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Are all Lee pro 1000's this difficult to deal with, or is it just mine?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by gsc3zny, Jun 8, 2013.

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  1. gsc3zny

    gsc3zny Member

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    I finally got my case feeder to work, the shell plate lined up, the sizing and decapping die moved to the proper threaded hole, because in the first 2, the cases would not go in, finally got the primers to feed, but now, they will not go over the primer installer pin. Its as if the pin is set to high. They will not slide over in order to get punched in. I cannot find any adjustment on it or any help for this problem on yahoo. I want to get loading. BTW, these are CCI spp for a .38 and the primer holder has 100 primers in it
     
  2. Claude Clay

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    post a link to the on-line setup instructions...i've set up a number of the machines and changes are often made though the model number is not. I -think- your trouble is a plate washer positioned improperly.

    what fixes on page 4 have you tried?
     
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  3. gsc3zny

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    None of the problems on pag four are there. There is no oil in trough, trough is full, case sensor is hooked up to spring. It seems like the primer pin is not going down far enough to allow the primers to slide on
     
  4. bds

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    Welcome to THR. Relax as you have come to the right place. As indicated in the Pro 1000 support thread posts #65 and #67, there are several reasons why primers won't feed properly.

    If the primers are not sliding over the primer push rod/pin because the rod/pin is not dropping all the way down in station #2, it is due to improperly installed pin and/or debri at the bottom of the hole.

    As shown in the pictures below, top of the primer push rod/pin should be no higher than flush to the primer feed attachment surface.
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    If it is higher, then the primers will either not slide into station #2 or get tilted and catch the bottom of the shell plate/prevent the shell plate from rotating. At this point, forcing the press to cycle will simply damage the primer, turn the primer sideways/flip the primer and gouge/damage the primer feed attachment surface to the point where the primer feed attachment requires replacement with a new unit.
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    To resolve this issue, remove the shell plate and the primer feed attachment. Then pull out the primer push rod/pin with spring and inspect the bottom of the hole. Once the hole is cleared, reinstall the rod/pin and spring. Insert the spring over the longer portion of the rod/pin and lower the rod/pin with the shorter portion pointing down. Press the primer feed attachment back in and reinstall the shell plate.
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    Be sure the case sensor spring is install in the slot. If the spring hangs on the rod/pin, it will hold the rod/pin down and allow multiple primers to slide into station #2 instead of allowing one primer to slide into station #2 for each resized case that enters station #2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=min59rncM4I

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    If you have not removed the shell plate before, check out the Lee Precision how-to video on removing the shell plate without removing the carrier body (video shows installation but reverse the steps for removal) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8FPB3tu6tg

    Finally, operate the ram lever several times to verify that the shell plate timing is set properly (clicks into station as the shell plate carrier reaches the base of the press).

    Let us know how it goes.
     
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  5. Potatohead

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    nice post BDS..u da man
     
  6. gsc3zny

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    BDS thx. Totally new to reloading, a lot more work than I thought it would be. BTW. Everytime I turnaround, there is another accesory I "need". I got the press, than I needed extra dies and turret plates, then I needed a case feed system, then every time I look on Amazon, there is another tool or accesory I "need"!. Is it like this for eveyone? Your pictures are very clear. I have noticed that if I move the case sensor spring to the right or left, the primers fall just right. I will take it apart later and check out what your pics show. thx
     
  7. bds

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    You are very welcome. This is what THR is all about! :D

    While you are at it, I would check to make sure the case sensor is working properly. The column of primers should be held out of station #2 until a case passes through the case sensor and drop the primer rod/pin to allow one primer into station #2. Lee Precision has a video on proper installation - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwFIwZGKhl8

    While you do need to buy extra dies and turret for caliber change, the Pro 1000 kit should have come with the case feeder and 4 feed tubes. Yes, highly essential case collator does not come with the kit and need to be purchased separately.
     
  8. gsc3zny

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    It did, just the extras-bullet feeders, all the cleaning accesories, tools. Like I said everything I "need!"
     
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    Ooops, I spoke too soon.

    If you are going from small cases like 9mm to 40S&W/45ACP, you'll need to buy the large case feeder as the small case feeder won't feed the larger cases.

    In addition, you may need the larger case slider (depending on the caliber) also and the bent Z-bar.

    Still, the Pro 1000 has the lowest cost of caliber change compared to any other progressive press out there. ;)
     
  10. gsc3zny

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    I have all that. I think I found the problem by your previous post. I took the shellplate off and shot some WD on the parts and primers seem to feed now. I have my bullet seating die dialed in, now just have to figure out the powder. I just bought the Lee micrometer powder meter, so I guess there is some type of formula I need to figure out. Thanks again
     
  11. Schwing

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    People either love or hate the Pro 1000. I am the former. Be a little patient and read up on the little tweeks and mods and you will have an awesome press for a fraction of the price. I have had mine for awhile now and have virtually no problems with it.
     
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    I don't think using WD around primers is a good idea. Hornady One Shot is made for the purpose.
     
  13. gsc3zny

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    I think I will maybe change it the next time I switch shellplates, goo idea
     
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    Although some use lube on the bottom of the shell plate, I use mine dry.

