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Arizona HB 2630: Reduced penalty for CCW without permit

Discussion in 'Activism' started by WayneConrad, Apr 22, 2008.

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  1. WayneConrad

    WayneConrad Member

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    From The Arizona Citizen's Defense League:
     
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    I don't quite get this one. It implies to carry (on your person) in a car, everyone in the car must have a permit? Makes no sense.
    I'm curious, since I do carry when driving in AZ (IWB, uncovered) . I have a CCW permit, but typically don't have passengers.
     
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    Why cant they do this in Florida?
    In Florida carrying concealed gun without a permit is a 3rd degree felony that is very severe and it should be reduced to a minor misdemeanor or even a fine because its not a crime that hurts anyone and its normally considered a right.
    Because of the severity of that law I wont take chances since the consequences of that will ruin my entire record and right to own guns.
    All I can do is stuff the gun in a holster and leave it in the car and hope that in 3 years nothing bad happens until I am eligible for ccw.
    funny thing is California of all places only lets it off as a misdemeanor but florida a felony which is completely ironic because Florida is way more pro-gun then California.
     
  4. WayneConrad

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    joe4702, It doesn't make sense, does it. I think what AzCDL is doing is cleaning up the results of some bad case law. There are some judges in Arizona that have "written" some pretty interesting law with their decisions.

    I'm interesting in this "CCW law" passing because Arizona is, in theory, a gold star open carry state. And yet, every time I sit in the driver's seat, I am, because of the funny case law in Arizona, concealing the sidearm on my belt. That's just odd.

    I hope my fellow Arizonans are writing their emails and making phone calls. Let's get this one on the governor's desk.
     
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    I've sent the emails and hope it makes it to Janet's desk , but i'm afraid it will die once there
     
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    Good man, Dave. I'm not afraid. Let Ms. Napolitano be afraid. Every bill like this that reaches her desk is a political hot button she'd rather not have to touch. Better that it gets there for her to veto than that it dies in the Senate. She burns political capital with every veto, and sometimes she has to preserve political capital and let one through.
     
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    One can only hope! I've gotten very positive responses from Jim Weirs and Linda Gray every time i've emailed them on RKBA issues.I shoot at Ben Avery a couple weekends per month, and always cover my guns with a blanket when they're in the back seat of my truck, i always wonder how it would look if i were to get pulled over and have the officer notice the "concealed" weapons.
     
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    I've had a CCW in AZ for 7 years and this is the first I've heard of this one. Anybody have a source? I suspect that it is incorrect.
     
  9. AZRickD

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    If you are a gunnie from Arizona, you should frequent (and be a dues-paying member) of http://www.azcdl.org .

    If you have a CCW permit you are allowed to put it under your seat. Are you under control of it under the law (case law)? We don't know. What if you leave your car? Are the passengers in control of it?

    Just trying to get rid of the traps.

    Rick
     
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