ar-15 backlogs

[dakotasin]

anybody know what ar-15 manufacturers/assemblers have caught up w/ their backlogs?

specifically, i am looking for a lightweight (20" pencil barrel) complete upper, and want to place an order, but don't want it sitting in backorder status forever.

thanks for any help!

 

[mp5a3]

I've heard a lot of manufacterers (sp) are still filling orders from December, but who knows. If that's the case then we're pretty far from the shortage being over.

It almost seems we need a name for it .. "The great gun and ammo shortage of 2008-2009"

 

[c5_nc]

JT is suppost to be the shortest average weight ~2-3 months of the kit companies. Many manufactors are caught up, you would be buying from a dealer not a manufactor so not sure why this is a concern for you, just find what is instock at local dealers or online retailers. The model you seek is one of the lowest demand items, most of demand is for midlenghts and M4s, then carbines after that. 20"ers are slow sellers unless its a varmint setup.

 

[hags]

I can tell you that LMT is still months out.
Most others have caught up.

 

[lipadj46]

There are going to be a bunch of cancelled orders so I would just bide my time and keep your eyes open on the usual sites and gunbroker.

 

[mp5a3]

Why would people cancel their orders ? Perhaps they don't feel an AWB is a pressing issue ?

 

[hags]

I haven't cancelled anything and I don't mind sitting on inventory. You know sooner rather than later it's coming.
After healthcare and cap and trade guns will be in the news again.

 

[SHvar]

I was told that there was a 6-9 month wait several months ago with Bushmaster, then reduced later to 5-6 months, when I ordered my GP upper I was told to expect 3-5 months, when the email showed up that it was shipping it was only days later, I got it 2 weeks after I ordered it.
I think there isnt a long wait now, or the wait was far over estimated by all companies. Even LMT said 2-3 months around the time I ordered (one company I contacted and looked at their GP rifles).

 

[mcdonl]

Parts are hard to get but whole new guns seem plentyful. Around here anyway.

 

[mp5a3]

I'm looking for a Bolt and Carrier, still hard to find

 

[lipadj46]

Why would people cancel their orders ?

Maybe the economy? It's easy to place an order for a $1200 rifle you will buy in 8 months but now that those orders are coming up? We will see.

Perhaps they don't feel an AWB is a pressing issue ?

Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf? That little trick worked once to get people all stirred up. Next time it will take more than gunshop talk and interweb babble to get people out there buying like we just saw. Sure there are people in DC who want a ban but there are many who will fight it too. Once Obabma get's done with healthcare and cap and trade he will have zero chance of pushing through an AWB. Once people really get a handle on what a multi trillion dollar budget deficit means (yes China literally owns the USA) there is going to be a bit of a backlash I believe.

Of course that is my $.02 some people did and will profit from another big panic spree so it is always prudent to fact check where your info is coming from.

 

[winknplink]

Agree with Mcdonl. My local store (central Ky) is keeping between 20-30 complete rifles in stock at all times and has been for a month or better. Lowers, kits, uppers...all there too.

FWIW, what they don't have are AR optic and buis options.

 

[hags]

Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf? That little trick worked once to get people all stirred up. Next time it will take more than gunshop talk and interweb babble to get people out there buying like we just saw. Sure there are people in DC who want a ban but there are many who will fight it too. Once Obabma get's done with healthcare and cap and trade he will have zero chance of pushing through an AWB. Once people really get a handle on what a multi trillion dollar budget deficit means (yes China literally owns the USA) there is going to be a bit of a backlash I believe.

Can a country go bankrupt? Sure can!!!!!

I gotta disagree with this whole statement. The panic wasn't started by gunshops or on the internet.

He's on a roll and will have an easier chance of an AWB. None of these issues will finish as they have started.

I believe this administration will try other tactics. The whole frog in the pot of boiling water analogy comes to ming.

 

[kimbernut]

mp5a3

Check Anvil Arms they are supposed to be manufacturing their own and have available 7/27. I was there yesterday- impressive!

 

[winknplink]

Mp5A3, here are some Bolt assy's

 

[MJR007]

Del-ton is on the first week of Jan.

Midway has some uppers in stock.

 

[c5_nc]

I think people will be canceling orders soon. I just got in a DPMS kit and put in trader forum for a tiny markup over my wholesale cost and no bits so far. There is a 6-12 month backlong from DPMS for the same parts. I made retail orders from model1 and delton in January, I am going to be cancelling those.

 

[lipadj46]

I gotta disagree with this whole statement. The panic wasn't started by gunshops or on the internet.

Well we can agree to disagree then.

 

[Smithiac]

I've heard that Les Baer is fairly cought up. Don't know if its true or not though.

 

[armoredman]

As a matter of fact, I got an advertisement from Rob Roy's Custom Guns in Mesa for a sale on DPMS ARs, I guess they are catching up. All of those were listed under $1000 by a bit.

 

[punkndisorderly]

FWIW, I ordered 2 AR-15 uppers from Rock River in early January. The first, a match upper, came in June. The second, an CAR style upper came in in 2 weeks ago.

 

[DougW]

A M4'gery kit that I ordered on Dec 31, 08 went to the shop (Del-Ton) last week, but hasn't shipped out yet. Last kit took 7 months, so lead times are still long. Del-Ton is still worth the wait IMO.

The rush to buy AR's was started at the election and change of power to a socialist form of government. People figure that the 2nd Amendment will go away first, followed by the 1st, then the 5th, and finally the 10th. (Political rant off!)

Love the service and quality from Del-Ton!

 

[W.E.G.]

Colt galore.

 

[Boba Fett]

Skip the backlog and go to a show.

They had RRA Entry Tactical for $900 at today's show. Which is $100 more than I paid for it a few years back at the same show, but way less than the $1,300 to $1,400 I've seen as of late.


Same goes for the uppers and lowers. They had most types and brands and prices were reasonable again.

Remember the story about the boy who cried wolf? That little trick worked once to get people all stirred up. Next time it will take more than gunshop talk and interweb babble to get people out there buying like we just saw. Sure there are people in DC who want a ban but there are many who will fight it too. Once Obabma get's done with healthcare and cap and trade he will have zero chance of pushing through an AWB. Once people really get a handle on what a multi trillion dollar budget deficit means (yes China literally owns the USA) there is going to be a bit of a backlash I believe.

I have to say that it wasn't gunshops or the internet that cause all the fuss. It was basic supply and demand. There wasn't a fabricated hysteria, there was a past history that actually happened and people didn't want to get caught with their pants down in the middle of another ban.

So whether or not there is zero chance or 100% chance, being prepared based on past history (ya know, learn or repeat?) is never a bad thing. Some of us were just prepared sooner than the rest and avoided the supply shortage.

 

[mp5a3]

I may just go for the LMT Defender or Colt 6920, both at $1199. I can't imagine them going much lower.