec P32, it doesn't get much smaller than that
     
  9. jaguarxk120

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    What about a walking stick made from a old golf club. Use a driver with a carbon fiber shaft and remove the head. I have on that weighs just 4.9 oz. with the grip. It is my understanding that the carbon fiber shafts are unbreakable. But the main thing it gives you distance from a attacker.
     
  10. hso

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    incorrect, but it doesn't have to last long.
     
  11. jaguarxk120

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    I was thinking of the golf club shaft as a thrusting weapon rather than a striking one.
     
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    How about a Surefire E2D LED Defender? 3.7 ounces, 200 lumens, and has a strike bezel. Shine an attacker in the eyes, strike them in the face, and run off. Shouldn't have to worry about any weapons laws applying, since it's a light. I know it's expensive, but Surefires are very well made.
    http://www.surefire.com/illumination/flashlights/e2dl.html
     
  13. JShirley

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    Strike bezels are gimmicks. Any good 2-cell tac light is fine.
     
  14. lpsharp88

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    Gimmick or not, I can't think of too many people that would welcome getting hit by one
     
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    The point is, that any similarly sized light is fine, crennelated bezel or not. :)

    John
     
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    Negative. I have used mine to great effect. A little bit of force is good for getting someone's attention. Lots of force makes it better than a club. I have a Novatac SPL-120 and I have had to get blood out of the bezel once or twice.
     
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    Again, the point being that any standard bezel delivers an effective strike. The "strike bezel" is tailored for the folks who didn't understand small flashlights already made an effective impact tool.
     
  18. The Highlander

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    Perhaps a waved Spyderco in a speeddialer kydex sheath? Delica is smaller though the Matriarch 2 and Endura in FRN are pretty solid self-defense options. I've carried my ghetto-waved Tasman salt almost every time I've gone running and it never prints/gets in the way. Most of my running shorts come sans pockets so I just keep it in the waistband. Any brand will work fine, but I've found the lightweight FRN knives are thinner/lighter than most other options. If you're in a state that allows it, perhaps an Izula or something similar in a neck sheath. A small Kabar TDI in your waistband might work as well if you wear a baggier shirt.
     
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