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Anyone buy a .327 magnum yet? Thoughts?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by gunnutery, Apr 6, 2010.

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  1. gunnutery

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    I've been curious if anyone has bothered to buy anything chambering a .327 federal magnum yet. I personally don't really want one (although if one was given to me I wouldn't complain). I know one of the reasons for its development was similar ballistics to a .357 mag with reduced recoil. I'm sure there are some out there that hate recoil, but I never thought the .357 mag was all that bad.

    For those of you that have the new chambering, what do you think? Does it live up to the hype? Does it hurt the wallet? Can you even find ammo on the shelf?
     
  2. Mr.Revolverguy

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    I purchased a Ruger SP 101 in .327 mag and purchased Hornady 60-gr. XTP-HP ..I also have a .357 mag in the SP101 and I must say I still prefer the 357 over the 327..The .357 is one of the most popular revolver rounds ever made if not the most popular.The ammo is everywhere for the .357 except for Toys R Us..LOL..I just have too many revolvers chambered in .357 mag so I may be bias ..My Colt Python and Dan Wesson refuse to live in the same firearms safe as the little SP 101 in .327 so I will sell it most likely...

    Look here for a short answer : No I do NOT think its a better or equal caliber and no ammo is not as readily available..Also I am finding the .327 ammo more expensive when I do find it..
     
  4. MMCSRET

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    I bought one last year simply because 32 is my favorite revolver caliber. I own Colts, S&W, Charter Arms and Taurus 32 Caliber revolvers that date from 1907 to 2009. I like them all because they are 32 caliber. I cast my bullets and load my own ammunition and the 327 Magnum is a welcome addition to the family. I like'm all!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. Just One Shot

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    I wouldn't mind having one for the novelty of it but I can't remember ever seeing ammo in any of the stores I've visited.
     
  6. 340PD

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    A friend at the range just bought one and loves it. I think he shoots four different variations of .32 out of it. He has had it for four weeks and it is the only gun he now takes out of his range bag.
     
  7. SwordRapier

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    I own one, I enjoy shooting it. I have it for ccw.

    The panic buying of ammo is slowing down that should free manufacturing up for building something other the .40 .45 and 9mm so ammunition of all types should become more available. It's not that the .327 ammo can't be found it just takes a little more work.
     
  8. mesinge2

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    I am unfamiliar with .32 caliber rounds, other than the pistol variations (.32 ACP, .32 NAA, etc); I am assuming it is like my .460 being able to chamber 454 and 45 colt. What are the 4 calibers capable of being fired out of the 327 Magnum?
     
  9. ArmedBear

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    Not sure about 4, but .32 H&R Magnum and .32 S&W Long can be, in addition to .327 Federal. Maybe .32 S&W Short?

    So, next time you find a sale on .32 S&W Long at the local Sportsman's Mega Emporium, you can pick up a few thousand rounds...

    I mean, seriously, the whole, "I'll buy this gun because it will also shoot 8mm Bolivian Largo, too!" thing is silly, with the exception of a few calibers like .357 and .460, because .38 Special, .454 Casull and .45 Colt are active cartridges, not fossils. Still, with any "magnum" it's been my experience that POI changes so much with different rounds, that I just don't care what else it shoots, once my sights are dialed in (not as much of an issue with snubbies).

    If I bought a .327, it would be to shoot .327. I haven't bought one, yet. I'd buy a lightweight Centennial in .327, but when it came down to writing the check, I'd probably err on the side of compatibility and stick with .38/.357 to match a good few guns (and die sets) I already own.:)
     
  10. stonewall308

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    Honestly, unless you are an abnormally small person, I can't understand people complaining about recoil. I have no problem with .357 recoil, or .3006 for that matter. Shooting a firearm shouldn't feel like a massage. If you want to plink, get a .22. If you need a gun that causes serious tissue damage, don't worry about the recoil; when the shtf, you won't feel it anyway.

    The only time I have worried about recoil is in choosing a gun for my wife.
     
  11. W.E.G.

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    I think its one of those calibers for shooters who want something different.

    One down-side of this caliber, is it won't fit in short frames like the Single-Six.
    Y'all DO KNOW the .32 H&R Mag was built on the Single-Six frame?

    I guess this is a J-Frame that S&W is building the 632 on.

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    I'm sure both of these guns are very good shooters, but they don't please my eye. Probably the rubber grips. I respect the PRACTICAL aspect of those grips. As ugly as they are, they make recoil on my .357 Model 60 quite tolerable.

    I'm just a traditionalist I guess.
    Love the checkered coco bolo wood on a Smith and Wesson.
    I think I'd have to have one if S&W would offer a 6-shot model in a non-geeked K-frame.
    I don't need (let alone want) a .32 revolver that looks like an Alien Star Cruiser.

