Are Glock owners the new 1911 people?

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I guess I am an oddity. I started with a striker fired Ruger sr9c and migrated to 1911s. Never cared for glocks.
 
Charlie98 said:
I guess that begs the question: What do pistols like the M&P, XD, et al have to offer over the Glock?
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I've never owned a Springfield but I have an M&P9 and a Glock 19. The M&P fits my hand better than any gun I've ever fired. That said just the 1/4 inch size difference between the M&P & the 19 makes a huge (to me) difference in conceal-ability. The fact that Glock magazines are around 10 bucks cheaper apiece than M&P magazines was also a major (to me) selling point.

The capacity difference is moot because I live in Colorado
 
Charlie98 said:
Well, I would say that is probably the main reason I don't own one... that and the trigger.
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Ergonomics is the reason I don't own a Glock. I never got around to testing one's trigger. If a handgun does not feel "good" or "right" to me I'm not interested in owning one and Glocks just feel
wrong. I handled one of the newer models at the LGS a couple of weeks ago. Nothing has changed.

I won't buy boots or shoes that I can't put on and walk around in to see if they feel "good" and I'm the same with a handgun. I'm too old and cranky to wear uncomfortable footwear or shoot weird feeling handguns.
 
I own a G17 for a few reasons. One, I always wanted one, but never got the chance before. Two, it was cheaper by about two hundred bucks than the least expensive 1911. Three, I owned a Series 70 Commander and was (briefly )issued an A1. Both were total dogs, fussy, heavy, and complicated. Not dissing the 1911 totally, I've seen and shot some stellar examples that tended to cost more than the car I drive now. Show me a decent 1911 pattern for 4 bills retail and maybe I'll rethink it.
 
doubleh said:
Ergonomics is the reason I don't own a Glock. I never got around to testing one's trigger. If a handgun does not feel "good" or "right" to me I'm not interested in owning one and Glocks just feel
wrong. I handled one of the newer models at the LGS a couple of weeks ago. Nothing has changed.

I won't buy boots or shoes that I can't put on and walk around in to see if they feel "good" and I'm the same with a handgun. I'm too old and cranky to wear uncomfortable footwear or shoot weird feeling handguns.
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It's funny, I carry a Kahr everyday... a 9mm. Originally, I wanted a .45 Kahr... and bought one... but the slight size differences made it a completely different pistol, both to carry and to handle. I did side-by-side comparos and was astounded at how different 2 pistols of the very same design, just one slightly larger, made. I was mightily disappointed, but the .45 is gone and I have 4 9mm's...

For that matter, I've found differences in different brands of 1911's...

I've shot my buddy's G19... it's OK and I can shoot it pretty well, but it isn't on my to-do list.
 
Glocks are what they are. Plain, boring, and undeniably reliable. The reason they’ve been around and as popular, for as long as they have, isn’t their fashion sense. And a fan club will only carry you so far if you’re producing junk. I don’t own a Glock. But I’ve shot just about every model of Glock that they have. The only one I would own would be a G40. A 6” 10mm sounds quite appealing. But I just don’t get the Chris Matthews thrill up my leg when I see a Glock.
 
I think the answer to the OP's question is "yes." Glock owners are caught up in the inertia of the design, massive aftermarket, and they're modifying them beyond recognition. They're reluctant to consider a different design because it doesn't have the aftermarket that the glock does. 1911's were the same way. There was a time when asking what kind of 1911 was in a person's holster got a paragraph long response of modifications and name dropping of famous gunsmiths.

I'm not bashing either design btw. Obviously Gaston Glock and John Browning did something right!
 
There are Glock lovers, 1911 lovers, DA/SA lovers, etc. But the looks of a handgun are very subjective. However, I don't believe any one handgun is better than any other so long as it is reliable and shoots when needed. I have shot many handguns in my life and only found a few to be so unreliable I will only use them as a paper weight (after the barrel is leaded). I personally do not like the looks, grip feel or trigger on a Glock, but if I ever need to use a handgun to defend myself again and a Glock was laying on the table, I would not hesitate to use it.

As for someone implying the Glock was the fist polymer handgun, that is incorrect, in fact Glock was 12 years behind the first polymer handgun, and, I believe, 20 some years behind the first polymer weapon. And Glock sure was not the first polygonal rifled gun.
 
Zerodefect said:
Glock or 1911. The most significant defensive pistols out there. I have plenty of both. Each has it's place.
I'd love to try some competition CZ's, but I'd never carry one.
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Thats a wormhole that will have you second guessing everything... :)
 
In regards to the question posed in the OP, probably true. Things were always better before, and I can see where many Glock guys would not be a fan a newer designs.
 
