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Anyone run XS Big Dot Sights on a Glock?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Averageman, Apr 30, 2012.

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  1. Averageman

    Averageman Member

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    Anyone run XS Big Dot Sights on a Glock?
    INital impressions, any issues, tips or techniques?
     
  2. Hangingrock

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    Yes I had a set on a Glock G21. I was not displeased or pleased rather ho-hum. The front sight is major plus but the shallow-V rear sight in my opinion was the ho-hum part of the equation. I must allow that others praise the system and it works for them exceptionally.

    I thought the ideal combination would be the Big-Dot front sight with a 10-8 U-Notch rear sight but 10-8 does not make a sight notch width that is compatible with the Big-Dot front sight.
     
  3. Sheepdog1968

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    I really like the XS sights and I tried a bunch of sight systems before I settled on them. If I recall correctly, a 3/16th notch in a rear sight is what you need if you want a normal rear sight. Call XS and ask. They are very helpful on the phone. Great customer service.
     
  4. camsdaddy

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    I didn't like them the first year or so. Of course I was over thinking them. Since I have begun to focus on the front sight and press they are awesome.
     
  5. REAPER4206969

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    Once you learn to use them, they are spectacular.

    They are on my CCW 23.
     
  6. camsdaddy

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    No doubt I knew what I was supposed to do I just didn't. I spent a lot of time trying to figure out exactly where the front and rear sight should intersect. Once I forgot about the rear sight the bullet just started going where I wanted it. Like most thing I was over thinking.
     
  7. Averageman

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    I have them on my G17 and shot Sunday, a little practise lots of moving and shooting.
    I'm not real happy as I tended to throw everything rather low on the target. I will give them another try before setting them aside for a future G26 purchase.
     
  8. Shawn Dodson

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    I've had XS Big Dot tritium sights installed on my Glock 19s for over a decade. I prefer them over 3-dot sights and conventional sights. I wasn't sure I liked them at first. It took a couple of hundred rounds to get used to them - but after I gained experience I found them to be fast to visually acquire and accurate to shoot with.

    I also have XS Big Dot tritium sights on my Remington 870.

    Tips or techniques? Just follow sight alignment/sight picture instructions from XS and you'll be good to go. See - http://xssights.com/index.php?nID=help&cID=Help/Videos&pID=help&sID=images
     
  9. Dan-O

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    I have em on a G22, G23, and G36. I also have em on a couple of custom carry revilolvers of mine.
     
  10. shrewd

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    i recently training with a guy who let me try out his g19, similarly equiped with the big dot and v notch


    i have to say, in a close range defensive firearm...i really dug it. if i could put them on my own carry gun i would.

    i almost want to put them on my full size range gun (cz75bd) but cant bring myself too
     
  11. Averageman

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    Putting the stock sights back on as I type.
     
  12. marinetowgunner

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    Not on a glock but I do run them on an fullsize h&k usp and a kahr pm9. I've always liked the combat-dot sight type system. I guess learning to shoot pistol on the M9 contributed to that?
     
  13. gunnutery

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    I've been considering using the standard dot and v notch on my G22. I have Glock night sights now, but I haven't been shooting very well with it lately. Actually I think I've always had an issue with the three dot set up. I tend to think the xs system might make it a little simpler since you'd basically be lining up two dots in line with each other in stead of three.
     
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    One of the Glock short falls is their sights, I learned this doing a boot drill that sheared off the rear sight on a G17. The XS tritium sights work well enough and they are stronger than the factory sights for those who practice one handed drills.

    I typically train with a lot of movement and focus on the target rather than the front sight out to about 10-12 yards, but the XS sights align quickly when used.
     
  15. Averageman

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    I found the oversized front sight to be,...well; Oversized.
    I dont think you can accurately shoot at distance or speed without relearning the whole process.
    I'm not knocking them, some folks I would assume like them; but I must ask, is the time and effort really worth it?
     
  16. Sgt_R

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    I didn't like them on my G22 or G27. I sold the G27 with the sights installed, and the new owner seemed to like them pretty well. The G22 still wears the Big Dot, but only because I don't shoot it much, and haven't bothered to change them.

