Armed Self Defense Training Links - SHOOTING SCHOOLS/INSTRUCTORS ETC.

OK, folks, this one is a work in progress. It will take a while to put together a really useful list, but we have to start somewhere, and this is where. Please don't get insulted if you don't see your school, or your favorite school or instructor listed here. Just PM me the appropriate links, I will get them posted as soon as I can. Since THR is a site directed primarily at the armed citizen, trainers or facilities who limit themselves to LE/military only are not likely to be included here.

ETA: I really need the assistance of students/instructors/readers if this list is to become really useful. PLEASE if you know of schools or instructors I have not included here, PM me and let me know. If you find mistakes or out of date information, please let me know. This is YOUR list- it isn't mine. I'm just doing the typing. Thanks much! (090815)

And if you come across bad or broken links, please let me know about those as well via PM. I'm taking this on primarily as a personal project, other staff are always wecome to help out if they wish, but there aren't many of us to go around, and all of us have lives outside the board. So if construction and maintenance here lags a little, cut me some slack, OK? 8^)

Rather than make this an open discussion thread, I'm going to lock it from the beginning and ask that members PM me suggestions for addition here, WITH LINKS please. Links to reviews, AARs, discussion etc would be good as well. I'm going to try breaking this up into categories- fixed base schools, itinerant instructors, a state by state list, AARs/reviews/discussion, books and DVDs of interest, etc.

And here's the necessary disclaimer: Inclusion of any instructor/school/facility/product/book/DVD/website/organization etc. does not imply endorsement by THR or any member or members of the THR staff. These lists are provided for information and educational purposes as a convenience to members and guests of THR only. Neither THR nor any member or members of the staff at THR has received any compensation of any sort from any listed instructor/school/facility/product/book/DVD/website/organization etc. in return for being included here. It is our intent to provide as complete and accurate a listing as possible without intentionally excluding any legitimate instructor/school/facility/product/book/DVD/website/organization etc. Suggestions for any additional instructor/school/facility/product/book/DVD/website/organization are welcome. Please PM me.

And while we're on the legal bandwagon: Copyright stuff. This list is the property of TheHighRoad.org. It has been compiled from various web sources. It may be freely reproduced for any nonprofit educational or informational purpose without written permission so long as credit is given to TheHighRoad.org.

lpl

Edit 28Je09- due to recent software changes to the board, my edit dates do not currently appear at the bottom of each "post" here as they have before. As a result, starting today I am adding the 'date added' to the end of each entry that's added or changed here to reflect each entry's currency. It'll appear in parens in YYMMDD format (090628).

ETA, 090822 - The list is growing enough that I see a need to change its format slightly. As things evolve further, I'll be arranging each state's list of schools/instructors by town. That should make it easier for people to locate schools/instructors near them, which is the point of this exercise in the first place. Texas gets first dibs on the new format, just because that's where I was working when I decided the change might be helpful. It'll take time to revise the whole list to the new format- patience, please. The new format is Town Name, State - Name of Owner if available, Name of School - Link (Date added or modified)

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First Things First: Safety First. Safety Last. Safety Always. Here you have it, straight from the horse's mouth so to speak:

We hoped by this time that the standard rules of safe gunhandling would have become universal throughout the world. They have been arrived at by careful consideration over the years, and they do not need modification or addition. We trust that all the family have them by heart in all languages, but for those who came in late here they are again:

1) All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.

2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. (For those who insist that this particular gun is unloaded, see Rule 1.)

3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule. Its violation is directly responsible for about 60 percent of inadvertent discharges.

4) Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.

Those will do. We need all four and we do not need five. It should not be necessary to belabor this issue, but life is not perfect.
- from Jeff Cooper's Commentaries, Vol. 11, No. 4; April 2003 ( http://harris.dvc.org.uk/jeff/jeff11_4.html )

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GETTING STARTED- The Basics

Some shooters don't quite feel ready to take on a class from a nationally known instructor or school right out of the gate. True, it is sometimes easier to get your feet wet a little bit at the time when you first start out. And some shooters are unsure if they really are ready to spend the money it takes to attend a class from one of the 'name' schools. So for those looking to get started building a learning curve from the beginning, here are some suggestions.

Hunter Education/Hunter Safety Course Available in every state I know of, and often free or for minimal fees, these classes can provide a foundation for training for any shooter. Safety IS always first where firearms are concerned. For contacts in your state, see http://www.nrahq.org/hunting/statefishgame.asp .

