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Are you sick of accessory rails?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by SureThing, Jul 14, 2008.

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Are you sick of accessory rails

  1. Yes, I'm sick of them

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    67.5%
  2. No, I like pretending I'm in SWAT

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  1. SureThing

    SureThing Member

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    I'm getting sick of all these guns coming out with accessory rails. Talking about Beretta 92's, 1911, SP 01, Sigs....etc....

    It seems that everyone has jumped onto the rail bandwagon. I'm getting tired of them.

    Do I stand alone?
     
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  2. tdyoung58

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    nope, hate the damned things, waste of $$$$
     
  3. Wolfman_556

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    Yeah but not as much as I'm sick of the proliferation of polymer and alloy frames.

    There is a market and niche for them, but dagnabbit I'd much rather have STEEL and that's becoming more and more rare in new production pistols.
     
  4. legion3

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    Yes very few guns look good with them.

    Compare these two CZ's Physically Identical but...

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    Glock's is fairly less intrusive on the guns overall apperance but then they added the finger grips...

    Some rails look ridiculous and why is there a rail on the KT PF9? or Walther PPS. I guess I should be grateful ruger didn't put it on the LCP.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised to see no new steel pistols in the future, at least from the major manufacturers. 20 years or so, new production steel pistols may be long gone.
     
  7. bannockburn

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    SureThing

    I was looking at a KT PF-9 last week, only this particular model even came with its own laser and mounting kit. I asked if I could buy it without the laser for a discounted price, and the salesman said no, that was how this shipment of pistols were ordered. So I have to wonder why would I want to mount this rather cumbersome laser on a gun that is obviously designed to be a very compact and unobtrusive CCW piece? I mean the whole reason for me even looking at the gun in the first place was because it really is small and trim enough to be carried inside my pants pocket. But I sure wouldn't be attempting that if it had that laser stuck on the front of it.
     
  8. CallMeIshmael

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    Accessory rails for J-Frame Airweights

    I'm waiting for Smith&Wesson to introduce a model 340 variant in 44 mag. (3 shot?) with full underlug 1 7/8 in. barrel and accessory rails for flashlights, high power lasers and rocket launchers.
     
  9. Lonestar49

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    Kinda a loaded question.. LMAO

    I just bought my second non-railed SIG P229 40cal and lovin it/them, and have no use for rail mounted lasers, as the CT grips work great and holster in any already made holsters. And using a gun for a flashlight in my book, for civil-patrol, is an accident waiting to happen.. So, NO rails, the better.


    Ls
     
  10. AK103K

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    I got sick of trying to hold a 130 pound Rottie and a flashlight in one hand and my shooter in the other out in the yard at night. Now the light and gun are one, and all is well. Works real well without the dog too. :)

    I didnt like them at first, but now that I've actually used them, I'll take the rail.
     
  11. Wolfman_556

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    Sadly I agree.

    No one will ever persuade me that alloy or polymer is better than steel.

    Yes it's heavier. But I don't mind the weight. If fact that little bit of extra heft feels better to me.

    Do I have an alloy framed pistol? Yes (Beretta 92FS). Do I like it? Yes. Would I like it even more if was all steel? Absolutely yes.

    Do I have a "plastic pistol"? Yes (Ruger P97DC) Do I like it? Yes. Would I sell it in a heartbeat if Ruger made one exactly like it but with a steel frame? You bet I would.


    I know some folks prefer them for the lighter weight and lower maintenance, and other reasons, and that's fine.

    But IMO the main reason most of the manufacturers are going to alloy and plastic is to cut costs while following the Tactical Trend.




    And 20 years from now, we can only hope that we can still own guns of any kind. The Supreme Court recently helped us but it would be naive to declare victory over the Civilian Disarmament Agenda at this point.
     
  12. Mad Magyar

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    Damn, if you eliminated these type of accessories, who's going to foot the bill for GUNS & AMMO TV & PERSONAL DEFENSE TV? From gun rag to TV, they don't miss a trick...:uhoh:
    Off the same path, the latest gizmo: mag-well funnels, in plastic & aluminum...Bill Wilson made a mint on his Shok-Buffs & now markets this also: A solution to a "non-existent problem"...:)
     
  13. Disaster

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    I like how you made the no choice an insult to limit the people who would pick it.

    No, I don't enjoy pretending I'm in SWAT, but yes, I do like accessory rails.

    I'm not a fan of weapon lights...at least not on a pistol but a rail mounted laser is a great training tool and beats night sights by a wide margin.

    So, I voted NO, despite your insult.

    By the way, when did you stop beating your wife?
     
  14. SureThing

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    Disaster,

    It is called Humor...you should try it some time.

    What do you mean by "when did you stop beating your wife?"
     
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    I'm still trying to figure out the "beating my wife" statment.
     
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    Wow, wife beating? I had to reread the openning post twice, and I have no idea where that came from. I think rails suck, but I might think different if I was an LEO. For my purposes, I don't find them necessary.
     
  18. R.W.Dale

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    In my mind griping about rails on a handgun is akin to griping about rifle receivers being drilled and tapped for scope mounts. Or trucks coming from the factory with trailer hitches.

    Don't like them! then don't use them. It's really as simple as that

    I prefer then myself and I don't own anything made from ballistic nylon. I just happen to think their great for the versatility of being able to use universal accessories.

    Wow bout wording the poll differently

    I'm afraid of anything new, My TV still uses vacuum tubes

    Progress and standardization is great
     
  19. jetrecbn

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    I don't like them. I do think that they are OK on full size weapons; size doesn't matter as much since you are making the weapon bulkier. On midsize or ccw pieces I don't like them. Look at the CZ PCR vs the PO1. Same gun but the P01 got bulky with the addition of the rail.

    Why on earth does the Walther PPS have a rail? I thought its major selling point was concealability.
     
  20. SureThing

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    Especially on small pocket pistols. Like the PF-9
     
  21. steelyblue

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    The light would almost double the size of a pf9.
     
  22. Disaster

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    Really? You can't understand the reference with your Poll question, which insinuates someone who likes accessory rails must like pretending they are in SWAT to the infamous question "When did you stop beating your wife" which insinuates, of course, that the person did once beat their wife?

    Some people might really be offended if someone were to accuse them of liking to pretend they are an LEO...especially since this is an age old anti-gun type argument/insult. Like, "Why would you carry a gun around with you. Do you like playing cop?"

    By the way, I wasn't trying to insult you...just trying to show an analogy with a little levity...which is tough sometimes to do on the web.
     
  23. nwilliams

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    I have accessories rails on a couple of my guns, I could get by just as well without them. I've never been interested in accessorizing my handguns with lights and laser and whatnot, just not my thing. They don't bother me all that much although sometimes I feel they take away from the character of the gun. Some guns look great with rails and others just look ridiculous with them, it depends on the gun.
     
  24. Frog48

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    I dont own any handguns with accessory rails, if thats any indication.
     
  25. Technosavant

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    On some guns I don't see the point in them (like the officer's size 1911s or little pocket guns), but on midsized to large guns, I don't really care. I like them for house guns.

    What I'm mainly sick of is people whining about market direction. Some folks whine about proliferation of calibers, others moan and groan about rails, others complain about X or Y type/brand of gun. Does it really bother you that much what is on somebody else's gun? You might try deep breaths or learning to live and let live.
     
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