    I think the Ruger SP101 is the gun that comes closest to getting it right for this caliber.
    Compact, clean lines, discreetly-adjustable rear sight, and at a fantastic price.

    The full under-lug seems a bit much, but is only a minor issue.

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    Ruger will sell you a full-blown Blackhawk in this caliber too.
    8-shots.
    That doesn't ring my chime at all.
    Probably won't sell many, so it will become a "rarity" for the true Ruger-o-phile collectors.

    The sleeper that nobody seems to mention is the Charter Arms "Patriot."
    I like the looks of the four-inch model a lot.
    The billboard on the barrel is louder than I care for, and the focus in the advertising on the included-gimmick-knife really detracts from the gun. I mean, what am I supposed to do with some cheap BUT-WAIT!... THERE'S MORE!!! knife. Clearly, I'm failing to appreciate something.

    So, throw the knife in the bottom of the junk drawer, because I can promise you there will be no win-the-lottery collector's market for an N.I.B.-with-accessories Patriot ten presidents from now. I'm looking forward to handling one. If fit-and-finish is good, the Patriot might be a close contender for "best .327 shooter." Again, the grips are an issue for me, because most rubber grips turn me off. At least I know I can get REALLY GOOD wood grips for the Ruger and the S&W's if I want to write large checks. Not so sure about the availability of good wood for Charter guns. Might be a bit weird to put that sort of investment toward a gun that doesn't usually attract folks with Obsessive Acquisition Syndrome, and thick wallets.

    I'm still willing to give the Patriot a chance to prove itself.

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    I believe Taurus is making some plain-jane snub-nose guns in this caliber.
    Well, OK.
    If you want to shoot hard-to-obtain .32 caliber supersonic ammo in a carry piece, maybe the Taurus is the way to go. Maybe the .327 Federal Magnum ammo is not as "blasty" as .357 magnum ammo. But, if I had to crank off five rounds of ammo, in a hallway, from a snubnose revolver, I'd choose a subsonic 158-grain .38 Special over anything supersonic. Frankly, I don't foresee Taurus selling many of those guns. They offer nothing unique in terms of style.

    As for the ammo-interchangeability issue, I don't think its that anybody thinks people are going to dig up old boxes of .32 Long, or any of the other calibers the .327 will accommodate. Rather, a lot of reloaders already have dies that will work with the .327. So, that is attractive to folks who want to roll their own on the cheap. That is, IF they could find any jacketed bullets. Try to find some. I dare you. Anybody reloading .32-anything these days are going to reload PLAIN LEAD bullets, or they won't be shooting.
    Hopefully, the aint-no-jacketed-.32-bullets-nowhere situation will improve soon.

    The .32... whether magnum or .32 short is one of those rounds you can DOWN-LOAD to the point of being unbelievable. It is kinda neat to get pellet-gun sounds out of a "real gun." Why?... you say. Oh, I don't know. I like to play with sparklers too... and I'm not sure why.

    I guess if I were downloading WAY DOWN, I might want to use one of the short cases, rather than full-length .327 Magnum brass. Of course, that gets us into the deep realm of hobby shooting, and far-far away from whatever Smith and Wesson had in mind when they conceived the uber-concealed-carry styling of those four-figure-price-tag model 632's.

    I have a 32-20 (which is NOT one of the interchangeable calibers), a couple .32 S&W's (".32 short"), and a .32 H&R Magnum.

    I still need to get a true .32 long. Only interested in old ones. I'll find a clean one that isn't at a you-have-got-to-be-kidding price one day, and I'm sure I'll have to buy it.

    I'm not sure about the .327 yet. They are still making the SP101's. So, I don't feel in a particular hurry to write a check for one.

    The .327 Federal Magnum has yet to make a name for itself. I hope it gets the chance to do that before its name is forgotten.
     
  12. BHPshooter

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    Yes, 4 calibers:
    .32 S&W Short
    .32 S&W Long
    .32 H&R Magnum
    .327 Federal Magnum

    I haven't shot one yet, but I must say, I really like the idea.

    Wes
     
  13. KBintheSLC

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    I am waiting for Ruger to make a 6-shot .327 LCR... I'd buy one instantly.
     
  14. mesinge2

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    W.E.G., I could not agree with you more about wood grips on revolvers.

    This is my 638-3:

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    and these are the grips it came with (factory image):
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    BTW, The only plus for me is having an extra round in a J-frame sized gun without the need to hunt for a Detective Special. I still want one though. I like the look of the Ruger, but the barrel is too long. They should offer a 2.2 inch model like their other SP101's. This would be a great new pocket revolver.
     
