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Anyone else NOT like the hand prime tool?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Chainsaw, Jan 3, 2003.

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  1. Chainsaw

    Chainsaw Member

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    Mine was an RCBS. I tried to prime some LC brass with the crimp removed and Remington 7 1/2 primers. Worst experience (after that doctor slap me of course)of my life. I bought the tool specifically for that and it left primers seated high medium and only a few were just right. Fixed the 50 I primed up on the Rockchucker, and went back to press priming.

    Sold the RCBS and won't go back. Anyone have a similiar problem?
     
  2. Sisco

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    Never used a RCBS, do use a Lee. Never had a problem.
     
  3. Trini

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    Only way I prime my cases. Have been using a Lee for many years. I can check make sure the primer is seated correctly and to the correct depth. Never timed myself but figure about 500 - 600 per hour.
     
  4. braindead0

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    I use and RCBS hand primer on occasion, probably put 2000 primers in with it and never had a problem with it.

    Certainly no high primers.....except one time when I had the ram in backwards (oops).
     
  5. Bob C

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    I used a Lee for over 20 years with no problems at all, and still do occasionally although most of my loading now is on a Dillon press which has a priming function.

    A few years ago I bought an RCBS when Midway had them on sale. It did not work for me, at all.
     
  6. Nanook

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    I've had the same experience as Bob C., used the Lee Auto-Prime before I had the Dillon. It's still in a cabinet on the reloading bench, I will use it again on my single-stage press. I had zero problems with the Lee when I used it. I loaded 4 or 5 thousand rounds using it.
    I do more handgun shooting lately and reload all those calibers on the Dillon.
     
  7. RobW

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    I also use the Lee without problems. They anyway give a warning not to use other primers than CCI or Winchester.
     
  8. cordex

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    Never had a problem with mine.

    It does require developing a "feel" for the seating depth.
     
  9. 444

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    I have been using a Lee, the same Lee, for about 15 years. Never had a problem. Have recommended it any number of times on these boards. I also have slacked off quite a bit since I know have two Dillon 550Bs, but there are still quite a few calibers I load on the single stage. I only use my Dillons for those calibers that I shoot in high volume.
     
  10. Nero Steptoe

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    I've loaded several thousand rounds of .223 LC brass using the RCBS hand primer. The RCBS tool took a little getting used to after the Lee tool, but I much prefer the RCBS now. I'm loading on a progressive now that seats primers just fine.

    I'd suggest that something was wrong with the RCBS that was seating primers high....maybe the shell holder or the ram in backwards, as the other guy said.
     
  11. Jon Coppenbarger

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    I have used the rcbs for about a year or so now and love it.
    I shoot in competition in service rifle highpower and do do quite alot to prep my brass before it gets fired.
    I usually buy pre-processed once fired rvo l.c. .223 brass that has had the crimp removed.
    this is my process.
    #1 run threw the giraud trimmer to trim to the same length for every piece and at the same time chamfer both the outside and inside all at the same time.

    #2 deburr the flash hole and ream it and look into every case the first time after deburring the flash hole to insure it is perfect.(only need to do it once)

    #3 uniform and clean the primer pocket on every piece of brass so they are all exactly the same and between loads clean the pocket every time.

    I do other things to the brass and loads but you should not be interested in that unless you are trying to get everything as perfect as you can.

    I also use rem. 7 1/2 primers or cci bbr4 primers.
    the rem. for everything 300 yards and under and the cci for 600 yards.

    I like a hand primer as you can get the feel for how the primer seats and that way you can always detect a loose primer pocket or one that needs to be uniformed more.

    the sinclair hand primer is one of the next on my list but last year did about 4,000 on my rcbs hand primer and in the last month about 1,500 all with out any problems except having to keep puting primers in the tray.
     
  12. Peter M. Eick

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    The only problem I ever had with my Lee primer is after about 15 years, it wore loose enough that it needed to be replaced. The factory would refurbish it for 1/2 the cost, but I said the heck with it and just bought another.

    Great unit, it reloads ever rifle case I shoot.
     
  13. Mal H

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    Chainsaw - I've used the RCBS hand priming tool for years and have had zero problems with it. I strongly suspect your brass/primer combo may have had more to do with the problems than the tool.

    In fact, I could take your post and reverse "Rockchucker" for "RCBS hand tool" to describe my experience with priming with those two tools (except for the selling part). I love the Rockchucker press, but priming with it, IMO, leaves a heck of a lot to be desired.
     
  14. PALongbow

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    I use the RCBS hand primer tool and have never had a problem seating primers.

    Ron
     
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    Every once in a while my Lee will put the primer in upside down but I've used it a long time so its probably time to get a new one.
     
  16. Chainsaw

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    Mal and others, It could possibly have been my primer-brass combination or I wasn't using the tool right. I have not given up on anything like that before, but I was so disappointed after hearing all the great things about the primer tool, that I thought it would be a piece of cake to use.

    Someday I might try the Lee priming tool, and see if I have any better results.------------Chainsaw
     
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    Nope. I like my Lee AutoPrime.

    Only time I had high primers is when I did not check to make sure the primer pockets are okay, sometimes, primer debris will make it not fully seat.

    That, and the calluses I get on my thumb. :D
     
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    Overall crummy priming results on my progressive - LNL AP - so I use the RCBS handtool. No problems, just make sure you aren't using an old Lee shellholder you had sitting around.
     
  19. pooch

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    I used the Lee tool for many years. It is a good, fairly sensitive, and inexpensive tool. When it wears out just toss it and buy another one. I now use the K&M tool. It's a one at a time primer, which I like. It's a little more expensive, but high quality and high sensitivity. You only have to buy this tool once....pooch
     
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    My RCBS handprimer is well-worn after years of use. It works well for me, and primes better than my Dillon. In fact, I ever ever used the priming function on m single-stage presses because the handheld has been great.
     
  21. MoNsTeR

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    I have a Lee and an RCBS. The Lee works great, the RCBS is junk. It has a list of design flaws so long it would make me red in the face just typing them out, UGH! :banghead: :cuss: :fire:
     
  22. WESHOOT2

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    PRODUCTION

    One day during production I broke both my LEE hand-primers; tops cracked off (over-heated?).

    Bought two RCBS with the 'blast shield'; used often for specific production runs.
    Perfect.
     
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    I've broken the top off of one lee hand primer,maybe from the lack of proper lube,other than that lee's have worked well for over 9 years.
     
  24. Nero Steptoe

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    "One day during production I broke both my LEE hand-primers; tops cracked off (over-heated?). "

    More likely is the fact that pot metal isn't very durable.
     
  25. WESHOOT2

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    FRIGGIN' POT METAL

    I've broken: LEE Challenger (first run), LEE Reloader (first push of lever); LEE hand-priming tools (2).
    (I use a few single-stages for flaring/charge-dumping/specials/development.)

    I know potmetal (kid, junkie toys).

    I like some LEE stuff; dies, chamfer tool, pocket cleaner, trimmers, but I still recommend a used RCBS/Lyman/Redding press before buying a new LEE.
    Potmetal, you know.............


    Your results may vary.
     
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