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Anyone know whatever happened to those Korean M1 Garands?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by 45223, Apr 4, 2015.

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  1. 45223

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    Last I heard Obama blocked them from coming to the US. But now what?
     
  2. nathan

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    There must be powerful lobbies in the floors of Congress trying to stop their importation . Maybe police unions and BATF are so concern that the .3006 can penetrate body armor level 3 ? Almost all of them are antigunners and follow the mantra of total disarmament and total control ...
     
  3. hso

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    Still blocked.
     
  4. M-Cameron

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    does anyone know if there is actually a legitimate reason (or even a semi-legitimate reason) for them being blocked........or it simply a matter of Obama being like " no, because i said so"...?
     
  5. Bexar

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    Pretty much. M-1 carbines too.

    Breaks my heart.

    That kind of history and artifacts of American workmanship to provide and defend against tyranny should be allowed to come back home. Those two models not only fought against tyranny for us but for other countries as well. Many an American soldier and Marine lived out their lives simply because of those rifles. The WWII Pacific campaign would have been won at considerably higher cost without them. Never mind the massed charges of the North Koreans.
     
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  6. Twiki357

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    Don't forget all the M-14s. Just like the M-1 Carbines, only some of them are full auto.
     
  7. Ignition Override

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    Don't US gun manufacturers also lobby Congress against any large quantities of potentially imported guns?
    Or is this simply taken for granted?
     
  8. shotgunjoel

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    US manufacturers were big behind the 1994 ban on Chinese imports. They just couldn't compete with slave labor prices.
     
  9. Detritus

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    Not quite. in the case of the Carbines only the M-2 and M-3 (M-2 with infrared night scope) were ever full auto.
    ALL M-14 receivers were built as Select-fire capable whether they were ever assembled with a selector rather than selector lock, so therefore all* m14s are and will always be "Machine Guns". with the exceedingly minuscule exception noted below, legally there is no such thing as a Semi-auto "M14"

    * the exception to this are a small number of accurised and marked "National Match" rifles sold into the civilian market for use in service rifle competion decades ago, that were (eventually) given a specific exemption to the "Once, always" rule
     
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  10. Bigdog57

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    They are trying to protect us from all the plethora of violent drive-by shootings using those horrible M1 Garands and M1 Carbines.......
    Uh.....
    Wait....

    Never mind. :scrutiny:
     
  11. HorseSoldier

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    +1. CMP could get into aftermarket sales for M14 and AR components if they wanted to (pretty saturated market as is, though), but as noted for all intents and purposes there are no civilian legal military-issued M14s our there, nor will there be without sweeping changes to federal firearms laws which are highly unlikely.
     
  12. Garrobo

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    Same thng happened

    during Bubba Klinton's administration, including the surplus .45's coming out of S Korea. They were called 'Blue Sky' guns if I remember correctly. Klinton ordered them destroyed. Congress withheld $40,000,000 in funding from the (I think) BATF to put a stop to it. I sold a dozen or so of the M1's and a few of the .45's. They ran out pretty quickly. If I remember correctly the M1's cost me either $235 or $325 (It's been a while and I'm getting up there.) and the .45's cost me $249. Maybe Congress should do the same thing again. After the next election we may see these guns released again.
     
  13. Bexar

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    That's what I'm hoping for.

    I assume an executive order can be overridden by a different president's executive order.

    Congress can vote an override but does the president have to sign it?

    About the time period you mention, Woolworths in downtown Houston was selling the Blue Sky Koreans for $345.00. Several racks were displayed at a time. You could cherry pick one. Some looked like obstacle course training rifles and some were pretty nice. They had carbines too...I think for $245.00.

    I bought a Garand and put one on layaway.

    Alas...I didn't respect what I had and many years later they went to our Daughter's education.

    She made us proud. When I'd heard the new batch were coming over my tail started thumping the floor...then Obama pulls his agenda and throws it up against the wall.

    Oh well...maybe in 2017 for my 63rd birthday. (finger crossed icon here)
     
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    The Clinton edict is what the Obama Administration is relying on for continued prevention of the importation of foreign and domestic surplus firearms onto American Shores.
    Clinton is also responsible for signing the laws that allowed the wanton destruction of hundreds of thousands if not millions of U.S. made government issued taxpayer funded surplus firearms and ammunition.

    A blatant waste of U.S. citizens money as that equipment technically belongs to all of us who do pay taxes and we the people should have first choice and decision as to what happens with this material by law.
     
  15. nathan

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    By order of the New World Order for which Clinton and Bush Sr started to implement in the post cold war era of the 1990s.
     
  16. hso

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    That was an importer and the importer's mark on the firearms.
     
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    I would like to think that those rifles are still sitting in a warehouse somewhere waiting for 2017 to arrive.
     
  19. HexHead

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    The CMP turned them down twice because they were in very poor condition. No loss.
     
  20. Bexar

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    Where did you hear that? I've heard and seen photos that these are still in factory sealed shipping cans, six rifle per can, I believe, that have never been opened.

    Same with 1911-A1s and Carbines.

    Thanks...Bexar
     
  21. nathan

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    THe same lobbyists telling the presidents from G. Bush Sr to Obama that these WW2 rifles pack a punch that can penetrate police body armor like butter. That we have to make sure our LEOs across this country can go home to their families in safety. That its not safe to have these old rifles back in the hands of lawabiding American citizens, period. That these old rifles are no longer needed in a modern America. Why are they keeping these from coming back ? Only one thing comes to mind, these old rifles will only remind, educate and inspire the new generations of Americans how their forefathers fought Nazism , Imperialism , Totalitarianism, Fascism , Communism and Despotism -- and many give n up their very lives . These rifles represent a stand against the forces of evil that wanted to enslave humanity.

    And with the clock ticking , the coming New World Order (Fourth Reich) doesnt want the new generation of Americans to cherish those ideals in fighting for freedom and liberty in our domestic front while at the same time they sent weapons to foreign entities to fight their corporate wars . They wanted us to remain dumb down and ignorant, thats why...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhMlYxPefyQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhMlYxPefyQ
     
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  22. hso

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    Yep, unless Congress passes a law specifically allowing automatic granting of import approvals to these sorts of rifles.
     
  23. Acera

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    The CMP can not have anything to do with them. They only get those guns that are returned to US military control and then released to them. They can not buy/import on their own.

    Those rifles were given to the Koreans, not loaned to them as are the other foreign returns.

    Go to the CMP forums and read what the director has said about this. From day one, they have said they could not, and would not, get any of those rifles.

    The CMP rumors have been propagated by those that don't have a clue what the CMP is.
     
  24. MAKster

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    This issue seems to come up every couple months and the story keeps getting more grand every reiteration. People are now saying these were never used and still in the factory seal. The truth is these guns are the rejects from the last importation from South Korea in the 1980s. These guns will surely be in worse condition that the worst of the Blue Sky imports.
     
  25. Bexar

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    This is what I thought but wasn't sure. Thanks for the clarification.
     
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