Anyone loading 223/5.56 with H 335, 55 gr bullets??

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Rule3, Jan 13, 2015.

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  1. Shooter973

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    I happen to be sitting on 32 pounds of H335. I bought a case of 8pounders of it before "the crazy times" along with a case of 8 pounders of AA2230c that is very similar. The AA2230c doesn't flash nearly as bad as the H335 does. I've been loading the 25gr H335 and 55gr pills for years.
    i do like the 2230c loads better for dim conditions.
    I hate that I saw what would happen when BO got the Presidents office, and acted accordingly. :)
    Both of these powders work great in 308 also.
     
  2. 20yearvet

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    One thing I know for sure - Wolf small rifle magnum part number NCSRM will not work well with H335

    Like many others, I experience about 5-10 percent no-fires and every 4th round or so is a slow-fire (click....bang).

    You should have no problems with WSR or CCI primers.

    Use Wolf primers with IMR4895 and you'll be good to go.
     
  3. Walkalong

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    Interesting. I have not used the Wolf SRM primer with H335 specifically, but have used it with similar ball powders as well as stick powders with no misfires. I could understand if it did not ignite H335 well (SRM is the thick cup, but standard mix) and was not accurate perhaps, but do not understand it not igniting it at all, or even a "hangfire", which I have never experienced at all.

    I do have some H335, and could test it for myself. Interesting.
     
  4. Rule3

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    I use regular Wolf SR primers and CCI and have no issues. Speer manual says they tested with a mag primer. Why I do not know, as Hodgdon doesn't.?
     
  5. BruceB

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    My two .223 rifles both have 20" barrels and 1-in-9" rifling twist. One is an Armalite AR15 and the other is a Whitworth Mini-Mauser.

    The AR wears a Leupold Mark AR sight with a trajectory-compensating feature. The turret is marked, "55 gr @3100 fps". Since my standard load of 25.0/H335 and 55 VMax chronographs at 3097 average, the range-compensation adjustments are very reliable.

    After zeroing the rig properly, setting the turret at "4" gives dead-center hits on a steel IPSC target at 400 yards , right on the point of aim. Excellent!

    I find 3100 from a 20" barrel to be a very satisfactory ball-park to play in, and both rifles shoot the same load very well indeed.
     
  6. wanderinwalker

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    Dang, I go away and now I'm very late to this party!

    Anyway, to the OP, my "standard" .223 bulk-ammo recipe is 24.5gr of H335, a CCI-450 primer and 55gr Hornady FMJBTs seated into the cannelure, between2.22-2.23" OAL if memory serves. Shoots pretty well in my Colt 6920, chronographs at 2840-fps for a 10-round average from a 16" barrel. I won't claim to have worked these up for optimum accuracy, but they will reliably hold a 10" steel plate at 200-yards from prone or sitting (and sometimes offhand! :banghead: ) Oh, and for the record I use mixed range-brass when assembling this load, which is part of the reason I don't tip the powder jug any further.
     
  7. Walkalong

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    Very good point. My plinking/blasting ammo load with 55 Gr FMJs is safe with any weight brass I might encounter. For years I have used a surplus powder I bought cheap and the cheapest 55 Gr FMJ bullets. It only shoots decently, but it's cheap. These days the better 55 Gr FMJ isn't that much more than the bad ones, and you can also sometimes find better bullets (HP, SP, Poly Tip) cheaper than 55 Gr FMJ. When you can jump on it, and pay a little more attention to the charge for accuracy sake.

    There is no real point to trying for max velocity on a plinker load you will be using mixed brass in.
     
  8. Rule3

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    I increased the load by .5 grain to 24.5. So I should now be getting 1/2 groups at 100 yards!:D

    I will try them out next range trip,

    Thanks
     
  9. tcoz

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    More people use H335 than any other powder for 223/5.56 and I think the majority load between 24.0 and 24.5gr
     
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