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Anyone have info on 22 CB rounds?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by johnny blaze, Dec 5, 2006.

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  1. johnny blaze

    johnny blaze Member

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    I was looking at some ammo that is coming up for sale at an auction tomorrow. There is a full box of rounds marked 22CB,
    Are these just 22 shorts? Are they still produced?
    Any info would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. Pumpkinheaver

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    Ultra low velocity and noise, they sound a little louder than an air rifle when they go off. CCI makes them in 22 short and 22 long or at least used to.
     
  3. .41Dave

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    .22 CB caps are light loaded "shooting gallery" .22 rimfire rounds. CCI still makes CB caps, in both long and short versions. They fire a 29 grain bullet at a leisurely 727 fps.
     
  4. Outlaws

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    They are just a primer with no gun powder.

    I have a few types. Very fun. They won't cycle a semi auto, but they are still a blast. My rifles sound like an air gun, and my revolver sounds like someone clapping their hands.

    If they are a good deal, buy a box or two, you won't be disapointed.
     
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  5. tubeshooter

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    I often hear people characterizing the sound as either about like a handclap, or quiet enough that "the sound of the hammer hitting the round is louder".

    I've shot a couple... to me, they sound about like a hammer hitting a nail one stout time. If you didn't see it, you'd probably be like "that *might* have been a .22 gunshot... but there's ample room for doubt".

    I heard it over the hammer, I'll say that much - and this was a 24" barrel. Definitely quieter than shorts, though.


    It's all relative to the individual, of course; YMMV and all that.
     
  6. johnny blaze

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    Thanks everone for the replies. I had never seen them before.
    I now know one more thing than I did yesterday.:D
     
  7. Mannlicher

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    I use them often, but mostly in the CB Long variety. They are great for harvesting squirrels in the back yard, or shooting cats that get over my fence.:)
     
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    I've shot them out of my Ruger MKII and they remind me of a cap gun going off. No ears necessary as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    its the only round that I would ALMOST stand in front of
     
  10. GRIZ22

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    Some of them won't penetrate a cadboard box. If you use them on metal targets they will bounce off. If you want to shoot lo vel rds at metal get the "gallery splatterless" made for shooting galleries.
     
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    You can get them in both Shorts or Longs, but also in this little German versions....

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    Don't use the CCI CB longs in hot weather (80+). They have a waxy coating that melts and gets gummy. Otherwise they are great.

    I'm sure CB longs will go through cardboard. They cut through both sides of an empty soda can with ease.
     
  13. NewShooter

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    I believe they do have a small amount of powder in them. Its the Aguila Super Colibri that are primer only.
     
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    Perfect for training small children.:)
     
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    you can use the cb's in your backyard , proly, and yes , the cb's are 29 grain conical ball, usually loaded with no powder.
     
  16. tubeshooter

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    Yeah... made a great introduction to firearms for my daughter. Not too intimidating.
     
  17. Hogfan1911

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    I've used the Aguila's to kill 3 possums that kept getting in our garage here in the 'burbs (god I can't wait to move out in the sticks....). Out of my little AR-7
    they sound like dropping a heavy hardback book on a tile or wood floor, only sharper. No complaints from the neighbors. Instant kills w/headshots at 1-3 feet. Shot some at the range w/my 10/22. With the scope on 9x & target at 15 yds I could actually track the rounds visually against the white background of the paper for the last few inches before they hit. Still penetrated the 1/8 inch thick cardboard, though.
     
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    I use them all the time doing nuisance wildlife work, and in fur trapping. VERY quiet and discrete. I have put down everything from possums to fox and coon. The only thing I wont use them on is Coyotes, I use 22lr for them.

    Sparky
     
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    I have put down a deer injured by a car with a single cci cb cap. Winchester 9422 shot at the base of the skull from 10 feet away. The look on the watching Highway Patrolmans face was priceless.
     
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    CB = Conical Ball

    The only cautions I've been given are
    1) when firing from a rifle, make sure the round has enough energy to clear your barrel (things can get interesting if it halts before the muzzle);
    2) they may not have the energy required to cycle the action of an autoloader.