    My go-to handguns all wear Warren Tactical Sevigny Carry sights or a Trijicon RMR RM02 with suppressor BUIS.

    R
     
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    Had them, and hear is a brief summary of my feelings:

    1. Yes, they work.
    2. No, they aren't faster than conventional sights. If they were as great as the marketing team claims, every IDPA competitor out there would run a set.
    3. They DO work at distance once you get the hang of them.
    4. You'll spend quite a bit of practice time (and money) learning how to use the sights and getting to the same level of proficiency that you already were at.
    5. Yep, they cover small targets at distance. Highly annoying if you like shooting small metal plates. Doable, but not as fun.
    6. Most importantly...anything big dots can do, a set of sights with a wide rear notch and highly visible, narrow front post can do better and faster without requiring you to spend time getting the hang of them.

    Had them, satisfied but never will buy another set. I prefer warrent tactical sevigny carry with a tritium front post or fiber optic post, depending on the use. My rears are always all black with no dots.
     
  18. Shawn Dodson

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    Not if one follows XS's sight alignment/sight picture instructions - which I didn't at first. My initial frustration vanished instantly the moment I began following instructions. Shooters who fire my Glock 19s, and who have zero experience with XS Big Dot sights, don't have any problem getting good hits - I briefly instruct them about proper sight alignment/sight picture before they shoot.

    Videos demonstrating proper XS sight alignment/sight picture:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQVCeJ103BQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY5RURFEGd8

    This has not been my experience because "at distance" the front sight does not cover small targets if you actually follow XS's sight alignment/sight picture instructions.

    I find 3-dot sights to be visually "too busy" and slower compared to XS sights, especially in low light conditions.

    That narrow front sight may be harder to see as quickly in low light conditions.
     
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    Guess it is debatable. :) I had an adjustment period while shooting on the move or shooting from cover at odd angles.

    Don't know what to tell you. My g19 didn't hit 4" plates at 25+ yards unless I put the dot over the plate. Something I NEED to do frequently? Probably not, but it's something I enjoy so I'd prefer my defensive pistol do that.

    Me too. But in low light, I prefer just the tritium dot up front or at most a straight 8 set of heinies. I don't like 3 dots period. :)

    Never proved to be a problem. I acquire it just as fast as that big honkin dot. When I punch out, I see the sight and can fire as soon as my support hand is in place, I don't spend time searching for the thin post in daylight, darkness or near darkness. On the 4 count draw, the slowest part of it is me...not finding my sight. :)

    I just feel that the big dot doesn't make me any faster or better in any way. I always felt like I was doing my job in spite of an over-sized dot. The only time I see them being beneficial over other good sights is when you have poor vision.

    Looking at it from what you're saying, I might would say they're ok. But I have a few pistols I shoot and compete with, so I try to keep the sights consistent. Compared side by side with the heinies I had on a g19 and the big dots on another g19 that I owned at the same time, I just always scored better with the heinie equipped pistol. I sold the one with the XS and never saw enough benefit to justify the price versus a set of heinie or warren sevigny sights (I don't get the tritium in the rear, so I save money). I perform better with those after trying the XS for around 1000 rounds, so I saw no real reason to stick to big dots when I perform better with a plain black rear and a thin front in all conditions.
     
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    Agree with ForumSurfer.

    Had them on 19/23s, but now run Warren Tactical on my primaries.

    Having said that, I have a Beretta Tomcat (AlleyCat varient) set up with a big dot front that I really like....bury the dot COM and squeeze. It shoots minute of A zone for me out to 15 yards, but not conducive to precision shooting for me beyond that.
    YMMV
     
  21. saltydog452

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    I like them.

    I have some vision problems, tri-focals, and can use the Ashley sights passably well while looking through either, or no, focal window.

    salty
     
  22. jp3

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    I struggled with them on my G36. Even when I finally figured out the sight pattern I was still inconsistent. I did like how quick that front dot was to acquire though; especially with my aging eyes.

    Would I install them on my Baer? No
     
  23. hentown

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    Tried 'em. Didn't like 'em.
     
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    What the hell? Have you got three hands or something?
     
  25. DougW

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    Big Dot 24/7's on all 5 of my Glocks. Quick, accurate for me, works well in practice or competition for me.
     
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