Anyone else hate non-efficient ammo packaging?

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Obviously, don't buy the ammo if it offends you. You could always write the company a nasty-gram about it, and vent your rage at them over a piece of styrofoam :rolleyes:.
There really are more important things to worry about, just roll your own ammo and be done with it.
Some folk are just having fun with the topic. There're also more important things to worry about than worrying about the importance of what others worry about... Says the guy worrying about your worry:neener:.

As far as white box being loose in the box - mayhap they oughta go to "white bag" so we can reuse it.
 
Part of me says I should lock this, as complaining about packaging serves no real service. You guys have stayed remarkably on topic though, so I am hoping that this one just sort of dies a natural death. Is there teally much more to discuss?

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I'm worrying that there wont be anything more to keep me entertained here at Bagram :D:neener:, don't take away my fun. Seriously though, reload your own .223.
If you haven't started, its a fun hobby and very relaxing (at least to me). Just some time spent at the press, pretty soon you,ll have a bulk can filled up with target/range ammo :D
 
Size matters for loss prevention. A big box is harder to steal than a small one.

Maybe the packaging scheme is intended to give the appearance of containing more rounds than it really does. Sure, the label expresses the actual quantity, but some people don't read labels very closely.

That's why we read about people buying cartridges that are sort of almost the right ones for their gun, but not quite.
 
I sell brass by the pound where customers can scoop it out of 55 gallon plastic drums. Never thought about ammunition done like that. I've got some ideas spun off of that.
 
What about the clowns at Federal that package the primers? Talk about a waste of space.
 
That's to prevent detonation in transit. Trust me, they need it.
Yup - one thing you don't want "bulk" packed. "Toss me a bag of primers please."
I sure would like to have a "post consumer" use for them though as a lot goes int making those one time trays.
 
On the bin idea, another idea could be at a gun range, to have common ammo stored in bins that require tokens (say each token costs $5). At a handgun range, for example, you might have a bin for .22, 9, .40, .45, .38, .380, and .357. The dispenser then dispenses enough ammunition to accomade the token cost. That way, when you run through the box you bought at the counter, instead of having to leave the range area, you just go to the back wall, put in your token, and get a dozen more rounds.

The .22 dispenser would just use quarters.
 
Barnaul. All the rounds in the box are interwound with brown wrapping paper. It's a mess getting them out, and then you're left with a bunch of paper trash.
 
Part of me says I should lock this, as complaining about packaging serves no real service. You guys have stayed remarkably on topic though, so I am hoping that this one just sort of dies a natural death.

Thanks for not locking it! I guess it doesn't serve a real purpose to complain about packaging, but as gun owners are also oftentimes stewards of the environment, it can't hurt to raise awareness of ridiculous over-use of styrofoam. But also, maybe someone out there wants to buy a bunch of ammo online and store it, it might help them to know what is efficiently packaged. And the dispenser idea is brilliant, so it's all in good fun. I am sure it will die soon enough :)

Winchester white box. Huge box all foam and a few dirty bullets.....

Although I guess WWB is terrible in 50-packs, I only ever buy their 100-round "value" packs where the ammo is loose in the box.

Those manufacturers with good packaging that you listed are all imported brands. Remington is domestic. It might be that the imported brands want to save on shipping costs, and that domestic brands want to be big and get seen on the shelf.

That makes a lot of sense!
 
I ike the plastic ones that most .45 comes in.

Who needs to waste money on plastic boxes for thei reloads?
 
I recycle all of it, but the less waste the better. I see no need for plastic inside of the boxes.
Some of the 9mm plastic inserts make dandy reloading trays for .223, especially if you hand charge each one outside the press. So I guess I recycle a little too. ;)

Part of me says I should lock this, as complaining about packaging serves no real service. You guys have stayed remarkably on topic though, so I am hoping that this one just sort of dies a natural death. Is there teally much more to discuss?
This thread must not die! :D Seriously, we'll behave. And you gotta admit the bulk bin idea is pure genius.

