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AR-15 what is it good for?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by bigman9828, Dec 20, 2006.

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  1. bigman9828

    bigman9828 Member

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    hey iam new here and i was hearing alot of talk about these ar-15 and there starting to grow on me now. so i woundering if they were mainly for self defence or can you go hunting with them if so what kind of game can you take down with them

    ps idk if this has been asked but i just joined almost 5 mins ago so sorry in advanced;)
     
  2. DMK

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    I keep mine for home defense.

    They are extremely accurate, are lightweight and have practically no recoil so they also make great target rifles or rifles for those who are recoil sensitive like children or slight women.

    I don't hunt, but they are certainly good to take down coyotes, dangerous stray dogs or other midsize pests.

    Oh and welcome to THR! :)
     
  3. blackhawk2000

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    What is it good for? Everything....literally.
     
  4. IDriveB5

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    Most people use them for target and home defense.
    Most states do not allow .223 for deer hunting, but there are a couple.
     
  5. CB900F

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    Bigman;

    Remember, there is no reason why you should have to justify ownership of any particular make, model, style, or caliber of firearm to anybody.

    That being said, there are Federal laws on the books that are enforced that do regulate some firearms, such as fully automatic examples. Those laws aside, the first paragraph holds true.

    If the second amendment is ever properly enforced, the second paragraph becomes obsolete.

    900F
     
  6. RNB65

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    Target shooting and home defense are my primary uses. .223/5.56mm ammo is fairly cheap and they're fun to shoot.
     
  7. treebeard

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    Wicked fun to shoot and reload. Pretty accurate too!;) ;)
     
  8. GoRon

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    It is a very flexible platform and can be used for rifle matches, killing varmints, home defense some hunt hogs with it others kill terrorists with its military version over in the sandbox.
     
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    You can buy or build AR15 pattern rifles in many calibers suitable for hunting all sorts of stuff.

    [​IMG]

    That's a 16" AR15 carbine chambered in 7.62x39 clutched in my left hand, and that's a big freakin' feral hog (~ 500lbs, 6ft long snout-to-tail) that it dropped at about twenty/twenty five feet.
     
  11. Don't Tread On Me

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    The AR-15 is one of the few, if only, military pattern rifle which you could put into a configuration which a new shooter, within 2 hours of instruction, would be able to consistently hit a milk jug at 300 yards with.

    I doubt you could do that on another platform.


    The AR-15 can be accurate or accurized for a low cost. A Wilson barrel, freefloated with 69gr SMK's will shoot 1 moa. That is phenomenal for a military pattern rifle. With a premium barrel, it will shoot half that. A stock AR, will do 2moa. Again, some of the best military pattern rifle accuracy there is.

    Getting an M1A to shoot that well costs 3x more. Russian weapons, even if you try, will not do that.

    That same platform, can also be made into an ultra-lightweight, short, close quarters combat carbine designed for rapid fire on close targets while allowing you to stay on target due to little to no muzzle flip.


    It can be a target rifle for shorter ranges or longer ranges, it can be a varmint rifle, it can be a SHTF rifle, it can be a LE rifle, it IS a combat rifle as an A2, A4 and M4. It can be a home defense rifle. You can put anything you want on it for virtually any conceivable need, or you can keep it dirt simple.

    It is low recoil, very accurate, easy to shoot and ergonomic. It is reliable enough.

    There's a reason it's been in service with the US military for over 40 years. That isn't a mistake or a giant blunder or a diabolical scheme to save money. It works.
     
  12. RevolvingCylinder

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    Pretty much what everyone has said so far. There are also other options for this platform. There is the .458 SOCOM, the new .45 Bushmaster that's coming out, the AR-10(.308 version of AR15), other odd chamberings like the 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC and .50 Beowulf, and even a .50BMG upper. There are also a lot of chamberings available in Cobb's MCR rifles( http://cobb50.com/mcr.htm ). This opens the AR platform to other uses other than what the 5.56 is capable of.
     
  13. RockyMtnTactical

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    What is it NOT good for?

    I use them for hunting, target practice, plinking, home/self defense, etc...

    Main reason is for the protection of myself and my family.
     
  14. swingset

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    I have a hard time finding something an AR doesn't do well.

    Fun, plinking, home defense, target shooting, competition, it's the most complete platform there is.

    I wonder seriously about people who call themselves gun nuts who don't own one.
     
  15. Colt46

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    Frightening the likes of Feinstein and Boxer

    My esteemed Senators. California has it's own 'Assault rifle' ban that is crumbling under the weight of it's own stupidity as we speak.

    They are superbly accurate and quite capable for hunting small game in standard configuration. Specialized calibers can take on large game with no problem.
    The great thing about them is you can configure it exactly how you want it. buy the lower reciever and then all other parts are mail order and the variety is damned near endless.
     
  16. GunnySkox

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    Oh, man, I can't believe none of the AR haters/lovers got to this one yet:

    The AR, what it is a-good for?
    Absolutely nothin'! Unh!
    Say it again!

    :D

    But really, one of the things I like about the AR is you can buy or build one lower and do a thousand different things with it. You could take one AR-15 lower and build a...

