You know that adding 10sec + to your time, you might as well pack it up...
Id have about the same luck seeing a 400yrd target trough irons as I would through a damaged scope. Eyes are not what they used to be.
AR Optic Mounting Advice Needed
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You know that adding 10sec + to your time, you might as well pack it up...
Id have about the same luck seeing a 400yrd target trough irons as I would through a damaged scope. Eyes are not what they used to be.
Sam1911
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Yeah, but I'm not that kind of competitor who either is there to win the day or wants to go home.
If I came to shoot, I came to shoot. I LIKE to shoot, so a fixable equipment malf isn't going to send me home in disgust.
If I came to shoot, I came to shoot. I LIKE to shoot, so a fixable equipment malf isn't going to send me home in disgust.
Jackal
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Honestly, for the $65, Aero Precision mount is impossible to beat. Its strong, light and inexpensive.
chicharrones
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I'm with you, Sam.
When optics fail, I want to keep on shooting that day if possible. Back up sights whether on an AR or another rifle give me the option to do that.
The other option would be to carry a back up optic, but that can get expensive in comparison.
When optics fail, I want to keep on shooting that day if possible. Back up sights whether on an AR or another rifle give me the option to do that.
The other option would be to carry a back up optic, but that can get expensive in comparison.
Backup rifle with irons only is cheaper than quality optics too..
chicharrones
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Well that's gonna weigh a bunch more than just a set of BUIS.
But seriously, my budget for an optic is lower than the price of a second rifle equal to the first rifle. I've yet to be able to justify over $400 per optic due to my disposable income limits for firearms and such.
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cheygriz
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I have Trijicon ACOGS on mine. They come off with a coin if ever needed.
Comes off with no tools in about 10 seconds, with just a nickel or quarter.
Comes off with no tools in about 10 seconds, with just a nickel or quarter.
Been there. Done that. Got the Tee shirt and wore it out. It caused POI shift.
Instead, ask yourself if you really need the BUIS. How often do you use it? Good chance that your answers are "No" and "Never"
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I have had scopes outright break, batteries die in red dots, and weather seals become damaged. BUIS are very worth it in my opinion. Not so much on a hunting rifle but any rifle you would place your trust in for your life, yes. Even though the military has largely migrated to optics on their rifles, the smart units still have their soldiers zero backup iron sights.
Yes, feces occurs. But the question isn't "Has HerrWalther ever had an optic, etc. break?" The question is "Does KB need a BUIS?" and "Does KB ever use the BUIS or is it just decoration?".
KB, if it's something you use, spend the money needed to make it work. If it's something you need because you expect to use your equipment hard, you need to upgrade to equipment that will withstand hard use
KB, if it's something you use, spend the money needed to make it work. If it's something you need because you expect to use your equipment hard, you need to upgrade to equipment that will withstand hard use
chicharrones
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I thought the question was that KB wanted input on a different scope mount to clear his already owned BUIS?
Just because one may not need something doesn't mean they don't want it anyway. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting some sort of redundancy for a rifle sighting system if someone wants it, whether its a pampered range rifle or a run hard "work" rifle.
Answering the questions does not mean the BUIS has to be removed from the rifle. Answering the questions means looking at possible solutions in the harsh light of reality. Solve for practicality, solve for reasons of aesthetics/cool factor or a bit of both, while weighing the cost.
In this case, the cheapest and most practical solution is to remove the BUIS
In this case, the cheapest and most practical solution is to remove the BUIS
herrwalther
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I offered an opinion based on my real world experience with a rifle using an optic and equipped with backup iron sights. This is not a quality problem. I have had high end quality optics break or become unusable. Eotech, Aimpoint, and Nikon. Just because you don't put iron sights on your rifle does not make them useless or just for decoration. Everyone has their preference for building their setups.
Regardless. Unless you know what you're getting from the money spent, why spend it? The current combination doesn't work. Is it worth the added expenditure of backing up an economy model scope & mount? Or, should the BUIS be removed for now and the money put towards shooting the rifle?
There's nothing wrong with wanting a BUIS on your AR. If the BUIS is actually used, it's worth it to spend the money to make it usable. However, if the BUIS is never used, or even if only used on rare occasions, removing it is a more practical choice. Just pointing out an alternative that costs no money
There's nothing wrong with wanting a BUIS on your AR. If the BUIS is actually used, it's worth it to spend the money to make it usable. However, if the BUIS is never used, or even if only used on rare occasions, removing it is a more practical choice. Just pointing out an alternative that costs no money
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KBintheSLC
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Hey folks... I thought I'd post my final solution. UTG 3-notch 1/2" riser with some Weaver X-High tactical rings. It is a good bit lighter than before and seems rock solid. It is easy to remove with just my fingers and there is plenty of room for the rear sight.
chicharrones
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Looks beefy. All aluminum?
Driftertank
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I recommend spending the money on an AR-PEPR. I personally run an ADM Recon, and those are a bit more spendy...usually closer to $200. But i like to save my pennies and buy the best stuff i can find for my intended purpose.
A friend of mine has an AR carbine thats almost a carbon-copy of mine, and he runs a Vortex Strike Eagle in an AR-PEPR. I'd say its about 80% of my ADM in terms of fit, finish, ruggedness, etc, but at about half the price.
ETA: Sorry. Missed the problem solved bit. (whole second page really)
A friend of mine has an AR carbine thats almost a carbon-copy of mine, and he runs a Vortex Strike Eagle in an AR-PEPR. I'd say its about 80% of my ADM in terms of fit, finish, ruggedness, etc, but at about half the price.
ETA: Sorry. Missed the problem solved bit. (whole second page really)
Try these you will not be disappointed.I have the Burris AR-PEPR and the $59.00 SWFA which come with inserts for 1" scopes. The Burris has already stripped out in 1 whole with 15 inch lbs of torque. I have the Wheeler Scope mounting tool kit with center alignment bars and everything. I purchased the cheaper mount on Amazon and tested them out center to center they were perfect. Now they are to only ones I use.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016VPE9G...colid=WEIUMO5ZCX1D&coliid=INB8P1BJ27NZA&psc=1 Good Luck
I used these on a RRA Ar 15 and a Bushmaster Predator at first no problems. Now I have a set on my RRA LAR-8 AR10 308 again no problems.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016VPE9G...colid=WEIUMO5ZCX1D&coliid=INB8P1BJ27NZA&psc=1 Good Luck
I used these on a RRA Ar 15 and a Bushmaster Predator at first no problems. Now I have a set on my RRA LAR-8 AR10 308 again no problems.
herrwalther
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I use a UTG riser for my TRS-25 sight on my AR. A very solid built riser that didn't cost all that much. Very happy with mine so far. Only difference is I think mine is 3/4" riser for the higher front and rear sights.
cdb1
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The Burris PEPR and SWFA riser are one and the same.
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