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Anyone else going back to the 9mm??

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by NYH1, Oct 7, 2012.

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  1. DesertFox

    DesertFox Member

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    Although I never completely left the 9mm, my interest in 10mm caused me to jettison several of my initial 9mm purchases. I reload so I'm in deep - 9mm, 10mm, 38 Special, 357 Mag, 44 Mag. Over the last couple of years, I got into some C&R 9mm Mak types. Then I felt the need for a 1911 in 9mm and realized that with a bazzillion pieces of 9mm brass lying around, it made sense to start back that direction. I even bought a (gasp), S&W Sigma in 9mm.

    I have my wife setup with a Camp 9 carbine and S&W 5906 combo, which share magazines. 6 30 rounders that will go in either... Plenty of firepower for the little lady, one caliber, interchangeable mags.

    One of the big reasons driving me back to smaller calibers is knowing that muzzle flash kills your night vision and I'd really prefer to be able to see my target in dim lighting for follow up shots.
     
  2. Inebriated

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    I don't like 9mm that much, but I carry it daily.

    Might switch to .357 Sig or .45 ACP one day, but as of now, I have no reason to. My 26 is flawless, and I can practice with it a couple times a week and not go broke.
     
  3. Rexster

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    In a very roundabout way, I have returned to 9mm, twice, but neither time was exclusively to 9mm. My first time with 9mm was in 1984-1985, with a pair of HK P7 pistols, for police duty and concealed carry. To conform to PD uniform policy, I had a flap holster made locally. Yes, I said flap holster, very old-school. When my employer went to open-top retention holsters, no such rig existed for the P7. I could have kept using the flap holster, but the retention holster was actually much quicker from which to draw, so I reverted to a sixgun for duty, and subsequently sold most of my firearms during a financial squeeze. I also had an Uzi Carbine at the time. So, finances caused my first 9mm weapons to go away.

    My first return to 9mm was with Third Generation S&W pistols, a 3913 and 3953, in the
    1990s. I preferred the 3953's DAO, and sold the 3913. I soon added a Kahr 9mm. A close friend has the 3953, for as long as she wants to keep it. These 9mm pistols were used for concealed carry, as I
    mostly used revolvers for duty during this time. I soon entered an all-1911 phase, in 1997, for duty
    and carry. I eventually traded the K9.

    My second return to 9mm happened in July 2012, for orthopedic reasons. My employer has been all-.40 for duty pistols for some time, but the firearms training unit sent a proposal to the chief that 9mm be authorized as an alternative duty pistol cartridge, along with the 9mm counterparts of the current .40 duty pistols. The snappy .40 recoil, combined with the high bore axis of the SIG P229, has recently started to really hurt my aging, aiing right wrist*. I recall .40 Glocks kicking less than the .40 SIG, so I figured I would move to a gentler weapon and a gentler cartridge in one move, and bought a G17.

    Well, the chief did not sign the proposal, but I still have the G17. I will still have to use .40 at work, at least until such time as the 9mm proposal may be signed into policy. I still like my revolvers for much concealed carry, and I still favor an all-steel .45 ACP 1911 at times.
    Notably, the more gentler-accelerating .45 ACP, fired from an all-steel 1911, does not hurt my wrist, which is why I brought my Les Baer TRS out of a five-year hibernation.

    I may well start using a 9mm conversion barrel in my P229 for training, to lessen recoil damage to my wrist. Of course, on duty, the .40 is mandated.

    As for the ability of the 9mm to stop bad guys, I feel the difference between the leading service cartridges, in premium, controlled-expansion JHP form, is minimal. From .38 +P and 9mm +P up to .45 ACP, I am, or would be, comfortable enough carrying on the street. The .357 Magnum, in its full-pressure loads, may have a bit of an edge, and when I carry a GP100, it is because of that edge.