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  15. pezo

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    That patriot revolver "knife" looks like a kershaw assist opening knife. I have one and it's a fantastic tool. I think the .327 was to give you a power level between .38 and .357 but with one extra shot in a small frame revolver. I dont think it's worth it but if you preferred .32 HR magnum over .38 it gives you more effective ballistics over the old .32 magnum. I'll stick with .357 and .38.
     
  16. Guillermo

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    I have enough calibers
     
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    No one appears to have mentioned the obvious advantage of a 327 versus 357:

    You can have a six shot J frame based revolver in a magnum caliber. Saw one at the local Cabelas.

    Jim G
     
  18. mesinge2

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    I actually mentioned that in post # 14

    And pezo mentioned it post # 15:

     
  19. ArmedBear

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    .32 H&R J-frames have been available with 6 rounds. I've seen a couple. The fact that few people know about them indicates that they haven't been overwhelmingly popular.

    Somehow, when a cartridge comes out with a new name, old becomes new again... This is a marketing opportunity for S&W et al., I guess.

    What I really don't get is the 8-round Blackhawk. Blackhawks are a PITA to load and unload as it is, since they don't index like SAAs or Ruger 3-screws at half-cock. What would induce me to buy some new ones would be the reverse-indexing pawl they put in the New Vaqueros, not 8 rounds. 6 rounds of .357 or .44, like I already have, would be fine with me.:)
     
  20. gunnutery

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    Thanks for all the feedback. Personally, I only stick to common calibers so that I know I'll be able to find them in stores or order them from catalogs.

    I've seen quite a few rounds developed to "bridge the gap between" X and Y calliber and I don't really get it. They rarely seem to catch on and if they linger, they still cost a lot more than the original calibers they were trying to bridge.

    For those of you that are pleased by the new offerings, I'm glad your needs/wants have been met. I hope you enjoy it. But I think I'll be sticking with .38 spc and .357 mag.


    +1 for the wood grips. I can't stand rubber grips (with the exception of Ruger's wood insert grips).
     
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  21. weregunner

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    I own quite a few .357 magnum/.38 Special revolvers and recently have become enamored with the .32s. Why? They're fun to shoot and for a long time.

    These are also versatile cartridges and get overlooked quite frequently.
    There are a lot of people out there who quietly use the .32s, enjoy them, it fills their needs,wants, and niches, and they have no reason to look for anything more.

    There are also a great number os us who own larger calibers and enjoy both the larger calibers and the .32s. We do not need an overall set of reasons to use them though we do have those.

    Many of us gun owners have various a plethora of calibers. Yes, there are those who do not and wish not to. Fine.

    We can also choose freely what we want to shoot.

    There are those who buy the .44 mganum,..454 magnum,460 S&W, or the .50 caliber handguns. Yet these same people have little use for them on big dangerous game. Most owners never hunt big critters or will come up against them, yet they buy the majority of the really powerful big bore guns. Those are to have for any number of reasons. Mainly because they can and for reasons that only they know about. Fine.

    There's nothing wrong in going the other way. Down through the decades I've kept the articles,books,and and shooting magazines that have shown make the case for the .32s. If you like them,fine. If not, fine. Just don't lok down the nose at those of us who do like the smaller bore guns.

    Got a .22lrf gun? Better chuck it if going after the small bore handgun crowd.:what::rolleyes::) Not likely, huh?

    I am not taking any of what's been said so far in print as a slam as that was not the posters' intent. Just thought to add a few things to put things in perspective.
    http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=34054.0
    http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=33842.0
    http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=29852.0
     
  22. ArmedBear

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    Got issues, weregunner?

    I don't see where anyone looks down on anyone here for shooting a .32 caliber. Why would they?

    I think the .327 may end up a boutique cartridge for pocket revolvers (I'm a big fan of pocket snubbies, myself). One reason that it's been pretty slow going for anything new is the ammo shortage of the past year and a half. That makes the future of a cartridge hard to predict. Certainly, the high prices for .38 Special of late could help push people to try something different -- not that any .32 caliber will be cheaper, but .38 isn't a cheap alternative.

    WRT handgunners who shoot for fun, I think that many of us think of a new caliber as a new set of dies, a new load to develop, some new bullets and maybe some different powder to keep around. For some, that may be fun. For others, it's a barrier that requires a new cartridge to be really worth the trouble before they'll mess with it. Since I have more hobbies than shooting handguns, I'm in the latter category. Money and time are limited resources, and I have to budget them.:)
     
  23. Guillermo

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    most of the folks on the HighRoad that I have seen like most anything that has burns powder.

    Sure, we have our favorites but I have not seen anyone "looked down on" for shooting 32s
     
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    I think that the caliber is great for varminting, small game, and trail guns. I'd love that Pro Series J-frame...
     
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    Solution: Get a .32H&R Dan Wesson to keep it company. Isn't that always the solution though? Buy another firearm?
     
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