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Are the "Dems" getting it?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by P12, Nov 16, 2004.

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  1. P12

    P12 Member

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    How pro-gun is he?

    Is this "really" an improvement over Daschel?

    If he "really" is pro-gun that's good for us. BUT, it concerns me about what the Dems are up to. :scrutiny:
     
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  2. Stevie-Ray

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    You'd have to be careful. The Dems are a crafty lot. They know that gun rights have cost them at least one election and several seats. They're going to learn at least to give the impression that they're turning the corner. Then they'll hit us when we're at our most vulnerable; when the most moderate of us are switching sides.
     
  3. Preacherman

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    Watch his words and actions concerning judicial nominations. That will tell us a whole lot more about him... :scrutiny:
     
  4. Standing Wolf

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    He's either schizophrenic or still an adolescent.
     
  5. hubel458

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    Dems are trying to snooker us. Reid is worse than Dashole on
    most issues, but he doesn't have the abrasive manner that
    draws attention to it. He is too greenie, and antigun in his
    previous actions that I have seen.He supports a few mines(big) in
    his state(campaign money), but sure has hurt other endeavers in the west with his support of greenie screwball ideas..Ed.
     
  6. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Check out Reid's past voting history... he may not often vote anti on high-profile anti-gun legislation; but he has a ton of anti-gun votes on smaller bills that didn't go anywhere. He is better than Daschle on guns but not by a lot.
     
  7. RangerHAAF

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    We know what they are.

    They(Dems) still think that it was just religious voting Christians that put the Republicans over the top. They couldn't be further off the mark. The main base that keeps Republicans in power is gun owning voters.

    Jerry Falwell and Ralph Reid can bask in the glow of being electoral king makers but the truth is that they benefitted from a simple question that was asked in 11 states. The question was whether or not marriage should be between a man and a woman? Seems like simple straight forward question with a simple answer. The average Joe on the street could not care one way or the other but in getting the above question on the ballot the leftist media is now portraying middle America as a bunch of gay-bashing, religious homophobes; and now the Dems are trying to figure out how to start sounding sincere and paying lip service to Christian values.

    It's not going to work. The voting public knows what they are and what they would like to do if they ever get back in power.
     
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    GOA gave him an F.
     
  9. fish2xs

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    Beware of liberals bearing gifts....

    READ ABOUT REID

    Robert Bluey of Human Events has written a story on what the nation can expect from incoming Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada) which includes this quote from yours truly, based upon my first-hand experience dealing with the man when I was living in Las Vegas: “This guy (Reid) will talk a good (bi-partisan) game, but he is as partisan as they get and just as mean. No one should be mistaken about that nice, quiet demeanor of Reid's. He can really lull you into a sense of security, but he'll turn around and bite you really fast."

    Read the full article at: http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5755 :scrutiny:
     
  10. BigG

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    Anybody with a D behind their name is either an opportunist, dishonest, or both. You can't trust any of them [period]
     
  11. hillbilly

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    Just listen to any Dem strategist.

    Listen to James Carville. Listen to Terry McAuliffe. Listen to George Stephanopolous.

    Every single one of them is saying the exact same thing.

    They all say Dems need to change the way their ideas are PACKAGED.......


    None of them are saying Dems need to change their ideas.............


    Same crap. Different day.

    hillbilly
     
  12. Dbl0Kevin

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    Only problem is the dems really don't HAVE any ideas. They simply want power and will do or say whatever is popular in the latest gallup poll in order to gain that power. Fortunately it seems that a good number of people are FINALLY realizing this and seeing them for the phonies that they are.
     
  13. 2nd Amendment

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    No, the Dems aren't "getting it". In fact, they are preparing to marginalize themselves even more. They have, at all levels, convinced themselves they are of a superior intelligence and they lost, yet again, because the US is controlled by stupid people. Thus they must educate us...and failing that, manipulate us. Neither is easy to do when you have totally underestimated your opponent in the first place.

    As for Reid? Less than no effect.
     
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    It's all about packaging...

    When it comes to gun legislation, dems are like food in the grocery store. Every year it seems you get less product for your money, but they put it in a flashier box and stamp "New and Improved" on it. It will fool those who are won over by visuals and don't read the facts (too many people) But those of us who look closely just feel more cheated. Dems still don't seem to get that we want substance, not spin
     
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    Odd that such smart people seem to have such a difficult time manipulating us poor rubes...
     
  16. Waitone

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    Same toothpaste, different tube.

    He would not be elected Minority (sounds great!) Leader if he wasn't a screaming partisan. Democrats need to recase themselves, but Harry Reid ain't the one to do it. A Zel Miller or Sam Nunn or even a Hubert Humphrey is a great place to start.
     
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    Sorry to veer this thread, but the story reminded me that Kerry is returning to the senate.

    If you were to spend a year searching for a new job, and only showed up a few days during that period at your current job, do you think your boss would say, "hey, John! Welcome back!" Or would you be fired?

    And what is it with Nevada? Does the very southern part of the state rule the entire state? Seems like the last place you'd find liberal politicians.
     
  18. Missouri Mule

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    Getting it?.....NO!


    Faking it.....Yes!!!!! :banghead:
     
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    If, when they need it, they can get even an NRA board member like Dingel to vote for a gun ban, you'd have to be a fool to trust any Democrat to be reliably pro-gun. Essentially all of them are either openly anti-gun, covertly anti-gun, or will put party ahead of the 2nd amendment, if it's demanded of them.
     
  20. redhead

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    Hillbilly is correct. The "talking points" I'm still hearing coming out of the mouths of the talking heads are the same - They need to clarify their issues, they need to start talking more about God and their values. They truly don't get it - I heard and understood their issues, and I ain't buying. They can blab about God and their family values, but I'm not buying that, either. As long as they push issues like more gun control and extreme environmental positions and the like, they can look forward to losing more elections
     
  21. wingman

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    They have a tough job repackaging socialism so it looks good. :barf:
     
  22. RangerHAAF

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    They keep talking about people not getting their message. We've heard their message L/C since 1994 and understood them perfectly. They don't seem to hear our message that we don't to have any part of their sniveling whining philosophy; that we just want to be left alone to live our lives as eventfully or uneventfully as possible without being forced to comply with their socialist vision of what they think this country should look like.

    Enough is enough; for me anyway.
     
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