Anybody shoot .350 Remington Magnum?

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  1. Ugly Sauce

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    My rifle started out as a 6.5RM, but the previous owner had ER Shaw re-barrel it to .350. That's a good thing, although there is nothing wrong with a 6.5, and I especially like the old ones, like the 6.5 Swede, the Arisaka, and the Carcono. But I never would have traded for it had it been in 6.5RM.
     
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  2. Ugly Sauce

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    My 77 is very light, not as light as a 600, but I think she's just a hair over seven pounds which to me is a very light rifle. My barrel is 20", I'd not go shorter than that on a .350.

    For me, I think the holy grail of .350RM rifles would be a Ruger #1 with a 22" barrel. I think the rifle would still be shorter than a bolt-action with a 20" barrel, possibly even the 18" barrel, or perhaps equal length compared to a 18" bolt action. ?
     
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    Imagine that #1 with a 20" tube and a suppressor. In stainless.
     
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    With the LA you adjust the feed lips and use the heavy bullets seated out to length. The 600 is very short it does not do well with the long bullets. Same story with the 6.5 and the 350. I personally do not have a big need for the 250g but you really need the LA to use them with the 350. It is a matter of setting up the rifle. I use 225s with the Mauser.
     
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  5. Hesa Hard1

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    Yeah, in my 600 I'd probably max out with the 220/225grn bullets, as far as handloads.

    I do have a small stash of Remington factory 250gn .350RM ammo and it shoots fine in my carbine. But I'll save it for the day I get a bear tag somewhere.

    Around my A/O, the 200gn load is GTG for the terrain and distances where you'd hunt with an iron-sighted carbine.
     
  6. Ugly Sauce

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    I don't think one could go wrong with any of the bullets in a .350 from 200 to 250. Something under 200 grains wouldn't make a lot of sense to me, except loaded down for deer at close range, and I believe a 250 grain will/would kill anything. I've got some of those old Barnes 300 grainers loaded up, but likely will only ever use them in my dreams. Like when some rich and famous person calls me up and wants me to go on an Alaskan brown-bear hunt as the back-up man. Okay...yeah right.
     
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  7. Chuck R.

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    The only "concern" I'd have with the Ruger #1 would be the lack of a quick follow up shot.

    Normally not a concern, but to me at least the .350 Rem is a woods/timber cartridge that stretches the range of typical woods cartridges. In that vein is the potential for jumped/running game.

    Also, as you pointed out, the action length is shorter than a bolt gun, so no real advantage to using a short cartridge.
     
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  8. Ugly Sauce

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    That would be true, a #1 might be better served in .35 Whelen, as there is also no advantage for/with the belt/belted cartridge case.

    The follow up shot is a good point, but since I hunt with muzzle loaders or single shot cartridge rifles (Trapdoor Springfield) that's not a concern for me personally. However, using the gun as a back-up rifle, which is where a .350 would shine, having quick repeat shots would not be a bad thing. !!! I imagine that a big wounded and angry Alaskan Grizz could soak up more than a couple Barnes copper-tube jacketed 300 grainers before it gave up the fight. !
     
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  9. natman

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    The 35 Whelen is based on the 30-06 case and requires a long action. The 350 Rem Mag uses a case of 308 length and magnum diameter and is intended to fit in a short action.The whole idea is to get 35 Whelen ballistics in a compact short action rifle.

    You could put a 350 RM in a long action, but there's no real point to it. If you're going to use a long action, you might as well use 35 Whelen and get extra magazine capacity or 358 Norma Mag and get more power.
     
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  10. Chuck R.

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    Agreed.. sometimes I like to go back to the original ad to remind myself why it came about in the 1st place:

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    "6.5lbs of bolt action fury"!
    It also makes me want to break out a plaid jacket! Really not a fan of the Scout scope mounting though.
     
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  11. Hesa Hard1

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    Yep, I agree.

    The Whelen was once called simply the '.35-06.' Same case, fatter bullet. Back in the day, for the rather low cost of rebarreling an '06 rifle he already owned, a guy could step up to the 'Poor Man's Magnum,' and kill the same critters as the affluent hunter did with his pricey custom .375 H&H.

    Just FYI, but one .35 Whelen exception out there, in terms of a platform that handles like a 'compact carbine,' is the Mini-G in that chambering from Shuff's Parkerizing. It's a 'chopped' (16.1") Garand that's the same length as the little M1 .30 Carbine. Shuff also builds them in .308 and 30-06.

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    Apparently the .35 Whelen chambering is popular with his Alaskan customers. A variety of mods go into these Mini-Gs builds, the main one being a Schuster Mfg. adjustable gas plug to protect the gas system and op rod by controlling cycling speed. The plug let's you tune the gun to the energy level of the particular ammo you want to shoot, including hot 'hunting' ammo.

    For the .35W Mini-Gs, Shuff installs a 'Holbrook device' to prevent premature ejection of the clip. He also modifies the internal geometry of the receiver where the clip fits to allow for reliable feeding of a full 8-rd clip of those fat, heavy 35-diameter bullets.
     
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  12. Hesa Hard1

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    You might be surprised how significantly a properly fitted Kick-Ezze recoil pad will mitigate that Magnum 'bolt-action fury.'

