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Arlington Virginia attacks and stupid advice

Discussion in 'Legal' started by ZeSpectre, Jun 5, 2007.

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  1. ZeSpectre

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    We've had a series of assaults recently which prompted this article. Emphasis in the article was added by me.

    I think my head nearly just exploded. A man assaults young women, tries to put a plastic bag over their head, and the police say you shouldn't fight back? That's just insane!

    I think the part that gets to me the worst is I've dealt with Arlington police any number of times and believe them to be a first rate department....but this foolish advice just boggles my mind.
     
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  2. FieroCDSP

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    Sounds to me like the cops should be planting an attractive female officer to get this guy. I don't know about you guys, but I'd consider someone trying to put a bag over my head as intent to kill.
     
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    how do you blow a whistle with a plastic bag over your face?
     
  4. Dan from MI

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    Sit back, relax, and enjoy it? :rolleyes:

    I'm absolutely sick and tired of the passiveness of this society.
     
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    LOL Good point +1
     
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    Be a good little sheep... We'll notify your next of kin, and look for the guy that murdered you. :barf:
     
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    How many of these attacks have to happen before we enact reasonable plastic bag control?

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. romma

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    plastic bags can elude airport security!!
     
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    And no one needs plastic bags to hunt deer, either!

    Oh, wait - they are sort of handy.
     
  10. LeafsFan

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    Police don't necessarily advocate fighting back, however. "We don't know what's going to trigger this guy," Berke said.

    If he runs up to a woman, shoves a bag over her head and starts dragging her away I think we can safely assume that he's already been triggered.

    +1 on the other advice about being aware of suroundings and not zoning out on the iPod while walking alone at night, however. That's just good old common sense.
     
  11. Henry Bowman

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    I've been hearing about some California cities banning plastic grocery bags. Now I understand why.

    Let's hope this quote was grossly placed out of context by the author.
     
  12. HiroProX

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    Their advice, should be a crime for them to even utter.

    If that's the best advice cops can come up with, I have to ask the question...

    What use are cops?
     
  13. Henry Bowman

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    These are the author's words, not the cop's. No quoted language advocates not fighting back. The cop may be as infuriated as the rest of us with how his words were twisted. We don't know what quotes were not included by the author and we don't know what questions were or were not asked by the author/interviewer.

    How much do you trust Daniela Deane and the Washington Post? I'm not defending the Arlington police so much as simply warning you about the media.
     
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    In the woods, three shots are a distress signal. If these women would fire three shots, I'm sure their situation would improve even before help arrives.
     
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    obxned :D
     
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    Wow... I live in Alexandria, VA which is close. Time to start avoiding Arlington.
     
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    I think once he's attacked his victim its a little too late to worry about antagonizing him. Why am I not shocked at that kind of PC advice from a N.VA jurisdiction PO. I would be shocked if he'd advised women to carry a self-defense weapon or fight back.
     
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    Nut jobs walking around at insanely late hours armed with plastic bags targeting chicks....

    The police can't stop and idiot like this??? What, is he a midnight grounds keeper that thought the chick dropped a gum wrapper????
     
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    If the police made any sort of ascertion or recomendation against fighting back it was definately to avoid law suits. I know here at my university (where I am studying criminal justice) it has been said in class many times that victims should not fight back against robbers. Only give them what they want and they will likely go away. While it is true that many "robbers" that have been interviewed express the idea that they are not likely to hurt anyone who doesn't fight back, there are those who say that they like to hurt people. I'm not going to take my chances. Also, it says something about society when we (<-- society) are unwilling to defend ourselves. There was a time when the country looked down upon such ideas as rolling over. Ever heard of a shotgun wedding?
     
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    Sounds like they need a police decoy.

    Mr. Bowman,
    That was San Fransisco. The bags were making a serious mess(which only added to the filth) and getting blown into the bay, which resulted in small loveable animals dying.
     
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