    Here's how I lube my Pro 1000 (I use Breakfree CLP or any weight motor oil):

    - Press ram/lever metal contact points

    - Before each reloading session, one drop of oil on finger tip and spread on center hex index rod then cycle the ram lever a few times until index is smooth (during reloading session, if indexing becomes less smooth, I apply another drop of oil on the index rod as necessary)

    That's it.
     
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    Probably the last press a beginner should start on. Well maybe next to a promaster anyway.
     
  16. stavman11

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    The lee 1000 is a Great System... any new Loader will take some time to get dialed in and set up... i have 3 of them and all just took a few minutes to set up...

    Everything you need is in the Box... none come with cleaning supplies, bullet feeders, etc unless ya get the KITS but they dont come with die's. As a new Re-Loader there are lots of little things you SHOULD have... and you will still find things a Year from now...

    Be patient... you are loading Rounds.. and patience needs to be adhered to for sure... this is a fun and relaxing hobby, but it is a technical hobby as well, so dont expect to hit a home Run yer 1st at Bat... this isnt Xbox:D

    A bullet feeder is nice but wait till you are proficient before ya try that... by your other posts this is your first Time in loading... TAKE YOUR TIME.... Learn... ask questions... and dont try to load 300rds in an hour.....

    These are Bullets and are dangerous... treat it accordingly

    Good Luck and stay Safe
     
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    For a new reloader learning on the Pro 1000, you can use the press in "single stage" mode or "turret" mode until you become proficient and comfortable with the progressive operation.

    To use Pro 1000 in "single stage" mode, remove the case feeder/slider/Z bar and the center hex index or "action" rod and the shell plate won't rotate. The single stage mode is good for doing load development.

    To use Pro 1000 in "turret" mode, remove the case feeder/slider/Z bar and manually load one case at a time into station 1. When the case has finished loading through stations 2 and 3, place another case in station 1 and repeat. Loading one case at a time allows you to reload one station at a time and better learn the progressive operation. It is also a good QC check at the start of a reloading session for you to check proper function of each station to verify consistent powder charge drops, OAL, etc.

    Keep us posted!
     
  18. hentown

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    Any money you think you're saving with those crappy Lee progressives, you'll spend on Valium. Get a real progressive, and that would mean a progressive made by ANY manufacturer other than Lee.
     
  19. stavman11

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    Yer Opinion hentown...

    Not all of us agree... But it is America.. yer free ta bash anything ya want...

    :neener:
     
  20. bds

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    hentown, please do consider this in the spirit of the "High Road" ... Do you know why people start threads like "I bought this XYZ equipment and I can't get it to work properly"?

    Because for whatever reason, they already bought the equipment and now they are asking for our assistance. Simply posting that they should have bought another brand press as a solution is like telling someone with a flat tire they should have bought a different brand tire - absolutely no help to the person with the flat tire get back on the road. ;)

    Your experience with Lee presses may have indeed been negative and I am sorry to hear that. However, there are many of us who overcame the issues that are inherent to Lee Pro 1000 and successfully use them on an ongoing basis.

    Public forums like THR exist so helpful information can be shared on the wonderful network called the "internet" and support threads like the Pro 1000 Problems/Solutions exist to help others overcome the same issues we have learned to resolve.

    Imagine a new user of Dillon press posting the problem of powder measure drifting and the reply was, "If you bought a Lee press, fixed volumetric Pro Auto Disk powder measure won't drift." How would that reply help the Dillon press user? No, it would absolutely not help. Instead, another Dillon user suggesting to check powder measure drops every 50-100 cycles will. ;)

    Peace.
     
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    Wow.. Now that's a Post...;)

    Great Job bds.... You Da man:)
     
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    I agree. That is a great post bds.

    I have reloaded many thousands of rounds on my Lee Pro 1000. I do not use the bullet feeder and I only reload one caliber on it.

    For no more than it costs I will simply buy another one should I decided to load another caliber in volume.

    One change I did make was I reshaped the top of the slot in the primer tray where the primers feed into a funnel shape. It only took a few minutes with a sharp knife and improves the feeding of primers.

    Another important factor is your reloading technique. For me it functions best when I use a steady rhythm and consistent pressure when working the ram. But technique it important for any brand of press.
     
  23. stavman11

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    Exactly BSA1.... that is why i have 3 lee pro 1000 presses.. easier ta buy another for $170 and have it all set up and just move my Chair to load other rounds..

    9mm
    .357/38s
    .223

    i have Bullet feeders for 9mm and .357, but dont use it for .357 yet, but it is for larger/taller lead and will work for the Frangible 9mm lead i have...

    Every person i have seen that has had issues with ANY press... is usually solved with a question and some great Help from knowledgeable People.....

    Only thing i have done with Mine is use a bungy Cord in Place of the Chain..i kept breaking the chain and found this mod and helped alot...

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  24. Ken70

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    OP, you might want to download the current LEE catalog and then go to Midway and check out how an accessory is used, whether you might need one. With most things out of stock, it's nice to have a list of all the stuff you need. If in doubt, buy it, Lee isn't going to bleed you dry with their pricing.
     
  25. jerkface11

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    You're new to reloading and you went straight to a progressive? Be extra careful.
     
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