    .22 plinking rifle
    .223 target/plinking rifle
    a semiautomatic replica of any M16 variant from any era
    a severely accurate varmint/target rifle
    a rifle for hunting medium game at reasonable ranges (6.5mm Grendel/6.8mm SPC)
    a rifle for punching great big holes in things (.50 BMG, .50 Beowulf, .458 SOCOM, etc.)
    9mm, .40, or .45 pistol caliber carbine...

    And so-on and so-forth and all that good stuff.

    ~GnSx
     
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    They upset those that promote muggings, rape and murder?
     
  18. 1911JMB

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    They are great fun to shoot, and they will take down bad guys, but I don't like them for the simple reason that they have a tendency to jam on me when I shoot borrowed AR's at the range. Granted you can keep them sparkling clean and they will work fine, but I don't like them because they don't work right dirty. My FAL on the other hand has never jammed. Several times I've let guys at the range with AR's use my cleaning supplies, because they forgot theirs and their AR's just won't cycle. I like to compare that to old dirty, a FAL thats seen 13,000 rounds with no cleaning, and zero malfunctions.

    http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68486

    Above all else a self defense gun should go bang if its loaded and you pull the trigger, and I think that alone is a good enough reason to call AR15's and M16's good mainly for sporting purposes. Don't get me wrong, the military, police departments and civilians have long used them with fair amounts of sucess, but I don't trust them. I don't think perfectionist cleaning should be a requirement for a gun thats supposed to be suitable for protecting your life.
     
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    I have four, and none have ever jammed on me 'because they were dirty'. Talk to the guys who put tens of thousands of rounds a year downrange thru these things, and they'll pretty much tell you the same.

    Buy/build a quality AR and shoot decent ammo out of decent magazines and you'll do just fine.
     
  20. vanfunk

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    It's unfortunate that you've had such a bad experience with the AR platform, but that is not the fault of the design. What were the brands/models your range friends were using that wouldn't run dirty? A properly assembled AR, made of quality (yes, "mil-spec" - there, I said it!) parts, will run and run through many thousands of rounds without cleaning. The AR, like the 1911, has become a popular home-builders platform, and its popularity with civilians has resulted in many civvie manufacturers turning out some shoddy work here and there. It's like the common misconception about the 1911 not being reliable, based on the example of the buddy at the range with his bargain-bin parts gun he built himself that fails to feed a magazine of hardball. The further any firearm design gets from its original specifications (with regard to assembly and parts quality), the more likely it is to have functioning problems.

    The AR design is not overly complex, in fact the action and trigger mechanism are very simple and robust. The FAL is of course a very robust design as well, but its reliability has been soundly and appropriately criticized with respect to certain environments, especially with its use in desert environments. The myth that ARs need to be parade inspection clean to function is just absolute hogwash. Personal proclivities are important, and of course its perfectly OK if you don't like them, but don't dismiss the platform as unreliable just yet. Find a good one (Colt) and go to town with it - Jeez, if you live in MA you can borrow one of mine and see how reliable an AR is when it's made right!:)

    vanfunk
     
  21. Rev. DeadCorpse

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    You know... I own two of these things. A tack driver and an entry length tacticool. The only time the Twins ever get finicky is when I try and feed them junk ammo.

    I tried some of the PMC plastic cased ammo once, I'll never do that again.

    Loaded up some range brass without trimming it back to SAMMI first. Case gage later on showed me I was way over on LOA, so it was no wonder I was having FTF's.

    Had some Wolf ammo leave some varnish or something in the chamber that started causing some FTE problems.

    But EVERY time I've feed it Winchester white box, Remington, UltraMax, or even properly prepped hand loads, they've performed fantastically. Put about 600 rounds in one trip through the Jolly Roger without a hitch.

    [​IMG]
     
  22. ATAShooter

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    Exellent for drillin coyotes. My soon to be son in law has a Dairy farm and the coyotes give him a hard time trying to get the calves. I am in the process of building an AR now.
     
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    well, Gunny, the tune of "War" is also the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread title
     
  24. Keith Wheeler

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    Doesn't the myth of "ARs have to be super clean to work at all" go back to the issue with the original non-forward assist M16 and the choice of powder for the ammunition of the time? (With the powder choice being the real issue...)

    My AR is currently embarassingly filthy. Still shooting fine. I'd have no problems right now trusting my life to it. It's fed everything I've put through it, surplus LC, Izzy, Guat, Brit, civie reloads, 55gr, 62gr, tracers. Mine is a "home built" on a bushmaster lower with a model 1 or some such kit (bought 10 years ago out of Shotgun News).

    The AR has got to be the best "everything" rifle ever built. I hate to use buzz words, but it really is a weapons system, and not just a rifle. That's where it has most other autoloaders beat. AK, FAL, HK, even my beloved Galil? As built they are one trick ponies. Want a different barrel length or caliber? You gotta get another rifle. With an AR it takes less time to change things than to talk about it.
     
  25. das028

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    1911JMB,

    I cant assure you that your experience with the AR platform is definitely in the minority. I think its kind of ironic that you have had that experience with your screen name being what it is. Know you want to talk about a gun thats finicky and need to be shot clean, just take one look at your screen name. Something tells me your an oldtimer too.
     
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