NRA Classes The NRA certifies a great many instructors, who are teaching classes across the county in one of the largest efforts going to teach safe and sound gunhandling and shooting. To see if there is an NRA class available near you, go to http://www.nrahq.org/education/training/basictraining.asp . There's a locator tool on that page which will help you find classes available near you.

Appleseed Project The Revolutionary War Veterans Association wants to make sure America remains a nation of riflemen. For some time now they have been conducting Appleseed training sessions across the country, teaching rifle marksmanship to a host of shooters. For the training schedule, go to http://www.appleseedinfo.org/search-states.html, and for the home page, see http://www.appleseedinfo.org/ .

“Your weapon is your mind. Your gun is your tool. A lethal confrontation with firearms is about strategy and tactics, not just shooting.” -- Louis Awerbuck (from an interview with Bill Boatman, http://www.louisawerbuckgunningthroughgunsite.blogspot.com/ )

“Get the best training you can afford. But train with the understanding that firearms practice is about 75% physical and 25% mental. However, a gun fight is about 25% physical and 75% mental.” -- Clint Smith (quoted at http://www.safeism.com/pdfs/MWthoughts.pdf )

(Links checked & updated 110205)

 

Itinerant Instructors- Travelling Schools and Programs (Some Fixed Base Also)

Listed alphabetically-

Ayoob, Massad - Massad Ayoob Group - http://massadayoobgroup.com/

Cain, Randy - Cumberland Tactics - http://www.guntactics.com/schedule.htm

Chapman, John - LMSDefense - http://www.lmsdefense.com/lms/home/schedule

Defensive Concepts North Carolina - http://www.defensiveconceptsnc.com/

Farnam, John - Defense Training International, Inc. - http://www.defense-training.com/sched/schedform.html

Givens, Tom - Rangemaster - http://www.rangemaster.com/

Goodale, Pat - Practical Firearms Training - http://www.pgpft.com/

Gonzales, Jeff - Trident Concepts - http://www.tridentconcepts.com/index.aspx

Hamilton, Greg - InSights Training Center, Inc. - (EAST) http://www.insightstraining.com/eastCoast.asp , (WEST) http://www.insightstraining.com/westCoast.asp

Jeans, Bill - Morrigan Consulting - http://www.morr-con.com/schedule.html

Krystek, Steve - Progressive F.O.R.C.E Concepts - http://www.pfctraining.com/

Lamb, Kyle - Viking Tactics - http://www.vikingtactics.com/instruction.html

Modern Combative Systems - http://www.moderncombativesystems.com/

Pincus, Rob - I.C.E. Training - http://www.icetraining.us/training_calendar.php

Reitz, Scott - ITTS Inc - http://www.internationaltactical.com/class.asp

Rogers, Pat - E.A.G. Tactical- http://www.eagtactical.com/courseschedule.asp

Smith, Clint - Thunder Ranch - http://www.thunderranchinc.com/2007schedule.html

"Southnarc" - ShivWorks - http://www.shivworks.com/tutorials.asp

Suarez, Gabe - Suarez International - http://www.suarezinternational.com/tech.html

Vickers, Larry - Vickers Tactical - http://www.vickerstactical.com/ (updated 090822)

Yeager, James - Tactical Response - http://www.tacticalresponse.com/schedule.php

 

State List, A-F

Alabama

Birmingham, AL - Alabama Firearms Training Services, LLC - http://www.alabama-fts.com/ (090823)

[STRIKE]Boaz, AL - Sand Mountain Shooter's Club - http://www.sandmtnshootersclub.com/ (090823)[/STRIKE]

Coden, AL - Gunport First Class Arms Training - http://www.firstclassarmstraining.org/ (090823)

Coker, AL - Gun Logic Firearms - http://www.gunlogic.com/home.html (090823)

[STRIKE]Enterprise, AL - Front Sight Focus (Joshua Scott) - http://www.FrontSightFocus.org/ (100108)[/strike]

Gadsden, AL - Alabama Defensive Pistol Academy - http://www.adpa.biz/

Langston, AL - Tiger McKee, SHOOTRITE Firerms Academy LLC - http://www.shootrite.org/schedules/Schedules.html

Montgomery, AL - Defensive Options Group - http://www.optionsgroup.org/ (090823)