Barnaul. All the rounds in the box are interwound with brown wrapping paper. It's a mess getting them out, and then you're left with a bunch of paper trash.
Same with Silver Bear. A stapled paper wrapper inside the box, with more pieces of paper inside it separating each layer of rounds. Try chasing those around on a windy day. Very difficult to handle properly in the field. Even on a bench it's a pain in the backside.
 
On the bin idea, another idea could be at a gun range, to have common ammo stored in bins that require tokens (say each token costs $5). At a handgun range, for example, you might have a bin for .22, 9, .40, .45, .38, .380, and .357. The dispenser then dispenses enough ammunition to accomade the token cost. That way, when you run through the box you bought at the counter, instead of having to leave the range area, you just go to the back wall, put in your token, and get a dozen more rounds.

The .22 dispenser would just use quarters.
The Japanese use dispensing machines like crazy.. just not ammoe and this and that..

Recycle, re-use.
 
Anyone else hate non-efficient ammo packaging?

Yes...

It's silly and wasteful...

The ammo companies should go back to the alternating 'up/down-5 to a row' like the 'old' days for handgun calibers, and alternating stacks for the rifle calibers...

Less packaging, more ammo per cube when shipping, etc....
 
Hows this for dense packaging?

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12,500rd drum of M855 *drool*
It's only $4,000

I'm sure the UPS man and his chiropractor would love you
 
The last time I bough Winchester white box for 9mm they were loose in the box. I don't remember having any dividers in the box. I can see people that pan lube liking the plastic dividers that come with say Federal handgun ammo. Allows you to quickly place bullets tightly together in the pan so there is no wasted space.


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Goes to show you how long it's been since I bought the junk....:p
 
I think that ammo-by-the pound with a scoop, bag, item code and barrel is a great idea. I hope someone gets that going.
FWIW, I think that the 'individually wrapped' rounds (the ones in the foam, plastic or cardboard) is done for the psychic value (i.e marketing impact). When that is done, some might think that it is higher value stuff that commands a higher price.
I KNOW that is what is done with individually wrapped candies and such. Probably works for just about anything.
I for one don't like it for the reasons cited by the OP. But at the end, I'll buy anything based on the price/performance value that I'm looking for for any particular purchase. It could even be marked 'For Zombies Only!'. Well, no, maybe not that. :)
 
No, my complaint about packaging isn't the efficiency of the packaging, by how the packaging hinders access to the ammunition. It seems that more often than not, but best access is to just dump it out.
 
The barrel above reminds me of what a fan I am of Wholesale Ammo's bulk re-loads sold in 500 round loose ammo cans. It's funny to look in and see all the varrying cases but after 1000s of rounds, I've never had a mishap.
 
I think Buffalo Bore may top the inefficient packaging list. Cardboard over a plastic box with a slab of foam inside that is 3x the size it needs to be.
I think you may be right. It's amazing how large a 20 round box of .38spl is when you get it from them.

It takes up so much space in a range bag. Before I upsized to a big Midway bag it was a real pain and I'd end up taking them out of the box, putting them in something else, just to go to the range.
 
I ike the plastic ones that most .45 comes in.

Who needs to waste money on plastic boxes for thei reloads?

^^^ This...

How green can ya get? I recycle the brass and also scrounge the used plastic, styrofoam and boxes out of the range trash. ;)

"Green" sounds so much better than "cheap!":D
 
I bought custom boxes in bulk before and the cost is all in the set up. The cardboard is the cheap part. If all you need is 100 boxes made the will coat a LOT more per box than if you buy them by the thousands. Ammo companies try to cut cost by using as few sizes as possible and be glad that they do. The savings is passed on to the customer in the form of lower prices.
 
the CCI plastic containers annoy me. The ones with the sliding lid. The bullets are hard to pull out without dumping it out.

Now, I mostly use ziploc bags too.
 
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