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anybody regret getting an M1A

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by roval, May 5, 2014.

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  1. roval

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    Been thinking of getting a 308 and there's a Springfield M1a loaded with a stainless barrel that is catching my eye. Anybody buy an M1a and regret it?

    A bolt action would be easier to clean and might be more accurate but would necessitate a scope purchase at the same time. shooting with iron sights sounds fun but not sure how well I'd do with my glasses.
     
  2. dprice3844444

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    look at the colt le901 308/223
     
  3. Malamute

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    I bought one in the 80's. It was a decent gun, but heavy and bulky for carrying around in the hills. I think I shot it maybe 2 or 3 times, and sold it after about 3 weeks.
     
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    Not so much that I regretted it, as much as, I realized it would become a serious project to make it what I wanted it to be.

    With the elevated scope mount, I had to lean way over into it to shoot it, I got dinged over my eye. To match my eye to it, would have required a stock replacement, and probably a serious trigger replacement, to start with. Also, with the scope mount, it cut down into the sight picture for the open sights, making it equally unusable that way. I would have had to do one or the other.
     
  5. Kp321

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    I have owned FAL's and HK 91's and sold them after a while. I have owned an M1-A since 1980 and will never sell it! Very accurate and just feels right.
     
  6. Jackal

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    The M1A is a great fighting rifle, but much to the dismay of many buyers, a basic/stock rifle is not much more accurate than a decent AK. I have personally been looking into the .308 semi "game" and after owning a Fal, M1A basic, M1A Scout (best of the M1A's in my opinion) and an FNAR, I think I have decided to grab a PTR91. For about $400-$600 cheaper than a M1A, its a very good deal, especially when one considers the $5 magazines, easy purpose built optics mounting and the general 1.5-2moa accuracy.
     
  7. LeonCarr

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    I regret not having the money to get an M1A :).

    Just my .02,
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  8. happygeek

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    *raises hand*

    It was the first rifle I ever bought, luckily the 2nd rifle I bought was a CMMG 22LR upper on a RRA lower. 22LR is about the only reason I'm still into guns at all. I quickly realized how God awful expensive 7.62x51/.308 was to shoot often.

    To add to the regret factor of the purchase I made the newbie mistake of buying it off post, which means I paid a 9.3% markup on a $2,000 M1A National Match. The NM is the other dumb part of the purchase, I'm not a NM shooter and didn't know the difference between a standard M1A and a NM at the time, I had just wanted a M1A.

    Don't get me wrong I still think it's a nice rifle, it's far more accurate than I am or probably ever will be, it's nice looking, and I'm into old school guns (which is mostly why I wanted a M1A in the first place). But if I had it to do over again I definitely wouldn't have bought a M1A at all, just the M1 Garand I picked up later.
     
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    The factory original stock is great for the iron sights. But, if you plan to mount some form of optic, you will need/benefit from an adjustable stock. I have both the Loaded model, and a SOCOM. Great rifles.

    Geno
     
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    I have an m1a std, and can compare it against multiple 308 semis I have been around. I dont know how you could regret it. I like the std. because its lighter. Its a go-to gun for sure.
     
  11. Welding Rod

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    I bought two that I regretted and two that I liked for the most part.

    I think the platform is fantastic. However I think SAI QC is crap. If you get a gun that happens to be a good specimen, they are pretty awesome. And in the case of my two better ones, quite accurate.

    I have owned a SOCOM 16, Standard, Loaded, and Super Match. My favorite variant by far is the Standard, with the Loaded coming up second. The SOCOM was grossly inaccurate, the SM was just a sloppy POS.

    My Standard came out of the box with major runs in the stock finish and a bent front sight ear, but it is a shooter... Great trigger and accurate. Great ergo sand balance. Ruins brass though through pretty serious stretching. May be an oversized chamber as the other three M1As didn't do this.

    Understand though, at least IMO, these are iron sight guns and are not suitable for optics.
     
  12. roval

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    Hmmm... more pondering to do...regarding quality control the gun I was looking at had steel filings in the cuts milled into the barrel where the sight and flash suppressors attach. It's got me thinking what the rifling cuts would look Iike.
     
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    Ditto. M1A has been on my wish list for a long time, but has yet to make it to the top of the list. I love the platform and think they look awesome, but I dont reload and cant afford to shoot very much at $1/round.
     
  14. up 2 snuff

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    A good 308 bolt action with a properly set up scope is a wonderful thing. An M1A is a really nice weapon. I wished I had your problem. It is a good one to have.

    If I didn't have either one of these rifles I would go with the bolt gun first. I enjoy shooting accuracy and like to hunt so it works for me.

    You can't make a bad decision. Get both if you can.
     