Prattville, AL - Prattville PD Firearms Safety/Familiarization Course - http://www.prattvilleal.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=159&catid=37&Itemid=148 (090823)

Alaska

Anchorage, AK - Alaska Tactical and Security, Inc. - http://www.alaskatactical.com/menu.html

Anchorage, AK - Firearms Training of Alaska - 2801 E. Tudor Rd., 99507 - (907) 522-5846 (no website found, same physical address as below listed at alaskayellowpages.com)

Anchorage, AK - Lobo Firearm Academy - 2801 E. Tudor Rd., 99507 - (907) 569-1911 (no website found)

Juneau, AK - JHETF Training Classes - http://www.birding.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=juneau_range.training

Kenai, AK - R & S Protection Services - http://www.alaska.net/~speedrck/training.html

Soldotna, AK - Peninsula Weapons Academy - 180 S. Binkley St., 99669 - (907) 262-9399 (no website found)

Arizona

Statewide - TrainMeArizona, the resource guide for firearms training in Arizona - http://trainmeaz.com/ (110328)

Chandler, AZ - Kent Turnipseed, Turnipseed Technique, Inc. - http://www.turnipseedstance.com/

[strike]Chino Valley, AZ - Bill Jeans, Morrigan Consulting - http://www.morr-con.com/schedule.html[/strike] (Closed as of January 2013, http://www.morr-con.com/)

Chino Valley, AZ - Pat Rogers, E.A.G. Tactical - http://www.eagtactical.com/courseschedule.asp

Chino Valley, AZ - Gabe Suarez, Suarez International - http://www.suarezinternational.com/tech.html

Marana, AZ - Collier's Ex-Caliber Inc. - http://www.c-x-c.com/ (090725)

Maricopa, AZ - Alyssa Petersen, Arizona Personal Protection, LLC - http://arizonapersonalprotection.com/default.aspx (090628)

Mesa, AZ - Arizona Gunteacher - http://www.arizonagunteacher.com/index.html (090829)

Mesa, AZ - David White, Desert West Firearms Training, LLC - http://www.desertwestfirearmstraining.com (090918)

Mesa, AZ - Jim Neff, Generations Firearm Training - http://www.generationsfirearm.com/ (090829)

Paulden, AZ - Buz Mills, Gunsite Academy, Inc. - http://www.gunsite.net/

Phoenix, AZ - Rick Barkett, Arizona Defensive Firearms Training - http://www.azccw.com (090628)

Phoenix, AZ - Force Training Systems - http://www.forcetrainingsystems.com/ (090824)

[strike]Prescott, AZ - Louis Awerbuck, Yavapai Firearms Academy LTD - http://www.yfainc.com/schedule.html[/strike] Activity suspended as of June 2014

Scottsdale, AZ - Doug Little, Armed Personal Defense Institute, - http://www.armedpersonaldefense.com/ (090725)

Show Low, AZ - Stephen P. Wenger, Defensive Use Of Firearms - http://www.spw-duf.info/

Sierra Vista, AZ - EXCEL Firearms Training Center - http://www.superquality.com/ (090822)

Arkansas

Arkansas Carry - AR general concealed carry information - http://www.arkansascarry.com/

Arkansas Concealed Carry Association - organization supporting concealed carry in AR - http://www.arkansascca.org/

Arkadelphia, AR - Edgar Collins, Concealed Handgun Licensing - http://www.cei.net/~e.collins/ (090725)

Conway, AR - Arkansas Arms And Ammo Inc. - http://arkansasarms.com/index.htm (090901)

Crawfordsville, AR - High Caliber Training (Tier 1 Group) - http://www.hicaltraining.com.php5-8.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/ ( http://www.T1G.com/ ) (091212)

Little Rock, AR - J. Al Alberius, Quality Firearms Training - http://www.jalberius.com/ (090901)

Marion, AR - Zane Boyd's Firearms Training - http://www.zaneboydtraining.com/ (090901)

Pine Bluff, AR - Blue Ribbon Firearms Training - http://www.manta.com/company/mmysg97 (090901)

Pine Bluff, AR - Pine Bluff Gun Club - http://www.pbgunclub.org/training/training.htm (090901)

Pulaski, AR - Arkansas Defensive Shooting Institute - http://www.arkansasdsi.com/index.html (090901)

California

Acton, CA - Mike Dalton, International Shootists Institute - http://www.isishootists.com/

