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Anyone know any felon shooters?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by klover, Oct 16, 2005.

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  1. klover

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    Correct me if I'm wrong. Once you commit a felony, serve your time, and resume life, you are no longer allowed to own a firearm for self defense.

    Let's say you came out of prison with sincere regrets about your past, and want to live doing the right thing by society as well as God.

    Now, if I hand you a .22 rifle, and invite you to go target shooting with me, am I violating the law? Of course, after the shooting, the arms stay with me (I am NOT a felon).

    Due to many circumstances, I might just make such an offer because of it's potential social benefit. Target shooting could be a tool to help keep a man "on the High Road".

    I'm old enough to know to mind my own business. A little voice is screaming at me to mind my own. Will the Law scream at me leagally? :uhoh:
     
  2. Preacherman

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    You make yourself an accessory to the crime of unlawful possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. In a word - forget it!
     
  3. M-Rex

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    IF you give a firearm to a felon, not only will the felon return to prison (where he should have remained, anyway), but you will also be commiting a crime. Not to mention that you are endangering your life and the lives of those around you depending on the P.A.L. (Parolee At Large).

    Granted, though. My experience with felons is somewhat jaded having worked in close proximity to them for many years. I sincerely never have met one who wanted to 'go straight'. Ever.

    Why in the world would you want to give a felon a weapon?
     
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  4. Beetle Bailey

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    Unless his firearms rights have been legally restored, I would never even entertain the idea of handing a convicted felon a firearm, and even if their rights were restored, I'd be extra careful about it.

    Well, if you really are set on helping this guy stay on the "straight and narrow" then think about an air rifle or air pistol. That should be a positive activity and a legal one. But don't ever cross the line into "real" guns. Ever.
     
  5. Standing Wolf

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    What's needed is a method for felons' Second Amendment civil rights to be restored.
     
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    Ala Dan Member in memoriam

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    I agree my with friend, Preacherman~!:D Don't Do It.
     
  7. Lupinus

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    I wouldn't trust it.
     
  8. Mr_Moore

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    I have heard that a pardon gets your rights back.

    If a person straightens out his/her life they can apply for a pardon.
     
  9. Farnham

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    I knew a felon shooter a while back...

    Recently released felon broke into his house, and my neighbor (the felon shooter) put a load of birdshot into his neck and chest. Good aim, poor choice of equipment. At least the felon got to go home afterwards (Chino, if I recall)...:D

    S/F

    Farnham
     
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    heh heh heh

    Farnham beat me to it!
    can I still volunteer?
     
  11. MechAg94

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    I believe felons can shoot some black powder arms. Better than nothing.
     
  12. Lupinus

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    With laws and some felons I wouldn't trust it.

    Though if you can;t be trusted to be follow the same rule's as everyone else I don't particuarly think you belong out of prision.
     
  13. Combat-wombat

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    SO many crimes are felonies today. It seems people only associate "felon" with violent thugs, but now more than ever there are laws turning more and more crimes into felonies, and creating new felony crimes that shouldn't even be illegal.
     
  14. Lupinus

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    True com.

    Felonies should have different classes as far as what get's you banned from having a gun

    If it isnt violent you should be allowed a gun
     
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    It's also possible to lose your rights to buy firearms via NICS if you have been hit with a misdemeanor charge and served no time. Some misdemeanors are treated as felonies if it's theoretically possible to put someone in prison for more than a year under them.

    I trust felons a lot more than feds.
     
  17. LawDog

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    For your edification, Texas Penal Code, Chapter 46:

    Also of interest, Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, Chapter 48:

    LawDog
     
  18. Zundfolge

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    Note: When I started typing all this, the last post in the thread was MechAg94's (#11) :p

    Considering how easy it is to become a felon in this day and age I bet most of us know plenty of "felons".

    Heck, I own a carbine kit for a Steyr pistol ... if I assemble the parts in the wrong order I've committed a felony (the barrel MUST be installed before snapping on the stock).

    Put the wrong information on the wrong line on a federal government form and you've committed a felony.

    If your kid was to bypass filtering software on your school's computer to get a faster internet connection (and access music and porn) like these kids did and they are a felon.

    Or if your kid writes a fictional story about zombies invading his school, he's now a felon.

    Dress up like an Abu Ghraib prisoner and if the cops over react you could be facing a felony.

    If this passes, and you make a mistake when filing your taxes via an e-file site that uses SSL encryption and you've committed a felony.

    I several states its a felony for two gay men (or women) to have sex.

    You have some rural property that you don't keep groomed? Well the plant Cannabis sativa L grows wild in some places (or if some pothead plants it on your property) you're a felon.

    Your wife has surgery, the doctor prescribes a pain killer and doesn't use them all up so a year later you pull a muscle and find the old prescription pain killer in the medicine cabinet so you decide to take one. Now you're a felon.

    You would be amazed at all the ridiculous crap that can get you a felony conviction ... we no longer live in a country where "felony=serious crime" and "misdemeanor=non serious crime".

    One of the greatest things the antis have done is get gun owners to jump up and down in agreement with "no 2A rights for felons" ... for the umpteenth time read my sig :rolleyes:
     
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    Like what?
     
  20. M-Rex

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    So?
     
  21. hammer4nc

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    So, how many felons have had their rights restored? In Texas, or any other state? Citations?

    How about federal offenses, eh?

    When .gov employees always crow about the process for restoration of rights, (sometimes even blythely posting chapter and verse) why do they ALWAYS have amnesia about the caveat that BATF won't even accept any applications for 2A rights restoration...for LACK OF FUNDING!!!

    Couple that with the fact that the feds are prosecuting a larger percentage of crimes every year...

    Sheesh, sometimes I think someone's trying to mislead us?

    +1 on the point that felonies are a lot more common than they used to be...when the prohibition was first instituted.
     
  22. M-Rex

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    We have it codified in our law that a felon can have their rights reinstated. I believe there are a few folks who did it, but I will have to dig around a bit to find specific examples.

    http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=52388510356+14+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

    Hmm...now that I was not aware of. Can you provide chapter and verse?
     
  23. Zundfolge

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    So just because someone is a "felon" doesn't mean they are dangerous.


    And the more we as gun owners go along with this silly notion that any felony = deserving of revocation of rights then we're going to wake up some morning to discover that the Second Amendment still exists but its been rendered moot because we're all "felons".

    Again, read my sig.
     
  24. M-Rex

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    Thanks, but I'm not willing to bet my life on that.
    Try one of these, and relax a little. :neener: ;)

    http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
     
  25. Telperion

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    Not really; it's buried in the annual appropriations bill. Who wants to read that? ;)

    Here is a case that exemplifies the problem, though: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=000&invol=01-704

     
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