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Discussion in 'Activism' started by camsdaddy, Jun 19, 2011.

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  1. BBQLS1

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    Are we talking about boycotting all of applebees? I read the reply letter:

    If they so desire? Not a corporate policy to ban guns, but to allow a business owner (fanchise owner) to ban guns. IMO you should be boycotting that store and not the company as a whole.
     
  2. oneounceload

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    No issue in FL either - just don't sit at the bar
     
  3. NavyLCDR

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    I've open carried in several Applebee's locations in different towns in Washington. No signs, no issues.
     
  4. The Lone Haranguer

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    It might not be a corporate policy. Most such chain restaurants are franchises. In that case your beef is with the franchise owner.
     
  5. Six

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    Nevermind
     
  6. langenc

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    Have not seen a sign at our local outlet. Have not been there lately as I misplaced my gift card.

    I would let em know why I refuse to go there(to any store, food or etc) when that becomes the case.
     
  7. elano

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    Thanks for the heads up. I too will not visit applebees anymore, since I live in the area. The fact that the store owner is fine with criminals bringing guns in (everyone knows criminals don't play by the rules), but not legal permit holders just makes me feel uneasy. I feel like such sign is an invitation for crime since the criminal knows there will be no opposition.

    Shame because my girlfriend loves their low calorie meals. They have lost 2 customers, my girlfriend also carrys a concealed pistol.
     
  8. General Geoff

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    I was once asked to leave an Applebee's because I was open carrying. I sent a complaint to their regional director's office and they apologized, stated it was not their policy to disallow lawfully carried firearms in their establishments, and he sent me a $25 gift certificate as compensation for being asked to leave previously.


    So yeah, I think this is really hit & miss depending on region/state.
     
  9. littlebubba

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    My apologies if I missed it, but I don't believe we've yet determined how Applebee's is organized. It could be, as was stated in an earlier post, that this is a franchise operation which would mean that the respective franchise owner is responsible for the anti-gun policies. In light of that possibility we really don't know with whom we should be registering our protests. I can't speak to the policies of my local Applebee's locations as I can't recall the last time I set foot in one. If we're dealing with a corporate policy then a letter campaign may be appropriate; if we're dealing with franchises then that protest would certainly have to take place on a local level. Just my two cents worth.
     
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    They are franchises that are owned by an individual or individuals but the corporate office can still make them change their rules and policies if it's going to bring the corporate name, in this case Applebee's, bad publicity.
     
  11. oneounceload

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    A CHAIN is corporate owned; FRANCHISES are individually owned

    Have we successfully determined whether Applebee's is a chain or franchise? A franchise does not ALWAYS have to follow the home office - we've seen that enough with McD's and others when they run specials - "at participating locations";

    IF they are a corporate chain, then that is different
     
  12. Sam1911

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    On their website, they describe themselves as franchise-based with the average franchisee owning about 10 locations.

    'Course, they also describe themselves as one of the nation's leading casual dining chains, so ...?
     
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    i have chosen only to read the first few posts, i dont feel like gettting in an argument. good job with the letters, i will not be eating at applebees. thank you
     
  14. animator

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    In Texas, even if they have a "no guns" sign, it's not illegal to carry one concealed inside the establishment. If they suspect you are carrying, all they can do is ask you to leave.

    The only way any non 51% establishment can legally deny the right to carry a concealed weapon is by posting 30.06.
     
  15. whalerman

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    Good discussion about a meaningful topic. Isn't it time we locked it?
     
  16. tangomike706

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    Was in the Scranton/Dickson City PA area today , and specifically looked for these signs at said location . I didn't see them . I have since, sent a letter to Applebees asking them to clarify if it is in fact company policy. I'll update whenever or if ever, I receive a response .
     
  17. jahwarrior

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    nice to see another local. i didn't see any signs, either, which is why i went in. i knowingly risked getting asked to leave by mall sedurity, though. the Viewmont Mall isn't posted, either, but they don't allow guns inside, as per their policy. Applebee's leased a space in the mall, so mall security doesn't have "jurisdiction" inside. :rolleyes:

    next time you're in the area, drop me a line here.
     
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    We do not eat at Applebees for reasons not relevant here. I will however stop by my local Applebees and see if they have a sign. If there is a sign I will send them a letter. However if I do that and they correct their policy then I feel morally obligated to patronize them at least once.:barf:

    Some times you have to suck one up for the team.

    Shawn
     
  19. hso

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    I have one suggestion for improvement when sending a letter of this nature.

    I would instead say that customers with valid state issued carry permits are not allowed in the establishment unless they leave their firearms unsecured in their vehicles in the parking lot, since the issue is our rights and not an inanimate object.
     
  20. hso

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    A number of posts debating the issue of property rights vs. the 2A right were removed since this is not a debate/discussion forum. That discussion would be appropriate for Activism Discussion.

    Summary -

    Albany, GA Applebee's franchise posted no gun owner sign (not Applebee's Corporate Policy).

    Many Applebee's do not post no gun owner signs.

    In at least one case Applebee's Corp has incited a particular franchise owner to have such signs removed when letter writing campaign came to their attention.

    Lessons Learned - Identify the owner of the business that has posted the "carry permit holders not welcome sign" and focus on them.
     
  21. littlebubba

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    hso,

    Correct me if I'm wrong but this discussion WAS in the 'Activism' category. This seems to be the appropriate place for gun rights advocates to have a discussion regarding how to handle situations such as this when they are encountered. I'm new to THR so forgive me if I'm misunderstanding.
     
  22. Sam1911

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    We have split the Activism forum and you'll notice that there is an "Activism Discussion" sub-forum.

    The primary Activism forum is for telling folks what to do, and how to do it. We ask that this forum be limited to the execution of solid efforts to make a certain legislative (or commercial in this case) push.

    We ask that if there are counter-proposals, debates about how to achieve something, debates about whether the goal or the action is appropriate, and the process of constructing an effort all be held in the "Activism Discussion" sub-forum to keep the main Activism forum clear for efforts that are established and underway.

    See HERE.

    And a few highlights from that sticky:
     
  23. littlebubba

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    Gotcha, Sam1911! Thanks for the info.
     
  24. roadliner

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    Nothing in IA. But to tell the truth, I don't really think about looking for the signs. Just before Iowa loosened the restrictions on carry permits this year, some pundits, thought it would be Dodge City or armageddon and stores would be posting all over the place. As all of you know after years of this reaction, nothing has happened and life is normal. It's the same anti 2nd amendment hype. I think most businesses went to a "wait and see" mode if they thought about it at all.
     
  25. Tape

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    send a letter and a picture of the sign if possible to the NRA, they have mentioned that if a business infringes on our gun rights they want to hear about it, but if they serve alcohol then that's really Applebee’s point
     
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