AR15 favroite brand poll

Favorite AR15 brand out of these?

  • Rock River

    Votes: 20 32.8%

  • S&W M&P

    Votes: 10 16.4%

  • STAG Arms

    Votes: 10 16.4%

  • Daniel Defense

    Votes: 16 26.2%

  • Les Baer

    Votes: 5 8.2%
  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .
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If you say poll, you might actually want to include one. You can build a custom one for cheaper than you can buy in some cases, so dont rule that out. Plus it will be your custom little piece of work and not another cookie cutter AR-15. Magpull parts are always top of the line for furniture.
 
It's tough to recommend an AR-15 without having some idea of what you want to use it for. Home defense carbine, LEO duty rifle, 3-gun competition, hunting, or just dirt shooting at the range, all have different requirements.

That said, I've had flawless performance from my two Bravo Company carbines, and excellent service from the company. I'm not a super high volume rifle shooter, though.

-C
 
Usually polls are posted with the thread.

Buying a lower without involving an FFL isn't going to happen legally unless it's purchased from a private citizen.

From the specs, it appears a milspec M4gery is what is desired - whether or not that actually fills the bill for what you need, only you know - and didn't tell us.

Since all there is to decide is what Brand, pick which cool rolllmark impresses most, and go for it. What the target is, at what range doesn't seem to be a consideration much.
 
Apocalypse-Now said:
also want a free floating quad rail.
minus well buy the upper and lower seperate then.

i want a 1:9 twist, to give me decent accuracy with the cheapest ammo available. 1/7 or 1/8 is still better IME

i've only looked at one Daniel Defense AR, and honestly, i wasn't as impressed as many seem to be. heavy trigger pull, and space between the upper&lower receivers. really like that lightweight rail though. maybe it was just the one i saw.
that all sounds normal.


thank you, guys :)
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FF upper forearms are really a shooters choice. Check out a local 3 gun event. Everyone is using long freeloat tubes, but every single shooter has a slightly different setup.

So I'd recommend that you order a complete lower assembly from you local gun store. The LMT's with the Sopmod stock are very nice.

Then choose a upper reciever from BCM that fits you. They have the largest selection. Then snap the two pieces together.

I'd recommend a 14.5" or 16" with a long Larue rail.


Or just get the DD recce.
 
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Like Chris said, the intended uses has a lot of bearing on what may work best for you. My AR is built around a RRA upper and lower and thus I voted for RRA. It works great for rolling around in the dirt and dust and hitting far away steel from funny positions.
My rifle:
RRA upper and lower
Unknown internals
JP Stock
Hogue Grip
Colt medium contour barrel, 1:7
Yankee 4 rail float tube
Miculek Comp

I will say this about quad rails. They are heavier than a regular float tube and unless you are planning on running lights, lasers, and other tacticool gear, they are not a requirement. I'd like to swap mine out for something like a Troy VTAC Rail TRX or a JP float tube. And while I am a fan or rifle length barrels if a shorter barrel works for you then go for it.

A note on twist. General rule of thumb is 1:7 can shoot every thing from 55gr surplus to 80 grain hand loads. So do feel like you need 1:9 to shoot surplus.
 
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Usually polls are posted with the thread.
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Actually, no. Unless I'm missing something the thread must be posted before the poll can even be created. Just the way it works...

I voted Stag because it's what I have. :) I built it from a stripped lower and complete upper. I used a RRA lower parts kit and other than a creeping trigger pin I've been pretty happy with the build.
 
that all sounds normal.
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yeah, i looked at a DD today, and it was the same thing. the rock rivers i looked at didn't have any space between the upper and lowers. i know DD just started making AR's last year, that's why i'm kinda hesitant on that brand, although i like their rail systems they come with :)

having a larry vicker's super duper tacticool model for marketing purposes doesn't impress me.



They are heavier than a regular float tube and unless you are planning on running lights, lasers, and other tacticool gear, they are not a requirement.
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i want a quad for iron sights, vertical grip, and a tac light.
 