Antelope, CA - Alpha Safety Training - http://www.alphasafetytraining.net/index.html (090823)

Aptos, CA - Front Sight Firearms Training Institute, (Offices) - http://www.frontsight.com/Schedule.asp?View=List Note: Range facilities in NV

Burlingame, CA - Scott Jackson, Bay Area Firearms Training Group - http://www.bayareafirearms.com/ (090725

Campbell, CA - Thomas Laye, Bay Area Professionals For Firearms Education - http://www.bayprofs.org/ (090725)

Castella, CA - Chris Ewens, BullsEye Tactical Firearms Training - http://www.guninstructor.com/ (090725)

Chino, CA - Civilian Arms Training - http://www.civilianarmstraining.com/ (090831)

Granada Hills, CA - Double Tap Training Center - http://www.doubletapshooting.com/ (090822)

Huntington Beach, CA - Greg Block, Self Defense Firearms Training - http://www.firearmstraining.com/ (090725)

Huntington Beach, CA - SureFire Institute - http://www.surefireinstitute.com/page/schedule

Los Angeles, CA - Dean Gamburd, Firearms Consultant - http://www.deangamburd.com/ (090822)

Los Angeles, CA - Scott Reitz, ITTS Inc - http://www.internationaltactical.com/class.asp

Modesto, CA - Trident Firearms Academy - http://www.tridentfirearmsacademy.com/ (101409)

Orange, CA - T. J. Johnston, AllSafe Defense Systems - http://www.allsafedefense.com/ (090628)

San Diego, CA - US Training Center - http://www.ustraining.com/new/index.asp (090925)

Torrance, CA - American CCW - http://www.americanccw.com/ (090823)

Torrance, CA - Private Gun Lessons - http://www.privategunlessons.com/index.html (090831)

Torrance, CA - ShootSafe Learning - http://www.shootsafelearning.com/ (090831)

Yorba Linda, CA - Firearms Training Associates - http://www.ftatv.com/home (090823)


Colorado

ColoradoShooting.org list- http://www.coloradoshooting.org/firearms_training.htm (100130)

Arvada, CO - Colorado Weapons Training - http://www.coloradoweaponstraining.com/ (100130)

Aurora, CO - On Target Firearms Training - http://www.ontargetfirearmstraining.com/index.php (100130)

Bailey, CO - Personal Defense Simulations - http://www.firearmsdefensetraining.com/ (100130)

Colorado Springs, CO - Kevin Polk, Colorado Firearm Safety Inc. - http://www.coloradofirearmsafety.com/ (090725)

Colorado Springs, CO - Colorado Handgun Safety (also teaching in Trinidad, Pueblo, Woodland Park, Denver, Longmont, Fort Collins, Grand Junction, Cheyenne and Laramie) - http://www.coloradohandgunsafety.com/index.html (100130)

Colorado Springs, CO - Defensive Handgun/Long Gun Training Association - http://www.dehlta.com/DeHLTAClasses.html (100130)

Colorado Springs, CO - Paul Paradis, Paradise Firearms - http://paradisefirearms.com/ (090824)

Colorado Springs, CO - Personal Defense Institute - http://personaldefenseinstitute.org/index.html (100130)

Colorado Springs, CO - Precision Defensive Shooting School - http://www.precisiondefensivess.net/ (100130)

Denver, CO - Equip2Conceal Firearms Group - http://www.equip2conceal.com/classes/colorado.html (100130)

Denver, CO - Pistol Masters - http://www.pistol-masters.com/Pistol_Masters_Home_Page.php
(100130)

Englewood, CO - Centennial Defense Academy - http://www.guntraining.biz/ (also in Ramah at Ben Lomond Gun Club) - http://www.guntraining.biz/ (100130)

Golden, CO - KSAT-5 Firearms Training - http://www.ksat-5.com/ (100130)

Greeley, CO - Colorado Shooting Sports - http://www.coloradoshootingsports.com/ (100130)

LaPorte, CO - John & Vicki Farnam, Defense Training International, Inc. - http://www.defense-training.com/sched/schedform.html

Littleton, CO - Paladin International LLC - http://www.paladin-firearms-training.net/ (100130)

Littleton, CO - Potomac Ltd. - http://www.potomacltd.com/ (100130)

Parker, CO - Personal Liberties Institute - http://www.garrensguns.com/ (100130)

Steamboat Springs, CO - Concealed Handgun Permits of Colorado - http://www.chpcolorado.com/ (100130)

Thornton, CO - ProFire USA Firearms Academy - http://www.profireusa.com/ (100130)

Thornton, CO - Protective Services Training & Consultants - http://www.pstcco.com/ (100130)

Windsor, CO - Rocky Mountain Gun Owners Concealed Weapons Training - http://www.rmgo.org/training/index.shtml (100130)

UNKNOWN LOCATION, CO (Folks, there's a dirt and snailmail world out there as well as a dotcom digital one. Listing street/mailing addresses plainly on your web sites isn't really too much to ask, is it??)

