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any tips, advice on finding Holster and Red Dot Sight?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Accessories, Holsters, and Optics' started by ykang213, May 6, 2020.

  1. ykang213

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    i'm totally new to guns but i think my first one was a good choice. renting it and shooting it helped too

    Walther PPQ Q4 Tac - couple mags, reloader, etc.

    got my bag, ordered my ear muffs, ordered my safety glasses, and ammo


    when searching for Holsters...there's soooo many options! i would love something custom but they can get out of my range $100+.


    for a novice, esp. being a lefty, i am leaning towards one with a Thumb Break


    any advice on a decent Holster under $100 and RDS, nothing fancy, would like something subtle


    thanks for any help...appreciate it
     
  2. JTQ

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    This is a common desire for many new to carrying a gun holstered. I think most folks new to holsters think the gun is held in a holster without a thumb break by gravity only, that is not the case. If you plan on using the holster for open carry or for hiking, a retention device is a pretty good idea. For the concealed carrier, very few use a holster with an active retention device because they really aren't needed.

    High Noon holsters has their comment on thumb breaks at #25 in their FAQ section that may be helpful https://www.highnoonholsters.com/faqs

    You didn't say whether you want an Inside the Waistband (IWB) or Outside the Waistband (OWB) and whether you simply want a range/competition/training holster or a concealment holster, but I'll assume OWB and concealment.

    After all that, I looked up the Walther PPQ Q4 Tac ( https://waltherarms.com/ppq-q4-tac-2/ ) and realized the uncommon PPQ is more uncommon with the threaded barrel. Poof - all (maybe not all) of my normal recommendations have disappeared.

    While clearly not in your price range, the Andrews Hybrid Saddle Style gives you the thumb break, and should give clearance for your optic.

    http://www.andrewsleather.com/hyb_saddle.htm

    Kydex is typically the choice of polymer gun users and would generally be less expensive than leather, but are not usually offered with thumb breaks, though there are some. I'll keep looking and if you could define your needs (IWB/OWB/Concealment/etc.,) a little better, I'll see what I can find.
     
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    I also have a Walther Q4 with a mounted optic. I got a Holosun 507C that has been on it since about February. Still getting used to the sighting difference. I use a few different White Hat holsters to carry it IWB and OWB. As long as the holster design uses an open muzzle/open bottom (most do) then the added threaded barrel length is a non issue. Before getting the holster pictured below, I carried my Q4 in a holster made for a P99 with no issue.

    One issue you will run into is finding a thumb break holster that will fit an optic. There is just enough variation in optic shape that straps would have to be cut differently for each model to work around the optic.

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    thanks for the help guys

    been travelling to TX, OK, KS and back home to CO...will look into this more once my Sight arrives from UK

    i figure buy the holster later depending on whether i wanna keep the RDS
     
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    You'll need to specify what you'll be doing with this holster, what type you think you might like and probably what body type you have. Those things will make huge differences in holster selection.

    I would wait on the RDS till you've had some good training and a good bit of practice time with irons.
     
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    i am going to wait on the holster because after going to the range a few times, and seeing RDS in person, i opted for the Shield Sights RDS.

    its pretty pricey at $500+ but if its going to help, i'm all for it

    my body type is a bit larger than my BMI (5-10pds). i would want a OWB holster and leaning towards carrying the Walther .22 i purchased recently since it has a safety which for a new person carrying, i think it will be better than 9mm for now
     
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    love your Holster!...will keep that in mind about the Thumb break since i want the Shield Sights RDS

    question about the flashlight...do any of them have strobe light feature?
     
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    Just keep in mind that RDS, while cool and all the rage right now, do not (IMO) replace competency in the fundamentals, which includes sight alignment ( with irons). I would strongly recommend against a RDS for carry gun for a new shooter.

    I'm not familiar with the "pds" acronym. What does that mean?

    Pistols with safety's can be a very hazardous thing for people who are new to carrying firearms, for the simple reason that it's another thing that they must remember to do. You'll need to devote additional practice time to building the habit of using that safety religiously.
     
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    The light I posted above is the TLR-8G and I have replaced it with the TLR-7A. Both have a strobe function.
     
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    pds = Pounds...BMO = body mass index...i hover around 5-10 over "Optimal" weight for my height and age
     
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    my thinking in carrying the .22 with a safety is it is ONE more safeguard for a newbie like myself
     
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    sweet...may look into a flashlight attachment since it has strobe
     
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    https://www.abbreviations.com/abbreviation/Pounds ;)

    It can be, as long as you can always, without fail, remember to flick it on at the right times, flick it off at the right times, and perhaps more importantly, instantly diagnose and remedy, under high stress, if it has be inadvertently turned on or off. As a CHL instructor and attendee of hundreds of hours of firearms and tactics training classes, I've seen many newer shooters struggle with those challenges.

    Just curious, why do you want a strobe feature?
     
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    home defense

    i will keep that in mind...thx, i agree that under a high stress situation, some can react faster than others
     
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    I was gonna write a longer post, but you should probably do your own research and training on this subject. Lots of good info out there. Basically, weapon lights should not have a strobe feature.

    True, but that wasn't really my point. I was talking about habit development. It takes a lot of repetitions to make something like safety manipulation a breathing level habit.
     
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