gyvel
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He needs a "survival gun," not a an "ammunition hunt" gun.
AR-7 Good Survival Rifle??
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He needs a "survival gun," not a an "ammunition hunt" gun.
My 'truck gun' is (it gets thrown in the truck in a soft case and I don't worry) a Kar 98k or a 12 ga. pump shotgun.
I 'get' the concept of the survival rifle, but a 22 target pistol is just as good and takes up less space and is usually more accurate than the AR-7.
I always wondered why the 'AR-7' wasn't developed as a .223/5.56 rather than a rimfire. Seems to me the Kel-Tec SU-16 could fit that role VERY well.
I 'get' the concept of the survival rifle, but a 22 target pistol is just as good and takes up less space and is usually more accurate than the AR-7.
I always wondered why the 'AR-7' wasn't developed as a .223/5.56 rather than a rimfire. Seems to me the Kel-Tec SU-16 could fit that role VERY well.
Smith357
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For a .22lr survival gun a good pistol takes up a lot less space.
thunder173
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I have an AR-7 that actually does pretty well with CCI Mini Mag solids. Not so much anything else. I also have a 5 1/2 " barreled Ruger Single Six. Care to hazard a guess which one I use most??
Hocka Louis
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No -- it is a .22 LR. Contrary to alot of parroting, why would the weakest cartridge be what you bet your life on?
talldragon
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Got to shoot a Marlin Papoose last November. Neat little rifle.
Only had one 7 round mag though, so not so fun without extra mags.
Here is one in action (just my basic google-fu; your own search will yield better results )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32FgaIb66bM
Only had one 7 round mag though, so not so fun without extra mags.
Here is one in action (just my basic google-fu; your own search will yield better results
)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32FgaIb66bM
I have 5 of the AR7 rifles and 2 of the AR7 pistols. I would not consider any of these for a survival condition. I love the little guys and have found them to be acceptable as far as accuracy, taken lots of rabbits with them but they are not target guns. I have a bull barrel on one of my AR7's (does not fit in stock) with a cantilever picatinny rail and red dot scope, fun pest control but again there are better choices.
You would be better served with a longer barrel 22lr pistol similar to a Buckmark hunter
You would be better served with a longer barrel 22lr pistol similar to a Buckmark hunter
BHP FAN
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I have the Henry AR-7, and had The Armalite 35 years ago and the Charter Arms 25 years ago. Every one of them worked, but accuracy was only that of a long barreled pistol.If I were buying a survival gun today, it would be a Ruger MK II pistol, or a S&W 422 or 622.
Because it is for SURVIVAL, not defense. Survival as in food procurement. It was designed for downed aircrew to take small game with. Behind enemy lines, it would be one of the first things I tossed since I'm not going to be discharging a firearm to announce my position unless my life depended on it. My life isn't going to depend on shooting a squirrel. For "life depends on it" aircrew are issued sidearms (type depends on crew position and aircraft, most pilots get the lovely M9) and even then, discretion is the better part of valor.
Now in a non-combat survival situation, I'd rather have either a single shot bolt action or a revolver in .22LR or Mag. They are reliable and accurate enough. Ammo is light and compact. They are less likely to blow big holes in dinner as well.
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I have a Marlin 39M, but the 39TD would be better because the two halves are the same length when taken down.
Hocka Louis
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No, survival is survival and could include defense. By your logic a .22 short is even better. You aren't gonna "survive" on chipmunks thru rabbits anyway. If people want to survive they'd better start taking this more seriously. .22 Mag, twice as powerful, is indeed an infinitely better choice.
I think that 7.62x25 suggestion is great, maybe even better in a pump or lever or semi-auto since they work there reliably as well, obviously. I seem to recall that pound for pound it was the most potent little round available.
Let's get that done people!
I think that 7.62x25 suggestion is great, maybe even better in a pump or lever or semi-auto since they work there reliably as well, obviously. I seem to recall that pound for pound it was the most potent little round available.
Let's get that done people!
Harvey/ Ga
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I've had mine since they were Armalite...1966!! Shoots just about everything that I've put thru it...good stuff and Thunderbolts <GG>
I give it a thorough takedown cleaning every year/1000 rounds, and use the good GI stuff (CLP or Tetra Gun) to lube. Accuracy with good ammo is decent, may even be good to 50 yards if you do your part. The G-kids and I generally shoot it at 25yds. with very good results.
I give it a thorough takedown cleaning every year/1000 rounds, and use the good GI stuff (CLP or Tetra Gun) to lube. Accuracy with good ammo is decent, may even be good to 50 yards if you do your part. The G-kids and I generally shoot it at 25yds. with very good results.
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When I was younger I wanted an AR-7 very badly. I finally found a neighbor who had one and let me test drive it. It was very poor to say the least and thankfully I got to shoot one before I shell out cash for one.
Here is a pretty good read on a 10/22 concept:
http://www.bugoutsurvival.com/2010/08/fitting-ruger-1022-in-bug-out-bag.html
The Marlin papoose is the real deal if you need a true take down. They shoot very well, are light, and accurate.
Here is a pretty good read on a 10/22 concept:
http://www.bugoutsurvival.com/2010/08/fitting-ruger-1022-in-bug-out-bag.html
The Marlin papoose is the real deal if you need a true take down. They shoot very well, are light, and accurate.
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