    Trust me. :thumbup:
     
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  13. Chuck R.

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    Actually, I think they're referring to the muzzle end...

    My Mannlicher M7 with mag profile barrel, scope etc. comes in at just under 8lbs all up. I don't find the recoil with 225s and 200s that bad at all and I'm loading to 2730 and 2830 respectively. I do have a 250 load that's just under 2500 that with the scope removed (rifle weight 6.5lbs) lets you know it's there, and isn't something I like to shoot from a bench for groups, but even that's doable.
     
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    This thread was just enough of a motivator for me to finally break down the 673 and thread if for a can. Been meaning to do it for some time.

    I didn't want to lose the vent rib & front sight, nor do I really have the time or inclination to make a new custom sight base to relocate it, so instead I decided to do an internal thread with a male-male adapter, .540-24 on the back and normal 5/8-24 on the front end. From there, it wears one of my Gyrex taper mount brakes with my Accipiter .375 model in 9" trim. Much more pleasant to shoot, not just from a noise standpoint, but the significant recoil reduction you get with a good can.

    The tall sights on the 673 easily clear the 1.6" can diameter.

    Been years since I fired this, but it'll see a lot more use now. Gotta find me more brass.....

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  15. Ugly Sauce

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    You make cans?
     
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    Too bad I didn't have one back in the 70's or I might have kept my 600.
     
  17. DM~

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    Many years ago, I had a couple different 350 Rem. mags, I really dis-liked the short little Remington carbine, but I did like the Ruger 77. The problem was, I was hunting brown bear, and the 350 wasn't performing to my liking on moose, let along using it on dangerous game.

    So, I had P.O.Ackley rebore a Ruger 77 in 30-06 to .338-06 and that was a big step up for me on the biggest big game! Bullet performance was MUCH improved and I never looked back!

    I then had a Remington 700 re-barreled with a Douglas premium bbl, and a stock made that FIT me, and it's become a lifelong friend! I've taken brown bear, moose, caribou, deer and much more with it, and I had, and still have, full confidence in it following up a wounded bear in the alders, which I did more than once for friends.

    Anyway, of course there are better 35 caliber bullets today...

    DM
     
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    Yep, lots of them! I'm better known for mount conversions and recoring existing stuff, but we have a pretty extensive lineup, just not tremendous production capacity. I did have quite a few on hand, but our black Friday sale has depleted inventory pretty good.

    Our site is linked in my sig, but signatures don't seem to show up on mobile, at least not for me, so:

    www.eccomachine.net

    Much.

    I use the 200 gr. Core lokts as cheap fodder for range time, but my hunting load is 225 gr. Accubonds
     
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  19. Ugly Sauce

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    Okay, yeah I figured it out. Looks like you have a good thing going. I've been wanting a can for my .22 Hornet, that I could also use on a .22LR Little Badger. From what I saw, looks like your line-up is mostly for more high pressure rounds? Or do you build cans for specific applications/low powered cartridges like that, or? I know very little about cans.

    350 Content: anything I'd hunt with my .350 would not require a premium bullet, but again, I have a box of the old 300 grain Barnes copper-tube jacketed bullets if I ever took her out for a more serious hunt, or chasing bears around in the bush. !
     
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    The Ocelot standard is our .22 hornet and 5.7x28 rated rimfire can, a 1" x 5.5" critter. I'm out of them right now, though, only have the smaller .75 x 5" Salamanders that I rate for .17 HMR and .22 WMR, but not Hornet.

    Caracal is actually the model I developed specifically for small .224 centerfires, but it's a welded tubeless can, so you wouldn't want to use it with .22 LR.

    We have 18 models from 1x3" rimfire cans to big-ish Accipter at 1.6x10"+, and also do custom stuff like large 1.73 x 12"+ rifle cans for .375 Chey Tac, etc. I don't have a .50 BMG model yet, though. Neither my big manual lathe or my current CNC can take bar over 2" diameter through the spindle, so making a 2.25" or 2.5" diameter things is a major hassle with a lot of wasted material in short drops.
     
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  21. Chuck R.

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    How the heck do you get these to work?

    I've read on various forums that the Nosler ABs won't work in the .350 utilizing the 2.8" mag box, the ogive will be below the case mouth due to the length. I even contacted Nolser techs after I couldn't find them listed in their load data and they also replied that they won't work in the 600-660-673-M7.

    I'd love to use these as it is I'm using: Nosler 225, Sierra 225 GKs, Horn 200 Interlocks. IF I can ever find some I'll try the Barnes 200 and 225 TSX FBs.
     
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    The ogive is slightly into the neck, but plenty of shank to hold. Have to stay off max loads a little, though.

    These are at 2.83" OAL, just barely squeeze into the mag

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  23. Rock185

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    DR505, I have a .350, but admit that in my dotage, I don't shoot it much. Recoil that was just interesting when I was younger, is a bit much now.
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  24. Chuck R.

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    Very cool!

    So the 180s being slightly shorter should allow a little more room for powder.

    THANKS for the pic!!!
     
  25. DR505

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    You may be able load them in the chamber at a slightly longer length than the magazine will accommodate, but your follow up shots from the mag will need to be different.
     
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