**** - Firearms Training Institute - http://www.firearms-training-institute.com/Home.html (100130)

**** - Makhaira Group - http://www.makhairagroup.com/index.htm (100130)

**** - Specialty Firearms Training - http://www.specialtyfirearmstraining.com/courses.htm (100130)

Connecticut

Bridgeport, CT - Bridgeport Shooting Range - http://www.bridgeportshootingrange.com/home.php (100131)

Bristol, CT - Wolf's Range - http://www.wolfsrange.com/instruction.html (100131)

Fairfield, CT - Blue Trail Range - http://www.bluetrailrange.com/Instruction.html (100131)

Fairfield, CT - Defense Associates - http://www.defenseassociates.com/ (090822)

New Milford, CT - Applied Protection Concepts - http://www.apctraining.com/home.php (100131)

New Milford, CT - Shooters Pistol Range - http://www.shooterspistolrange.com/training.html (100131)

North Haven, CT - Angelo Appi, Connecticut Firearms Safety LLC - http://www.ct-firearms-safety.com/ (090628)

Shelton, CT - Valley Firearms - http://www.valleyfirearms.com/classes.html (100131)

Torrington, CT - Tactical Arms - http://www.c3tactical.com/ (100131)

Westport, CT - Train2Shoot - http://train2shoot.com/ (100131)

Delaware

Updated 120306

Delaware Firearms Instructors List - http://www.usacarry.com/directory/category/firearm-instructors/delaware-firearm-instructors/

Delaware Firearms Training - http://www.delawarefirearmstraining.com/

Bear, DE - First State Firearms Training - http://sites.google.com/site/firststatefirearmstraining/

New Castle County, DE - Delaware Patriot - http://www.delawarepatriot.com/

Wilmington, DE - Omega Firearms Training - http://www.omegafirearmstraining.com/Delaware/index.html


Florida

Delray Beach, FL - Florida Firearms Training - https://floridafirearmstraining.com/Home_Page.html (090824)

Gainesville, FL - Gun Safety Florida - www.Gunsafetyfla.com

Jacksonville, FL - Gun Gallery - www.gungalleryjax.com

Kathleen, FL - Southern Exposure Training Facility - http://www.southernexposuretraining.com/ (100130)

Live Oak, FL - Massad Ayoob Group - http://massadayoobgroup.com/ (130214)

Miami, FL - Omi Ramirez - www.cwlmiami.com

Orlando, FL - TNFI LLC - http://sites.google.com/site/tnfillchomepage/ (10/12/09)

Orlando, FL - Wade Rorich, Bushido Tactical L.L.C. - http://www.bushidotactical.com

Tallahassee, FL - Steven G. Bass, Personal Security Institute - www.securityinstructor.weebly.com[/url

 

State List, G-L

Georgia

Atlanta, GA - Repellere Firearms Training - http://www.repellere.com/index.htm (090823)

Carrollton, GA - FIREARMZ - http://www.firearmz.net/ (090823)

Ellijay, GA - Rogers Shooting School - http://rogersshootingschool.com/ (110401)

Marietta, GA - King's Firearms Academy - Law Office main line 404-790-7345 (1750 Powder Springs Road, Suite 190-315, Marietta Georgia 30064 )

Peachtree City, GA - Harlan Hamlin, Personal Tactics - http://www.personaltactics.com/

Hawaii

Idaho

Post Falls, ID - Ed Santos, Center Target Sports - http://www.centertargetsports.com/ (090917)

Illinois

Illinois Carry - http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showforum=4 (Forum for statewide information re. carry and training) (112111)

Bartonville, IL - Carry Safely, Inc. http://carrysafely.com/ (112111)

Bloomingdale, IL - Firearm Training Institute - http://firearminstitute.com/ (112111)

Bloomington, IL - Darnall's Gun Works - http://www.darnalls.com/education_training.html (112111)

