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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by AWorthyOpponent, Jul 6, 2011.

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  1. AWorthyOpponent

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    Just bored at home and listening to the police scanner for my area heard an armed home invasion in progress go out. You could tell that the responding officers were giving it their all to get there. Then the dispatcher notified the officers she had lost contact with the home owner. It took 8 minutes for the officers to arrive on scene. I know it doesn't sound like a long time, but think about what you could do in that amount of time if you were determined. This really makes the saying: "when seconds count, the police are only minutes away" hit home. The house was only about 2 miles from mine.
     
  2. KAS1981

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    Anybody notice the term "home invasion" has only recently popped up within the last few years?

    It used to be called burglary.

    I think it's because everything now days has to be so sensationalized.

    But yeah, waiting 8 minutes for the cops to show up while somebody breaks in to my home is no bueno.
     
  3. Larry E

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    Unless the sheriff is right around the corner, which is not likely with a large county and few officers, in 8 minutes someone would be dead, hopefully those who were doing the invading.

    Makes a guy want to pack 24/7.
     
  4. Cluster Bomb

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    booby trap a nothing closet and tell him the safe is unlocked in that closet.....then stomp his face in........i meen lay down and let the steel your insurance should cover it....yea....**** like that suxs
     
  5. longdayjake

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    When I worked security at the hospital I once got into a confrontation with an individual that required every bit of strength and energy I had to keep him subdued. In about three minutes I was so worn out that I was literally down to no fuel left. Luckily the guy was feeling as spent as I was so by the time the cops showed up about 5 minutes later I was just sitting on the guy to keep him still. I was in very good shape at the time, but a human body cannot fully exert itself for much more than 3 minutes. There was not one second that I wasn't using all my strength for those three minutes. I have since realized that in a physical fight for your life, three minutes is all you can hold out for backup to arrive.

    P.S. It may also be prudent to mention that you can't depend on nurses to help you with anything other than changing your bed pan and giving you pills to make you sleep.
     
  6. Owen Sparks

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    I think that in my state the legal term is “burglary of an occupied dwelling” which is a much more serious charge than burglary.

    Remember: When lives are on the line and seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
     
  7. CPLofMARINES

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    I think Massad Ayoob has said you need to be able to get to your weapon
    in 5 sec. or less, if not carrying.



    Semper Fi
     
  8. Monkeyleg

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    I think "home invasion" generally refers to a break-in when the residents are home, which is also called "hot burglaries". Run of the mill burglaries were break-ins conducted when nobody was home.

    Invasions are much scarier, obviously.
     
  9. Cluster Bomb

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    vast majority of home invasions/burglary happens when people are at home..
     
  10. Kliegl

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    I call BS on that.
     
  11. Monkeyleg

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    Actually, according to Gary Kleck (criminology professor at Florida State University, and author of many studies on gun ownership), the hot burglary rate in the US as of 1997 was 13%. The other 87% were "cold," where the residents were not home.

    Other countries have much higher rates of hot burglaries. London's hot burglary rate is twice that of New York City.
     
  12. AWorthyOpponent

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    I'm pretty sure the actual charge is "Burglary of an Occupied Dwelling" here too, but I called it a home invasion because it's a more widely used term, correct or not.
     
  13. AWorthyOpponent

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    All my CJ classes in college said it was less than 15%, varying from 9% to 14% depending on the area and time looked at.
     
  14. -eaux-

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    All burglaries* happen when no one is home.
    Unlawful intrusion of an occupied dwelling ("home invasion", "aggrivated burglary"?) is an entirely different and more serious charge than simple burglary.

    *your local laws and terminologies may vary
     
  15. walker944

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    Any idea what happened to the home owner? Doesn't sound good. Hope they were okay.
     
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    A home invasion involves burglary, armed robbery . assault with a deadly weapon, and false imprisonment.
    Good doors and windows and lighting, Alarm systems, somebody usually all ways at home who is trained in firearms, and dogs are a good layered defense.
     
  17. Jim Watson

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    My Dad (born 1913) said that in his younger years, nighttime burglary of an occupied dwelling was a capital crime in this jurisdiction. Now it is up to the resident to make it so.
     
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    The vast majority of burglaries DO NOT occur when people are at home, most residential burglaries occur between the hours of 8:00 A.M. and 4:00 P.M. when a most folks are at work, or away from their homes for an extended period of time. For reasons that should be obvious the average burglar, whatever that may be, will do almost anything to avoid coming in contact with their victim.

    As for the exploding closet door well that’s a great idea until an invited guest or resident opens the door by mistake. If this happens plan on getting to be real good friends with your criminal defense attorney and the attorney who will try and defend you in the civil suit, also note that your homeowners insurance probably will not cover you when they find out you acted in reckless, dangerous, and probably illegal fashion.
     
  19. John_galt

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    A week or two ago a guy near me had someone try to break into his house. First tried to get through a childs window, then used a concrete block through the door. Shot with a .22LR - and stopped his efforts. Personally homeowner should be charged with lack of caliber and forced to buy a better weapon. Although the .22 did stop the bad guy.

    http://ozarksfirst.com/search-fulltext?nxd_id=471637
     
  20. Jim Watson

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    I was burglarized when home the year before last.
    I guess the punk could have strangled me in my sleep but he just stole the guns I had out for cleaning and tinkering and crept back out.
    Now I have an alarm, and don't leave guns out.
     
  21. 9MMare

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    Sadly, here in W. WA today, a man was convicted of a felony charge after shooting 2 people who came to rob his home. He shot them in the driveway (at nite), after they didnt leave when asked, he fired warning shots, they shined lights in his eyes, and he killed them. He was determined not to have established that his life was in danger @[email protected] Dear Lord what a miscarriage of justice.
     
  22. Owen Sparks

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    I live in the rural South where it is assumed that most homes contain loaded firearms and most home owners will not hesitate to shoot a burglar. As a result home invasions are exceedingly rare here. Most break-ins occur during the day when people are at work. Every once in a while it happens when someone is home but almost always the victim is an elderly person who is known by the assailant and lets them in.
     
  23. Neverwinter

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    If his life was in danger, why did he shoot 2 warning shots? If only he had read more S&T threads, he might have known better.
     
  24. 2ndAmFan

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    Seems like most home invasions happen in big cities or in wealthy suburbs. I've read of them in San Antonio but none up in my neck of the woods. Of course there are a lot of gun owners in the area where I live and some weekends, occasionally even weekdays there is one heck of a lot of target shooting going on. Just driving down the nearest County Road on one of those days might deter a crook. And always know the laws where you live.
     
  25. 9mmepiphany

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    While this may be interesting, it isn't on-topic for this sub-forum

    If you'd like to discuss the S&T or the Legal factors to consider, please couch it in those terms and post in the other forum
     
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