    To be clear, I do not hate the .40, and liked it before it was mandated in my duty pistols. I tried an S&W Shorty Forty back in its day, and .40 Browning Hi-Powers. Neither proved to be my cup of tea, but the cartrtridge was not at fault.

    *The kick of the .40 in the P229 not hurts my right wrist when shooting right-handed, but also when shooting left-handed, when I use the modern thumb-forward support hand technique. It IS good, of course, to be functionally ambidextrous, but the snappy .40 gets me either way.
     
  4. tackleberry45

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    Nope, stayin .45. I have .22s I train with for technique. Nothing against 9mm, just stayin .45
     
  5. jimbo555

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    I went back to the 9mmshort,just bought a sig p238!
     
  6. dondavis3

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    I've already switched.

    My favorite round is the .45

    But if you are at all price sensitive and if you shoot very often

    The difference in the cost of .45 vs. 9mm ammo is about double. ie $20 a box vs $10 a box.

    It varies a little dependending on store sales and where you buy it.

    But if you shoot often (I do) and you shoot, lets say, 200 rounds per month (I shoot a lot more) - 4 boxes .45 ammo = $80

    4 boxes of 9 mm = $40

    Shoot that and more each month and

    you can save enough money on ammo to buy yourself another gun every year.

    Heres a interesting link to watch

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scizGbJLnu4&feature=player_embedded

    I'm just sayin'

    :cool:
     
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  7. XTrooper

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    No. I shoot the .40 S&W very well, the recoil for me is a non-issue, and I currently have on hand 3000+ rounds of the stuff. I'm not switching to anything! :D
     
  8. Plan2Live

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    With the exception of a .22 semi auto (probably the Walther P22) as a training gun for new shooters, all of the guns on my current short list are 9mm. But I still like my Springfield Armory XDm 3.8 Compact in .40 very much and will never part with it. I now shoot it as well as I shoot my Sig 239. My 1986 vintage S&W 459 is and has always been my nightstand gun. The only way I would replace it as my nightstand gun is if I ever find a similar model with a rail, but that is not on my shortlist at the moment.

    I really like the idea of the 5906 and the Camp Carbine as a combo package. I'm sorry I never acquired that pair while they were readily available and affordable.
     
  9. BearGriz

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    I echo what a few others have said: I never left! All my research convinces me that it is a good round and a good price.

    Those are facts. Now whether it is better than another cartridge in any given situation is all theoretical until that exact situation plays out. I just know that the price, accuracy, recoil, capacity, an size all fit my desires.
     
  10. Teachu2

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    In 35+ years of pistol shooting, I'd never owned a 9mm. When I started, I shot wheelguns and 1911s, with a little bit of .22LR for fun. The 9mm SD ammo of the day left a lot to be desired, so I steered clear of it.

    Early this year, I decided I wanted a 9mm range gun, and my first poly frame as well. I now have a G34 (what a sweet range pistol), a LC9, a 2022, and a M&P 9c. Shot my first GSSF Indoor matches this summer, and took 1st in Stock class, four points behind the 1st place Unlimited average.

    I still enjoy shooting .45acp, but it's hard to fault today's 9mm. If California didn't have the mag limits, I'd probably carry a G19 insteadof a G30.
     
  11. JoeMal

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    I never left
     
  12. NYH1

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    Thanks for all the replies!

    I shot my G26 yesterday with my carry ammo (Federal HST 124 gr. +p).....WOW, you want to talk about accurate! I was very impressed. It's going to make a really nice carry pistol. I'm glad I made the trade.

    I don't dislike the 40 S&W. I don't know if I came across like that. I just found that the more I shoot the 9mm the more I like it. My G22 isn't going anywhere. 12K, 13K rounds through it without any issues of any kind, it's a keeper. I also have a Smith & Wesson SW1911 45 ACP. It's the basic stainless steel model. It's my first 1911 and 45 ACP. I really like it, not as much as my 11 year old son though, he loves it! I've often considered getting a 1911 in 9mm. Maybe after I get my G19 and the Smith & Wesson 629 Classic 5" 44 mag. I've wanted one of those for 20 years, just never got one lol.

