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Anyone holding off on new silencer purchase?

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Elkins45, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Elkins45

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    I wouldn’t mind having another rimfire silencer but I’m slightly worried President “The assault on the 2nd Amendment is over” might actually succeed in getting them banned through executive fiat. I would hate to see any more money poured down the drain than the significant amount I have already paid for my current cans. Based on the bump stock example we wouldn’t be compensated by the .gov for taking our property.

    Anybody else holding off until they see if Mr. Populist carries through?
     
  2. AlexanderA
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    The reason bump stocks could not be registered as machine guns was the Hughes Amendment. Therefore, once they were declared to be machine guns, the only option was to make them contraband.

    Suppressors are already registered under the NFA. There is no issue, then, of a change in their status by regulation. Any outlawing of suppressors would have to come from Congress, and that isn't happening.
     
  3. Elkins45

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    I'm not 100% convinced of this. The House would certainly be OK with messing with the NFA to make it more restrictive. I'm not sure that Cocaine Mitch wouldn't be willing to take up a similar amendment if it were attached to something he really wanted. Mitch has shown himself quite skilled and getting GOP Senators to vote for the stuff he wants regardless of their own personal feelings toward the issue. The only thing that gives me hope in that regard is that his home state tends to look very unfavorably upon any sort of gun control.

    Sorry to make this so overtly political, but the only reason NFA exists as a separate category is politics.
     
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    According to the things I am reading, it's come out in the last few days that the Virginia Beach shooter did indeed own his suppressor legally, and had gone through the months-long vetting process. By all reports, he was the kind of person that would have passed any background checks. This removes the ground from under the gun controllers, as their calls for more background checks, and further regulation of suppressors, are totally wide of the mark in this case. Even Trump has been notably silent after his initial statements.
     
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    Hopefully his short attention span will benefit us here.
     
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    AlexanderA: Are you saying that since suppressors are controlled through statute as opposed to agency regulation that makes their legal status much more difficult to change?

    Elkins45: Consider also the possibility that the entire NFA registry is frozen much like the Hughes Amendment did to machine guns. I think this would be a more likely scenario since the feds could avoid having to confiscate anything. If that were to happen you would be happy you purchased that extra suppressor.

    Dan
     
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    That's exactly what he's saying. A change to NFA has to be done by the full legislative process, not an executive pen stroke.
     
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    Yes, because it would take both houses of Congress, plus the president, to make changes. Certain things the president can do on his own, acting through the executive agencies (as was done on bump stocks). I don't see any scope for this regarding suppressors.
     
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    No, as a matter of fact, I just received my SOT to start dealing in them..
     
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    One good thing that may come out of this recent public attention on suppressors is that more people become educated about them, and realize that they are not the "silencers" portrayed by Hollywood. Already we are seeing the initial hue and cry starting to die down.
     
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    I'm not convinced that there aren't things that the POTUS could do within his Executive Branch that could make the process even more painful/time consuming, but I don't really think that's going to happen, and those options wouldn't include a ban anyway. If anything, I'm looking to get more forms in process because things might not look the same after 2020. I already have two F4s in process, but am looking at getting a few F1s going in the e-file system. I kind of like my AR pistol, it might not be a bad idea to have an SBR stamp laying around in case things go sideways on braces like they did on bump stocks.

    Generally speaking, if there is something NFA you want, now is always better time to get started than later.
     
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    That's probably good advice for things like suppressors and SBR's, since you don't have a whole lot of money tied up. Machine guns are another story, considering the ridiculously high prices. That horse left the barn some time ago.
     
  13. Dan Forrester

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    Thank you AlexanderA and MachIVshooter. It all makes sense the way you’ve explained it. I guess I never thought it all through.

    Dan
     
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    Lol, I'm a poor, machine guns aren't even on my radar at this point.
     
  15. CapnMac

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    I am neither rushing in nor holding back. Which is probably more related to a lack of suitable hosts than anything else.

    The political shenanigans are just that, political, and shenanigans. Neither of which are much within my purview--right or wrong as that may be,
     
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    I know I am going to die someday but I don’t let that fact limit my plans for tomorrow. That’s not much of a way to live.
     
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