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Anything new in shower stall mount holsters?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Holsters and Accessories' started by Tallbald, Apr 2, 2014.

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  1. Tallbald

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    Not sure if this would be better posted in the Tactics and Training section, so posted this here as a holster question.
    Here in my home town last fall there was a shooting wherein as a man exited the shower stall he was attacked by an intruder. Talk about being caught with your pants down. This got me to thinking about the practicality of a wall mounted holster right inside the shower stall for quick easy access in a usually vulnerable section of one's home.
    I'm confident that in a shower stall, a stainless steel weapon would be best for corrosion resistance. I also would be inclined to use a revolver rather than a semi-auto. Not to start a flame, but soap scum risks and stray hairs could I think affect reliability in an auto, while the leverage provided by the hammer of a single action or even a double action could help overcome calcium build-up issues. Regular cleaning and maintenance would be critical for reliable function of any tactical shower weapon. Another option might be a simple two shot derringer-style weapon. Thoughts appreciated.
    Kydex, which I believe is waterproof, would I think be preferable to leather for the holster due to moisture. My concern is mounting technique. Although I hate the idea of drilling a fiberglass stall wall (we don't have a tub, or ceramic tile in the master bathroom), I'd hate to rely on even the large suction cups I see securing soap trays, washcloth racks and the like. And the heavy duty suction cups meant for industrial applications are usually black which does not complement decor, a big factor in selection).
    Ammunition choice involves other issues I think about. I have considered a lacquer-based coating or some military style coating that would effectively seal the cartridge against the heat and moisture laden environment, and the penetration of the better brands of body wash and protein-enriched shampoos. With the concerns of sudsy waters dripping downward, I myself would be quite concerned that if suds were to collect and dry at the business end of individual cartridges, the hollow point of self defense ammo would effectively become filled and ineffective in promoting expansion. I'd rather not rely on solid point projectiles because of over-penetration risks.
    After reviewing in my mind the possible scenarios involving my at-risk behavior needed while bathing, I've come to realize that there are just times I cannot cover every possibility. The extreme approaches I have seen posted on some forums addressing vulnerability while dealing with personal hygiene (tiny .22 caliber revolvers kept rolled up in several layers of toilet tissue, allowing one to ask an intruder for a moment to finish, then unwinding paper allowing the revolver to drop into your hand "on the sly") are more caution than I'm willing to take.
    All thoughts appreciated. Don
     
  2. rcmodel

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    I can't think of a much more hostile environment for storing a gun then inside a shower stall.

    The only possible way I can think of for a gun to survive would be sealed inside a water & air-proof container of some sort.

    Tupper-Ware food storage containers come to mind first.
    With a desiccant pack kept from any contact with the gun.

    Then if you Ever pop the lid seal in the wet shower?

    Get it out of there, and clean it, and make sure it, the container, and the desiccant pack are completely dried out again.

    rc
     
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  3. leadcounsel

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    Only mildly serious conversation here...

    But I'm envisioning two basic scenarios.

    1) You are in the shower and are alerted to an intruder in your home (alarm, dog, crashing noise...). Probably takes all of 3 seconds to step out of the shower, walk to the nearest counter/dresser where you have your trusty sidearm concealed under a towel, pick up the phone, dial 911, and put on your pants.

    2) You are in the shower and are surprised when the Boogyman attacks you in the shower. Scenario 2 - you won't have time to open a container to draw your gun. If you are that concerned about this situation, you need to revert back to scenario 1 and get an alarm. However, if you must put a weapon in the shower, I would vacuum seal a 5" Kbar style fighting knife, and hang it in your shower. Preserved from rust, instant self defense, and I bet you could probably grab it by the handle and thrust it to defend yourself and it would cut right through the vacuum seal. Much faster and more effective in a wrestling match. Alternately, possibly a small 'tire kicker' style club, made out of a strong non-rot and non-rust material, like a baton or something.
     
  4. Tirod

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    Water tight camping box, Command adhesive tapes, and a link: http://www.prepper-resources.com/diy-15-shower-gun-box/

    As for stepping out of the shower with no clue, can't help there. Apparently home security was zilch, someone could just walk in without making any noise at all? Doors weren't locked, what locks were used were easily manipulated or next to glass openings, someone else opened the door instead of checking who knocked?

    If an intruder can be standing in the bathroom while the resident is blissfully ignorant they wandered in, there are much more serious problems with security and access than a gun in the shower is going to fix.