    NYH1.
     
  13. GlackAttack

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    I've been thinking about getting A G29 10 MM for those times I'd like a little more stopping power. Pretty unnecessary for my lifestyle, I'd like a "subcompact" glock though.
     
  14. GLOOB

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    I have both, and don't plan to get rid of either. Caliber is secondary to platform, for me. If I get rid of a caliber, it'll be because I don't care for the guns I own in that caliber, anymore. Right now, I have at least one sweet shooting 9mm and 40SW that I don't plan to sell.

    I didn't warm up to the G27 so much and converted it to 9mm. I guess you could call that a caliber issue. I consider it more of a platform issue for me, since sub par reliability and/or durability of recoil spring over a spectrum of loads and shooting stances (one-handed/weak-handed) was my main problem with it.
     
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  15. el Godfather

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    There just isnt anything wrong with 9mm. Ever been shot with one?

    I am a .45 person in general, but some guns that I own in 9mm are unbelievably good. Like my H&K P30 and 226 Elite. In vehicle i have H&K USP 45 and Mark 23, along-with an H&K MP5-k.

    Its never about the caliber with me. I choose my guns according to need, situation, circumstances and ergonomically appropriate to the occasion.
     
  16. LeonCarr

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    Flame suit on.

    With today's modern JHP ammunition, and with 9mm ammunition available in +P and +P+, the performance difference between 9mm, .40, and .45 in gelatin tests and documented gunfights is negligible.

    I currently carry a 9mm, but have carried the .40 and .45.

    Just my .02,
    LeonCarr
     
  17. Black Butte

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    I love how easy it is to do caliber conversions on Glocks. I stay away from Lone Wolf barrels though. I like to keep my dollars in-country (as opposed to Korea), and I think the Lone-Wolf graphic is cheesy.
     
  18. Pukindog12

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    I didn't ever leave. As soon as I got over my preconceived notions of the 9mm and found out what an excellent caliber it was I went nuts. I now have six semi-autos in 9mm and am looking for a seventh. As far as I can foresee the 9mm can/will handle anything I envision happening. And if not and I foresee I may need more oomph I have my S&W 686. ;)
     
  19. HKGuns

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    Never left and never owned a 40. But I own a variety of calibers when you include revolvers. 9 & 45 have always covered my needs in the auto side of the house.
     
  20. Fiv3r

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    I walked my way back to 9mm after my daughter was born. Kids just take a LOT of money:D I could plink with 9mm for about half the cost of my .45 and a box of ammo with current cutting edge bullet design could keep me well defended.

    Now, don't get me wrong. I love the .45. I also love shooting .357, .38 special, and gobs of black powder not to mention half a dozen different rifle calibers. I just find the 9mm to be a practical round for me these days. Plenty of oomph using the right ammo, cost effective to practice with on a regular basis, and easy to find on the shelves.
     
  21. History.Doc

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    I'm keeping my 1911 but all of my other autoloaders are 9mm or 22lr. Just works better for me.
     
  22. siglite

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    I went from .45 back to 9mm about a year ago. Mob attacks popping up in cities all over the country were the motivation to be walking around with a LOT of ammunition.
     
  23. Fiv3r

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    That's actually one of the reasons I went UP to 9mm for my carry piece. I went from full size .45 down to .380 for carry comfort. A rash of smash and grab morning robberies in actually nice parts of town prompted me to lose a little confidence in 7 rounds of .380. Moving up to 10+1 of 9mm makes me feel a lot better, and I can shoot my Glock much better than my LCP.
     
  24. WinThePennant

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    Glock 26 for carry.

    Spare mags = Glock 19 mags.
     
  25. Sigokat

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    I love 9mm. All I own are .45 auto and 9mm.
     
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