    Outside of that, the guy I buy mine from uses them to plink nuisance pigeons in his back yard with his single-shot.

    I have an air gun that fires its pellets faster than the CB round. They both make a kind of slapping sound.
     
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    The CB cap does have a small amount of powder in it. There is also the BB cap and that is the one that is just the primer for propulsion.
     
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    I use 22 cb shorts in a bolt action savage with great luck.
     
  23. 230RN
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    Some have a dab of powder, some don't. The really short copper-cased CB and BB caps from Germany (RWS) don't. (The BB caps have a round shot for a bullet, the CB ones are, as might be expected, loaded with a conical ball.)

    I accidentally killed an amorous dog once with one of the powderless RWS CB caps. Regretted it, since I only wanted to pelt him while he was sniffing/digging around my pheremone-filled kennel.

    I consoled myself and assuaged my guilt by saying to myself, "Oh, well, if you let your dog run around uncontrolled, what can you expect?"

    The CCI ones do have powder in them, at least the ones I've dissected. Apparently, CCI feels that since the priming charge is so inherently variable, they can "swamp" this variability by adding some powder --but this is just my theory.

    The Aguila ("Super Colibri") ones don't.

    I shot some of the Aguilas out of a well-used .22 Remington rifle. The first one got stuck in the bore, and I pushed it out (easily) with a rod and ran a bore brush through it. The others went through cleanly after that. One of the advantages of this bolt rifle is that it will feed shorts, longs, and long rifles from the magazine, so it was a lot of fun cranking the bolt and firing again. Grouping was not too bad, 2" or so in my 11 yard living room, but firing was done with a scope focused for 50-100 yards, and the image was therefore blurry.

    These powderless Aguilas are, as described, very quiet, with the firing pin click being louder than the report in a rifle. They make a moderate bang out of a pistol. If you are in the room, there's no mistaking that a shot was fired.

    They do dent the back of a Beeman pellet trap, so I stuck a 1/4" aluminum plate back there, once I plastered up the holes from my first misses. Stupidly lucky me there was no wiring back there under the drywall. They penetrate about 150-200 pages of a phone book.

    The CCI ones (with the aforementioned dab of powder) do make a noticeable crack, even out of a rifle.

    Sighting with the Aguilas is problematic. I found the Aguilas shot about two inches to the right compared to regular rounds at only 11 yards (living room distance) out of that Remington rifle.

    Tried single-loading them in a tube-fed bolt rifle which wouldn't feed them out of the complicated lifting mechanism of a tubular magazine rifle, but this was awkwarder than hell, so quit it before substantial results could be reported.

    Another thing you might try (outdoors + backstop!) is the Aguila SSS (so-called "Sniper Sub Sonic") rounds which are low velocity and loaded with a loooong 60-grain bullet in a .22 short case. Oddly, I found these to be pretty accurate out of a .22 Auto pistol, and they cycle the action pretty much normally, as would be expected with the heavier 60-gr bullet. However, the short case sometimes gets hung up on ejection. But they too are quieter than the regular .22LR --as was the design goal.

    That's my experience.

    Bear in mind these are not toy rounds, and can kill... as in my dog incident and the deer incident cited in a previous post.
     
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  24. Khornet

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    my second lot of 5000 CCI CB Longs in the last 3 years. With 4 boys and one girl you can go through them fast.

    From a long barrel, e.g. a Model 52, they sound--really-- like a staple gun. They WILL damage a steel pellet trap, though they won't penetrate. Ears are definitely needed with a handgun. Good ventilation is essential indoors; in my basement range I mop the floor after using them.

    Mostly I use them now for the kids to shoot from the hayloft down into the back yard where I have squashed soda cans hanging at about 20 yards as reactive targets. Great, quiet fun.

    BB caps tend to, ah, lose their balls. Open a can and you'll likely see a few loose ones rolling around.

    Powderless types like Colibri often don't exit rifle barrels, even shorter ones like a 77/22.
     
  25. Pumpkinheaver

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    I have killed quite a few tree rats with the CCI CB longs. Sighted my ruger 10-22 with them and at 20 yds they will kill a squirrel.
     
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