    Hopefully it's a great time to pour a pitcher of ice water on them. :evil: Ah, the memories.
     
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    Cousin worked up north on the Alaska pipeline, was a chef. Previous chef was mauled by a bear. He bought a raging bull 454. It stayed in a shoulder holster hung from a hook on the back of the door next to the shower. Gun survived well enough as he was scared of bears and cleaned it and oiled it regularly. Only damage was from banging it against the trash hopper when flinging trash in.
     
  7. bainter1212

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    The Ka bar idea is a good one. Nobody attacking you in the shower will expect that.

    Put it in a ziplock bag and hang it from a shower hook. You can still use the knife without removing it from the bag.
     
  8. ColtPythonElite

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    Just lock the bathroom door.
     
  9. Ron James

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    or, don't bother to shower, then no one will want to get close to you, anytime.:evil:
     
  10. Combat Engineer

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    Haven't taken a shower in 30 years.

    Prefer a bath... have a 1930s claw foot bathtub. The bathtub is the way to go, enameled cast iron. Trays on either side, keep a 1911 on each. Very relaxing soak.

    Recall an infamous shower murder incident, the 1982 homicide of W. Hartmann, who upon exiting his shower was shot by his wife's lover. Police found Mr. Hartmann shot 5 times in the head, 8 times in the chest, and once in the scrotum, all bullets 45 ACP.

    "Hours later, she (Mrs. Hartmann) comes into the Northbrook Police Department and says her husband committed suicide," detectives did not buy her story. [Chicago Tribune, Nov 23, 1989]
     
  11. Tallbald

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    Interesting and thought provoking responses all. I thank each of you. It seems to me that had Janet Leigh in 1960's Hitchcock classic thriller "Psycho" given tactical bathing preparation some thoughts she may not have ended up with the world getting a close-up view of her eyeball. I sure don't plan on that happening to me. I think I'll study up on "nude knife fighting techniques" and practice at the range occasionally,wet down and sudsy while in the buff. Can't be too prepared. Don.
     
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    Brilliant, Simple, Quick, and even better, lock the front door too!

    be safe
     
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    I am blessed with a natural defense when stepping out of the shower. One of two possibilities will happen. The bad guy will either be frozen with terror, or be laughing so hard he can't get off the floor. Either way, I will have plenty of time to make it to the night stand.
     
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    Or you could take a big No. 2 before your shower. The toxic gases will stop any attacker.
     
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    if your woried grab you a fixed blade knife
    make the blade a lil bit dull if the boogy man atempts to grab you evan if you dont stick him right that dull point will keep him in enough pain to not want to fight to hard
     
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    You have got to be kidding. Install good locks on the exterior and bathroom door , lock them when you shower, when traveling don't stay at the Bates Motel and don't insult Norman's mother.
     
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    I could rig up a kydex holster that would hang upside down from the shower head or curtain rod.
     
  18. rcmodel

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    Tactical Soap-On-A-Rope? :D

    rc
     
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    If you use a glock you will be fine, plastic don't rust, Thats about as "tactical on a rope as you can get.:neener:
     
  20. Sol

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    How about a zany "Home Alone" inspired trap that involves your shower and a hair dryer or radio?
     
  21. Field Tester

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    http://murderpedia.org/female.H/h/hartmann-debra.htm

    CE, thanks for bringing this up and making me research this!
    I believe this is the murder you're talking about.
    This is the first murder with a NFA Machinegun that I've ever found beyond that police officer one.
     
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    Tallbald,

    I always love your posts. You never fail to deliver.
     
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    I take it back. I can't find anything saying it was a properly tax stamped machine gun.
    Guess that just leaves that cop who killed his wife.
     
  24. CWL

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    I think that a Remington Marine Magnum stoked with 3" magnum loads propped in the corner ought to work for your needs.

    Or you could hang it from the shower curtain rod.

    [​IMG]
     
  25. MIL-DOT

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    Unless I knew that I was on a Cartel hit-list, I wouldn't even consider taking a pistol into the shower with me. I'd say that's paranoia bordering on stupidity, not to mention criminal negligence (of an innocent firearm:D).
    I do always lock the door just so no one can walk right up on me, and if I'm alone in the house, I'll often take a pistol in the bathroom with me, and lay it on the counter with a T-shirt over it.
    But that's about as far as I'm going.
     
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