Anyone Interested in a Remake of a 1980's Classic Bren Ten pistol?

Didn’t they try to make a go at it again 15ish years ago?

I think the 10mm only keeps gaining momentum and there seems to be many more options out there now, and I don’t think the interest will be waning anytime soon.
 
What about a Tanfo Defiant Stock Master in 10mm? CZ clone

I see Witness has been mentioned a few times now, sorry. Please ignore!
 
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I wish they still had the caliber conversion kits for the tanfoglios. I have a large frame witness elite match. You could get caliber conversion to change them between 9mm, 38 super, 40, 10mm, and 45 with the same frame. I always wanted one with 9 and 10mm slides.
 
I would say the CZ looks like a Bren...
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The resemblance is not a coincidence. Cooper liked the CZ75 even though it was a DA pistol. The Bren was based on the CZ design.
 
halfmoonclip said:
bc1023, do your guns have a crossbolt safety in the slide? I see it has a frame mounted safety, like a CZ75. How does all that work? Nice guns, lucky you!

Moon
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Yes, the Bren Ten had two manual safeties. The cross bolt just blocked the trigger from hitting the firing pin. It doesn’t lock anything.
 
The Voit decocker on a selective DA/SA made more sense to me.

Jeff Cooper also liked the P7, kind of damning with faint praise:
"If you are stuck with a 9mm, it had just as well be the smallest and neatest available."
 
The Bren Ten is state of the art - 1981. As a teenager in the '80's I lusted after a Bren Ten and was heartbroken when D&D went south. Ian has a great video about it over at Forgotten Weapons that goes into how it tried to be the "everything" gun, how it was tacti-cool before mall ninja's and some pretty spot on analysis if why it failed, and of why it's time is really past.

Ultimately I feel pretty safe in saying that Colonel Cooper wanted a CZ in something bigger than 9mm, with made in USA a plus but not a requirement. I think he would have been thrilled with the CZ-97 in 45 ACP, and I think he would have liked the Tanfoglio offerings a great deal as well.

And that is the reason I would not be interested in a remake. There are CZ based 10mm's on the market now. I own three of them (Witness, Witness Match and Stock III). They are great guns. I have never handled a Bren Ten and probably never will as rare as they are. I can't imagine they shoot any better than my Witness's.
 
Bren 10 is Cool! All hammer fire 10’s are COOL! they got a good punch too! feels right!

Might busy out the 10mm today!
 
bc1023 said:
Yes, the Bren Ten had two manual safeties. The cross bolt just blocked the trigger from hitting the firing pin. It doesn’t lock anything.
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Did the Bren safety have a decocker? A common gripe of the current CZs (which can be carried cocked/locked) is decocking for a double action first shot...it has to be done manually, which can lead to an ND. Did setting the crossbolt allow for safe decocking?
Charlie98 said:
Yes... Enzo threatened (or actually did...) sue them for portraying the kit car as a Ferrari, so that was the deal they came up with.
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Now that is really interesting. Do we know what platform was used for the faux Daytona? Maybe we won't call down hellfire and damnation for blowing it up, since it wasn't real.
I have the series on CD; need to have a closer look at the car.
Moon
 
halfmoonclip said:
Now that is really interesting. Do we know what platform was used for the faux Daytona? Maybe we won't call down hellfire and damnation for blowing it up, since it wasn't real.
I have the series on CD; need to have a closer look at the car.
Moon
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Correct... a Corvette chassis.

In the episode I mentioned previously... S2E14... that episode actually has a real Daytona in it, a yellow one, driven by "...your rich lawyer friend.... Thurman" played by the late John Heard.
 
Maybe a CZ 97B could be converted to 10mm? That would probably be more feasible than a complete tool/up of a new gun. Be sorta similar to the original CZ inspired Bren Ten design, too. 🤔

Stay safe.
 
Riomouse911 said:
Maybe a CZ 97B could be converted to 10mm? That would probably be more feasible than a complete tool/up of a new gun. Be sorta similar to the original CZ inspired Bren Ten design, too. 🤔

Stay safe.
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It has.
CZ custom once offered this conversion. Supposedly, less then 12 were built as they break barrel lugs.
 
sevt_chevelle said:
It has.
CZ custom once offered this conversion. Supposedly, less then 12 were built as they break barrel lugs.
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Ya, doesn’t surprise me to hear that gun had issues. The 10 is pretty rough on stuff sometimes.

Stay safe.
 
Riomouse911 said:
Maybe a CZ 97B could be converted to 10mm? That would probably be more feasible than a complete tool/up of a new gun. Be sorta similar to the original CZ inspired Bren Ten design, too. 🤔
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There was a company that did a 10mm conversion on customer-supplied CZ 97Bs. “CMC” or “CZC,” something like that.

ETA: yeah, CZC …. Some pics of the conversion:

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