Anyone see San Francisco SWAT?

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I was watching the Military Channel and they had a 1hr special called San Francisco SWAT. As a cop, I was naturally interested. It started out about the weapons and tactics and the need for a SWAT team in a big city. Then it took a downward spiral.

The first incident focused on an office shooting that took place in 1993 at 101 California St in downtown SF. A disgruntled businessman took two Tec-9's and a .45 to the building killing six and wounding 8. Now...it went down hill as the narrator stated the following.

"45 millimeter pistol"
"Tec-9 assault rifles"

Then they interviewed the husband of one of the victims (RIP). But he went on about the availabilty of guns with "100rd clips" and spray fire from the hip. Then the show spent more time interviewing a newspaper reporter from an SF paper. The availability of guns was focused on for about 10 mins of the show...

I know its nothing to get my panties in a twist over. But it just astounds me how it managed to get squeezed into a SWAT show on the Military Channel. Thankfully the rest of the show focused on police stuff.

I just wanna know if anyone else saw, and gagged, over parts of that show.
 
Then the show spent more time interviewing a newspaper reporter from an SF paper.
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This really turns me off on a show. They have no "facts" to add, so they fill time interviewing someone who was not there but has second-hand stories to tell.
 
I saw it... I caught the part about calling the Tec-9 an assault rifle. I'm surprised when they showed a little 10 second clip of it in action that it didn't jam up. Maybe they did a couple takes of it.

Then they showed a room where they confiscated a bunch of "deadly assault rifles", and there were a bunch of SKS's on the wall.
 
All I want to know is, where can I get some of those cheap and easy 45-millimeter pistols at?

And it's really bad that these sorts of uninformed fairyland biased opinions are labeled as "journalism", because many, many people in our country don't have any real exposure to firearms and don't know any better than to just believe everything they hear.
It's on the TeeVee, must be true right?

I was very disappointed in a close friend of mine when I showed him my AR, he grew up around guns in some ways but still I caught him thinking that my AR was some sort of automated bullet hose.
 
I overheard a conversation in the cafeteria at school yesterday. Some kid had a shirt with the image of a bandoleer on it with bullets that looked something like 12 gauge shotgun cartridges. One of his friends asked it what gun those are for. He said, it's probably for an AK-47. Oh, the ignorance...
 
Last 45mm gun I saw was on a WWII light tank. Not a real concealable piece.
Did you write to the producers of the show to complain about thier mistake? Probably won'tdo much, but as the old saying goes, can't hurt to try.
 
I've noticed all the SWAT shows on there lately. Though it's an interesting subject in itself, when I turn on the Military Channel I'm not interested in watching shows about domestic police operations.

And what's the hold up with that channel going HD? Get it done already!
 
I overheard a conversation in the cafeteria at school yesterday. Some kid had a shirt with the image of a bandoleer on it with bullets that looked something like 12 gauge shotgun cartridges. One of his friends asked it what gun those are for. He said, it's probably for an AK-47. Oh, the ignorance...
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Maybe his dad has a Saiga 12 and he thinks that "AK-47s" shoot 12 gauge shells? :scrutiny: Or maybe he is a stupid little kid who will shoot his friend the first time he ever touches a gun because his parents refused to educate him?:banghead:



PS - Long time lurker, first time poster, great to be here. People over at XDTalk would always link THR, so I figured it was about time to make an appearance.
 
These shows interested me at first. Apparently, though, there's not enough action in any one place to make a show that's actually about SWAT... they fill their air-time with individual family drama, stupid staged bits of humor (or drama). Half the show is them riding around looking cool, hanging out the side of their swat van... until they go to commercials. Very little real action, very little tactical stuff... mostly soap opera for middle aged men, from what I can see. Oh, and I can't believe the amount of ignorance about guns they portray... makes me sick too.

Ps: Welcome, Scott. THR is THE place to be :cool:
 
I've noticed all the SWAT shows on there lately. Though it's an interesting subject in itself, when I turn on the Military Channel I'm not interested in watching shows about domestic police operations.
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+1, too bad the difference between the two is becoming less and less defined. I hate all these new "SWAT" and "DEA" type shows, they glorify the police state.
 
I have noticed the proliferation of cop shows of late. Its cheap to do those kind of "reality" shows, and the public seems to watch them, so I suspect even more of them will be foisted on us.

Dancing With the Stars is now on like 3 hours a week. As cheap as something like that is to produce, and the kind of ratings it has, I see no end in sight for reality TV.

I occasionally watch some of the Cops show. Mostly you see nothing at all, until after everything is over. Then all the cops try to make themselves look tough, or smart, or whatever they think is cool that day. I got a kick out of a Sgt the other day. He showed up at a disturbance and after it was over he said the same thing like three times within a minute. I guess he thought it was cool enough to make it worthwhile to repeat a couple of times.

Its very obvious that the cops they are riding with are spending most of their time preening for the camera, and very little doing police work.

Sometimes the cops look like decent human beings, and sometimes they make themselves look really bad. I wonder if any of the police executives that approve these things realize that as often as not they make themselves look really bad. I suspect they do not realize just how bad they look to average citizens sometimes.
 
There was a show called Dallas SWAT and I think it was on Discovery. I only watched it a couple times the last time I watched they were talking about how they have to get AK-47s off the street.
 
There was a show called Dallas SWAT and I think it was on Discovery. I only watched it a couple times the last time I watched they were talking about how they have to get AK-47s off the street.
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well of course, you can't just leave a perfectly good gun lying the way of traffic!
 
The San Francisco incident was the famous "101 California St. killings" and directly resulted in Black Talon bullets getting pulled as a retail ammunition (which actually increased demand and recognition.)

These killings also directly resulted in the strict Assault Weapons Ban that we have here in CA.
 
Houw many hours of footage do you think is filmed for an episode of cops or one of those SWAT shows? Now how many minutes actually make it into the show?

Who decides what goes in and what gets cut? I've give you a hint. It's not the cops.
 
I caught the interview with the husband of the first woman killed in the Law Office. He was talking about the Tec 9 being very accurate and the mfg making it with a finger print resistant coating in order to market the gun to criminals.
 
Never seen that one, but I'm a fan of I think its the Discovery Channel?'s "Detroit SWAT" and Dallas and K.C. SWAT as well. They didn't go too far into detail, but there were some interesting scenes including two cops having a shoot off to see who gets to use a certain name for their rifle :D
 
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