Another vote of buying a complete lower and complete upper and pinning them together. That way you get exactly what you want plus you can save enough $$$ to pick up a few hundred rounds to practice with.

i want a 1:9 twist, to give me decent accuracy with the cheapest ammo available.
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You might want to check out the RRA ATH. I have one and it will shoot nice consistent 2-2.5" groups @ 100 yards with Brown bear 55gr FMJBT. It will also shoot 3/4" groups with black hills 68gr heavy HP ammo:)
 
Are you going to plink around, or plan to put 500 to 1,000 rounds a week through this gun? If it's primary purpose is to target shoot once in a while, home defense and SHTF, then you have many options, and shouldn't rule out mixing uppers and lowers, or a build. It just too easy to do, and you can get exactly what you want. I've got $650 (minus rear sight) in my Del-Ton build. Took about 2 hours and it was my first time. I tossed in an Accu-wedge, not that I really needed it, but it's as tight as a glove now, and a really good shooter. A2 stock, 20" barrel. And I really learned a lot and had a blast doing it. The upper was already built, so it was like cheating. A year ago I would have paid $1,000 or more for that gun and been happy with it.
 
You have stag and RRA, but no spikes or BCM up there?

My answer if Spikes or BCM. Best bang for the buck.
 
You didn't have BCM? And you didn't have a selection for "built it myself". But Daniel Defense will do and got my vote. :D
 
I don't think you have an understanding of what makes a quality AR.
You need to do some more reading before you consider buying.
 
Apocalypse-Now said:
yeah, i looked at a DD today, and it was the same thing. the rock rivers i looked at didn't have any space between the upper and lowers. i know DD just started making AR's last year, that's why i'm kinda hesitant on that brand, although i like their rail systems they come with :)

having a larry vicker's super duper tacticool model for marketing purposes doesn't impress me.


i want a quad for iron sights, vertical grip, and a tac light.
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Stag and RRA both have a tighter fit. Colt, BCM, DD and all the mil spec rifles will have some play between the upper and lower. It's supposed to be there. You can ad a $1.99 part called the Accuwedge on the inside to tighten things up for that cool solid feel. I've been meaning to get one but they've been out of stock everytime I order form anywhere.

I liked the DD LAV rifle. But the price tag was way higher than something I could piece together myself with a BCM upper.

Check out Gear Sectors hand stops and light mounts. The hand stop is a great alternative to a forward grip if you use the Magpul Dynamics / 3 Gun style grip stance. I've seen people chop AFG's in half to make mini AFG's with good success as well.
 
LAV's signature Daniel Defense is a great rifle but expensive. You might want to check Pat Rogers' EAG signature BCM. It's cheaper and is midlength instead of carbine gas. I like the EAG better myself and ended up building a Daniel Defense 16" LW midlength much more like the EAG than the LAV.
 
Stag and RRA both have a tighter fit. Colt, BCM, DD and all the mil spec rifles will have some play between the upper and lower. It's supposed to be there.
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seems like that would allow sand, etc. in. what's the reasoning behind that? thnx :)


is it to allow another escape route for the impingement gasses?
 
Apocalypse, I posted in the thread exactly right after you made it so I didnt see a poll yet. My room mate is building up an AR off stag arms parts and is going to come out around $800. You can buy a complete from them as well if you want. They have a .22 conversion for their guns as well.
 
Thisnhas been covered in dozens if not hundreds of threaten. But here is the short version.

Of the ones you mentioned only the DD and to a lesser extent the S&W are worth looking at. The complaints listed come down to "fit and finish" which are only important if this is going to be a safe queen.

If you do some reading you will see that DD has already proven themselves in the AR market. The others, not so much.
 
These threads come up almost daily. Stag, RRA, etc cut a lot of corners in their production. Using inferior materials. Not doing the proper testing, not even bothering with the right specs in some cases. They focus more on the look of the gun than the actual function.

I am sorry if this isn't what you want to hear. But if you bother to read through some other threads covering this exact same topic you will see that this has been covered time and time again.
 
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