Chicago, IL - Chicago Land Firearm Training - http://www.chicagolandfirearmtraining.com/ (112111)

Crete, IL - Fortress Defense Consultants - http://www.fortressdefense.com/ (112111)

Downers Grove, IL - Spartan Tactical - http://www.teamspartan.com/teamspartan_firearms_training_courses.htm (112111)

Elk Grove Village, IL - GSD Consultants - http://gsdconsultantsfirearmtraining.com/ (112111)

Elmwood Park, IL - Illinois Gunworks - http://www.illinoisgunworks.com/default.htm (112111)

Hoffman Estates, IL - Marksmanship Training Group - http://www.marksmanshiptraining.net/ (112111)

Kankakee, IL - Illinois State Rifle Association - http://isra.org/range/ (112111)

Morris, IL - Firearm Safety Training - http://www.firearmsafetytraining.com/ (112111)

Northern Illinois - Safe Shot Ltd. - http://safeshotltd.com/ (112111)

Northlake, IL - American Firearms Training - http://americanfirearmstraining.blogspot.com/ (112111)

Peoria, IL - Professional Firearms Training - http://uritraining.com/ (112111)

Springfield, IL - Bullseye Firearms Training - http://bullseyefirearmsandtraining.com/ (112111)

Yorkville, IL - Firearms Safety Academy - http://www.firearmssafetyacademy.net/ (112111)

Midwest Training Group - http://midwesttraininggroup.net/ (112111)

Vital Defense Solutions - http://www.vitaldefensesolutions.com/ (112111)

Indiana

Richmond, IN - Brian K. LaMaster, Innovative Tactical Concepts - http://www.right2defend.com/index.htm (090717)

Rochester, IN - Frank Sharpe, Fortress Defense - http://www.fortressdefense.com/index.html (110824)

Iowa

Kansas

Bonner Springs, KS - Target Master Shooting Academy LLC - http://www.targetmasteracademy.com/index.html (090823)

Kentucky

Kentucky Coalition To Carry Concealed Instructor List - http://www.kc3.com/self_defense/CCDW-Instructors.htm (011312)

USA Carry Firearms Instructors List - http://www.usacarry.com/directory/category/firearm-instructors/kentucky-firearm-instructors/ (011312)

Cave City, KY - American Institute of Marksmanship LLC - http://www.aimperfect.com/ (Updated 011312)

Cave City, KY - Threat Solutions LLC - http://www.threatsolutionsusa.com/ (011312)

Florence, KY - Defensive Handgun Training - http://www.DefensiveHandgunTraining.com/ (011312)

Jeffersonville, KY - Harmony Hollow Firearms Training - http://harmonyhollowpoint.vpweb.com/ (011312)

Louisville, KY - Real World Impact - http://kyfirearmstraining.com/ (011312)

Louisiana

[strike]Baton Rouge, LA - Paul Gomez, Louisiana Self Defense - http://www.louisianaselfdefense.com/calendar.html[/strike] RIP, Paul - you left us too soon.

Maurepas, LA - Mike Pizzolatto, Never Say Die Firearms Training - http://www.mikepizz.com/index.html (100130)

 

State List, M-O

Maine

Maryland

Massachusetts

North Billerica, MA - Michael de Bethencourt, Northeast Tactical Schools - http://www.snubtraining.com/

Michigan

Alto, MI - Condition Zero Training Group - http://www.CONDITIONZEROTRAINING.com/ (v130325/110503)

Benton Harbor, MI - Paladin Combatives - http://paladincombatives.com/ (140318)

Birmingham, MI - Triad Tactical - http://www.triad-tactical.com/index.html (v130325/090830)

Grand Juncrion, MI - Bob's Bunker - http://www.bobsbunker.com/ (v130325/090901)

Lake City, MI - Marksmanship Training Center - http://www.marksmanshiptrainingcenter.com/default.aspx (130325)

Ledge, MI - Jericho Defense - http://jericho-defense.com/ (140318)

Livonia, MI - Ranger Firearm Instruction - http://rangerfirearminstruction.com/ (140318)

Michigan Center, MI - Patriot Defense Training - http://www.PatriotDefenseTraining.com/ (140318)

Oxford, MI - CCW Solutions - http://www.ccw-solutions.com/ (v130325/090725)

Shelby TWP, MI - Close Quarter Tactical - http://www.cqtusa.com/main/default.aspx
(140318)