Eh, Glocks work for me, so do 1911s. If I'm not carrying/training/competing/shooting one its the other.

Tried nearly everything else and landed on what works best for me.

HK and Colt fans annoy me most, what with their flowery language and hyperboly.

But live and let live (or maybe love and let love) I says.
 
There’s a big difference in a 1911 fanboy dismissing a Glock than a Glock fanboy dismissing a “new design “
Glock is and was revolutionary in its ergonomics over a 1911 but the “new” plastic designs are more or less tweaks of what Glock is.

For a lefty the 1911 was awkward at best so I chose revolver, when I wanted more capacity I switched to ambi semi-autos. for me Glock became the next stop in my progression to compatibility and simplicity.
 
RETG said:
As for someone implying the Glock was the fist polymer handgun, that is incorrect, in fact Glock was 12 years behind the first polymer handgun, and, I believe, 20 some years behind the first polymer weapon. And Glock sure was not the first polygonal rifled gun.
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If you're referring to the HK VP70, that was an albatros. I know because I've shot a couple of them back when. Top heavy, expensive and with a terrible trigger. The Glock trigger was a gift from the gods in comparison.

Glock was the first to bring it all together, polymer, striker, no manual safety etc. In fact HK didn't even attempt to make another polymer gun until the USP series in 1993 a full 11 years after Glock.
 
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vba said:
If you're referring to the HK VP70, that was an albatros
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Glock certainly was not the first at anything. That said, Glock darn sure was/is more popular.

Course, how much of that rise can be attributed to the gun itself vs. the whores, strip clubs and freebies? Regardless, the marketing force did it right, and just about every manufacture followed suit with their own version of a poly pistol.
 
I don't see Glock owners as clinging to old, antiquated technology as some may accuse 1911 owners of. Sure, there are many examples now of different brands that may have what can be considered better ergonomics and a better trigger while being just as reliable as a Glock. Ergonomics are a subjective thing though. I happen to prefer Glock, (Gen4's with finger grooves at that) over others I've tried. They feel good in my hand and point perfectly. That leaves the trigger which is really not that hard to improve if you so desire.
Where Glock clearly wins is in aftermarket support. Holsters, magazines, sights and other parts are readily available and in many cases relatively cheap compared to the others at this point in time. Interchangeability is another big plus. Guess I'll just have to be a bitter Glock clinger for a while yet. :)
 
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OP's question: Are Glock owners the new 1911 people?
No.
Glocks have been around since 1982 ...
The 1911 since ... well, 1911.
Ask again in about 75 years. Besides, 1911 curmudgeons complaining about a new polymer-framed, striker-fired pistol cannot be compared to Glocksters complaining about ... new polymer-framed, striker-fired pistols.

Gun guys are just like truck guys, Jeep or any other four-wheelin' guys, watch guys, guitar guys, cigar guys, Scotch whisky guys, etc ... Everyone has got their chosen platform, make, model, brand, edition, whatever, and they'll be quick to dismiss anything else as inferior. Gun guys are also some of the most opinionated people I know.

Frankly, to me, the folks that spend the most time talking about, defending or promoting their chosen platform are usually the same folks that think it's the tool and not the operator; they don't train, practice or often even understand the legal, moral and ethical obligations of firearm ownership. I could care less about what someone's favorite pistol is, so long as they are safe, train and see the big picture.



 
Everyone has got their chosen platform, make, model, brand, edition, whatever, and they'll be quick to dismiss anything else as inferior.
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Except for the people who like lots of different guns and can't choose a favorite--or who choose a different favorite on a regular basis... :D

Oh, I'll admit there are guns I like and a few I don't like, but I don't try to convince myself, or others that a gun I don't like must automatically be inferior. There are some high-quality guns that I just don't care for. And some relatively low quality guns that I like and that are a lot of fun to shoot. If someone wants a fair assessment of a gun I don't like, I'll give it to them (assuming I have the knowledge to do so) and if they want a fair assessment of a gun I do like, I don't mind explaining the shortcoming and limitations of the gun in the process of assessing it.

But, in general, you're probably right. People buy a gun and then spend the rest of their life rationalizing their choice to themselves and to anyone who will listen.
 
tarosean said:
Course, how much of that rise can be attributed to the gun itself vs. the whores, strip clubs and freebies? Regardless, the marketing force did it right, and just about every manufacture followed suit with their own version of a poly pistol.
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Man, you've got it bad. About every manufacturer got it somewhat right decades later.
 
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