Anyone have an old copy of an NRA reloading manual

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I had one and can't seem to find it. It had some extremely hot reload data in it which I would like to look at again. I think mine was from 1958. I am specifically interested in the 44 mag data. If you have one from that time would you be so kind as to send the data to me?
 
The 44 mag is on page 200 of that manual ^^. I have a copy of it. Interesting reading all through it. Like the piece Practical Handloading by Jac Weller on page 19, and the pieces Good Loads for Turkey, and Ultra-Light Rifle Loads on pages 187 and 184.

RE the 44 loads, I dont recall them being extremely hot. The factory load was quite hot. It ran 41,870 psi, Keiths load, by comparison, (22 grs 2400 w/250 gr Lyman 429421) ran 26,680 psi, which is contrary to internet lore. Keith was pretty conservative with his handloads for 44 mag, stating in his book that he could tell they were noticeably below factory pressure, and he was content to keep it that way.
 
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No, that was the 44 mag load. In the 44 spl he loaded I believe 18.5 grs in the older balloon head type cases, then went to I think 17.5 grs in the new solid head cases in the 50's. The 44 mag loads increased the velocity over what the 44 spl loads would do, but not by leaps and bounds. I'm thinking about 150-200 fps overall with his hunting level loads, depending on barrel length and such.

The manual refered to in this post has the NRA loads for 44 spl also. They said they went to an even 17 grs I believe, to equal out the pressure from the lod load after the new cases came out. They have specific pressure tested loads of the various cases, loads and bullets, and description in the text on page 195.
 
NRA reloading manuals not just data copied from manufacturer sources? Just like Lee manuals are.
Data from 1958 would not apply to currently available powders.
 
NRA reloading manuals not just data copied from manufacturer sources? Just like Lee manuals are.
Data from 1958 would not apply to currently available powders.

No, at that point in time, the NRA tech section was pretty active in working up loads and such. Read the sections on each cartridge, it gives some insight.

You are correct that the load data from them doesnt directly apply to todays versions of the same powders. Unique and 2400 were changed, I dont recall when, maybe late 90's? In any event, nobody should simply copy a max load without working it up with the components they have. Using a chronograph to try to duplicate the load results would probably be a good idea, watching of course for any potential issues along the way. The charges are likely to be a little different to end up with similar velocities. Within certain pressure ranges, if not at max, may be OK to work with without doing as much workup.
 
I used to load 17.3 gr Bluedot with 200 gr as well as 240gr, VERY accurate and a Fire Breather.
 
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