Sterling Heights, MI - Rick's Firearm Academy - http://www.detroitccw.com/ (v130325/090822)

Various Locations - Live Safe Academy - http://www.livesafeacademy.com/home.html
(140318)

? - Michigan Defensive Firearm Institute - http://trainmdfi.com/

Minnesota

Minnesota Association Of Defensive Firearms Instructors (MADFI) Instructor Roster - http://madfi.org/roster.php (140821)

Alexandria, MN - Minnesota Carry Academy LLC - https://www.mncarryacademy.com/ (140821)

Anoka, MN - MN Firearms Training - http://mnfirearms.com/ (140821)

Burnsville, MN - Attitude Arms and Ammunition - http://www.attitudeaa.net/index.html (140821)

Chaska, MN - Allied Tactical Defense - http://alliedtacticaldefense.com/ (140821)

Dodge Center, MN - Precision Plus Firearms Training - http://www.precisionplusfirearms.com/ (140821)

Duluth, MN - Gunthorp - http://www.gunthorp.com/index.html (140821)

Eden Prarie, MN - SDI/Self Defense Initiatives - http://sditraining.net/ (140821)

Hamel, MN - Firearms Training MN, LLC - http://firearmstrainingmn.com/ (140821)

Maple Grove, MN - MindSight Firearms Training - http://www.minnesotafirearmstraining.com/ (140821)

Minnesota Personal Safety Training - http://mnpersonalsafetytraining.com/index.cfm/pageid/40 (140821)

Monticello, MN - Mid-Minnesota Self Defense - http://midmnselfdefense.com/index.html (140821)

Plymouth, MN - Metro Defense Training - http://www.metrodefense.com/ (140821)


Mississippi

Lumberton, MS - Elite Arms Training - http://www.elitearmstraining.com/ (090822)

"Southnarc" - ShivWorks, contact via email from website - http://www.shivworks.com/tutorials.asp

Missouri

Bland, MO - Armed Missouri, Inc. - http://www.armedmissouri.com/home.htm (091025)

Springfield, MO - Canovi and Associates - http://www.mattcanovi.com/ (090725)

Montana

Nebraska

Nevada

Deeth, NV - Robert C. Buckley, Arms-R-Us LLC - http://www.arms-r-us.com/ (090725)

Las Vegas, NV - Steve Krystek, Progressive F.O.R.C.E Concepts - http://www.pfctraining.com/

Reno, NV - Tom Cardoza, Above And Beyond Firearms Training - http://www.aboveandbeyondccw.com/

Reno, NV - WEICOR Firearms Training LLC - http://weicorfirearmstraining.com/ (090823)

Sparks, NV - John Chapman, LMSDefense - http://www.lmsdefense.com/lms/home/schedule

Sparks, NV - Semper Firearms Training - http://www.semperfirearms.com/index.htm (090823)

New Hampshire

Ayoob, Massad - Lethal Force Institute, Concord, NH - http://www.ayoob.com/LFIschedule.html

New Jersey

Nutley, NJ - Anthony P. Colandro, Firearms Training Center - http://www.firearmstrainingcenter.com/

River Edge, NJ - Albert Timen, International Security Instructors - http://www.isi-team.com/main.html (revised 110314)

New Mexico

Raton, NM - Practical Shooting Academy - http://www.practicalshootingacademy.com/ (090830)

Raton, NM - Professional Marksmen - http://www.professionalmarksmen.com/ (100215)

New York

Dover Plains, NY & Liverpool, NY - Patrick Sacco, Verdad Investigations and Protections Inc. - http://www.verdadinvestigations.com/ (091112)

Farmingdale, NY - M. David Aspesi, Firearms Training Institute, Inc. - http://www.firearmstraininginstitute.com/

Rochester, NY - David S. Jenkins, Rochester Personal Defense - http://www.safeinrochester.com/

Utica, NY - Chris Fry, Modern Defensive Training Systems, LLC - http://www.mdtstraining.com/ (090824)

North Carolina

Charlotte, NC - Defensive Concepts North Carolina - http://www.defensiveconceptsnc.com/ (091018)

Fayetteville, NC - Kyle Lamb, Viking Tactics - http://www.vikingtactics.com/instruction.html

Fayetteville, NC - Larry Vickers, Vickers Tactical - http://www.vickerstactical.com/Training/2008Schedule.aspx