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    I'd buy one but not from SAI. Too bad LBR's are 2500+ :(
     
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    Because of the expense, I waited a lot of years to buy an M1A and finally ended up getting a Loaded model. Have I regretted it? Never, not even for a second. The rifle was designed to be used with iron sights and comes with some of the best iron sights out there. It'll hit targets accurately out to several hundred yards just as it is. If you want to put a scope on it and make it a target rifle then be prepared to spend a lot of money and time, or just buy a nice .308 bolt rifle with a good scope and be done with it.
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    I have a preban and a Polytech. Both are shooters and alot of fun. IMO the M1A is the last of the great wood and steel age of battle rifles. I have a LWRC REPR and have had an Armalite AR10 both reliable and acurate but the M1A is a rifle man,s rifle and a classic.;)
     
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    My neighbor bought a SOCOM. I shot it a few rounds. Very heavy for what it is. Kinda reminds me of classic cars. There's a reason that buyers went to something newer/better..

    When I can load the exact same ammo into a precision bolt rifle and shoot groups 1/10th the size, I've lost interest. But hey, it's your dime. Do what makes you happy, not a bunch of strangers on the interweb

    If I were fighting hoards of Germans at Normandy my views would be diffferent
     
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    A friend of mine bought one two summers ago. It was the basic model. I was with him the first time he shot it at the range. It jammed constantly. Some of those jams were severe. But as the week end progressed it slowly showed some improvement. I suggested he load up several magazines and run some rapid fire shooting to loosen it up. That worked. Since then, to my knowledge' it has worked flawlessly. I think it was tight tolerances that caused the jamming and it took some time for it to break in.

    'loose
     
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    I bought one of the very first M1A's (serial number under 1,000, made in Devine, Texas) new in the early 1970's. To say that I don't regret buying it would be an understatement. (It has a National Match stock, National Match sights, Brookfield Precision scope mount, etc. Value-wise, it must be up in the thousands. But I don't plan to sell it.)
     
  21. roval

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    I'd want any rifle I'd own to be more accurate than me. I thought the loaded was capable of sub moa even without the bedding.. I like the feel of the rifle with iron sights and it seems a good gun to learn to use a sling properly. I guess ill keep thinking about it for now.
     
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    I've had my M1A since the early 90s and will likely never regret it. However, the fact that I like mine or other members like or dislike theirs means very little. I also have my AR 10 and a bolt gun in 308. Would be nice to get your hands on one and try the rifle out to see if an M1A is for you. Ultimately it would be your gun.

    My M1A is a NM and does sub MOA and does shoot better than I do anymore. :)

    Ron
     
  23. Arizona_Mike

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    Nope, Mine is quieter suppressed than my 7.62 AR. Also easy to totally close the gas port.

    Mike
     
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    Nope.

    But then I'm invested in M1 Garands as well.
     
  25. BruceB

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    Two very early M1A rifles gave me my first experience with the type. They were bought in 1980, and both were sold when I was offered "too much money" for them.

    My current M1A is a "loaded" model , bought new in 2005. It has now fired more than SEVEN THOUSAND ROUNDS and performs flawlessly. No problem of any kind has ever occurred with this rifle. I have a spare extractor in the butt trap, but it appears unlikely that I'll need it. My M1A has never seen a factory-loaded cartridge.

    7,000 rounds.... about eight hundred of that that number were jacketed bullets, mostly Sierra 168 Matchkings. The rifle has delivered those Matchkings into groups as small as one inch for five rounds at 100 yards....with the issue iron sights and 65-year-old eyes.

    The remainder of the 7,000 rounds were cast bullets.....over six thousand of them. Not only does the rifle function normally with correct cast loads, but accuracy results are also excellent. The smallest group I fired at 50 yards, iron sights, was 0.60" for TEN rounds. Also, it delivered five consecutive hits(with witnesses) on a 16"x 24" steel plate at 417 yards, iron sights, sitting position with no sling.... with cast bullets.

    Incidentally, cast-bullet loads create far less bore wear that jacketed bullets, as they operate at lower pressure, temperature and velocity. To be sure, one can certainly get the barrel far too hot to touch, but it takes more shooting to do so than with the jacketed loads.

    This M1A rifle is the subject of the 13-page thread at Cast Boolits, stickied in the "CB Loads/Military Rifles" forum. There have been over 70,000 "views" of that thread to date, and many folks have duplicated my excellent results with their own rifles .

    The rifle works perfectly with cast bullets, with NO lead fouling in bore or gas system. Couple this fact with its performance with Matchkings, and.... regret it? HAH!

    It would likely be the LAST rifle I'll ever part with, and that covers a very wide field....
     
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