Lumberton, NC - Donald K. Allen, NRA Pistol & NC CCH Instructor - [email protected] (090809)

Matthews, NC - Tom Iradi, Eagle Rock Training Systems - http://www.eaglerockts.com/Home.html

Moyock, NC - US Training Center - http://www.ustraining.com/new/index.asp (090925)

Waxhaw, NC - Integrated Self Defense - http://www.isdnc.org/ (091110)

North Dakota

Ohio

Ohio CCW Information Center - http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/ohio-ccw-information-center

OHIO CCW CLASSES/INSTRUCTORS BY COUNTY - http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/ohio-ccw-classes-and-instructors (140804)

? - Armed2Defend - http://armed2defend.com/ (140804)

Barberton, OH - Workman Firearms Training and Safety Classes - http://www.workmanfirearmstraining.com/ (090830)

Columbus, OH - Beechwold Training Center - http://www.centralohioccw.com/Training-Classes.html (140804)

Columbus, OH - Columbus Concealed Carry - http://columbusccw.com/ (140804)

Columbus, OH - Mid-Ohio Firearms Training Academy - http://www.moftaohio.com/ (140804

New Albany, OH - AimHi - http://www.nasr.com/ (140804)

Sunbury, OH - Mid Ohio Concealed Carry - http://www.midohioconcealedcarry.com/HOME.html (140804)

Upper Sandusky, OH - North Central Ohio Concealed Carry Group - http://ncoccg.com/location.html (140804)

West Union, OH - Benner, John, Tactical Defense Institute - http://tdiohio.com/home_page/ (update url 140804)

Xenia, OH - Personal Protection Concepts - http://www.ppctraining.com/ (090822)

Oklahoma

Shawnee, OK - Paul Abel, Shoot-N-Iron, Inc. - http://www.shoot-n-iron.com/

Oregon

Lakeview, OR - Clint Smith, Thunder Ranch - http://www.thunderranchinc.com/home/index.html (updated 090822)

Lebanon, OR - Oregon Firearms Academy - http://www.oregonfirearmsacademy.com/ (090725)

Salem, OR - Jim Jacobe, The Jacobe Group - http://www.jimjacobe.com/ (090822)

 

State List, P-Z

Pennsylvania

Bristol, PA - Ready Aim Fire - http://www.rafire.com/raf/index.htm (090823)

Easton, PA - Gunskills Training Group - http://www.gunskills.com/ (090822)

Felton, PA - Modern Combative Systems - http://www.moderncombativesystems.com/

Harrisburg, PA - Skip Gochenour, American Tactical Shooting Association - http://www.teddytactical.com/ (home of the National Tactical Invitational)

Huntingdon Valley, PA - Personal Defense Solutions - http://www.personaldefensesolutions.net/index.htm (090823)

McKean, PA - C. Robert McDowell, Lethal Weapons Training Academy - http://www.lethalweaponstraining.com/

Pittsburgh, PA - FIRE - Firearms Instruction Research and Education Institute - http://www.fireinstitute.org/ (100130)

Rhode Island

South Carolina

Florence, SC - Paladin Training Inc. - http://www.paladintraining.com/index.html (130519)

Greenville, SC - Shooterszone Firearms Training Academy - http://shooterszone.com/index.html (090823)

Liberty, SC - Larry R. Smith, Foothills Firearms Training Center - http://www.cwpclass.com/ (091101)

Piedmont, SC - Mark Bilicki, Aero-Tech Firearms Training And Defense - http://www.aerotechfirearms.com/

(Statewide) - GrassRoots South Carolina CWP Instructor Members List (County By County) - http://www.scfirearms.org/Training/CWP/GrassRootsCWPTrainerList.htm (091101)

(Various Locations) - South Carolina Firearms Training - http://www.scfirearmstraining.com/ (091101)

South Dakota

Tennessee

Camden, TN - James Yeager, Tactical Response - http://www.tacticalresponse.com/schedule.php

Goodlettsville, TN - Randy Cain, Cumberland Tactics - http://www.guntactics.com/schedule.htm

Greeneville, TN - Dr. Clifford E. Bryant, TAC2 - http://www.tac2.com/ (090822)

[strike]Memphis, TN - Tom Givens, Rangemaster - http://www.rangemaster.com/[/strike] Closed 8/2014

Nashville, TN - J. Buford Tune, Academy of Personal Protection And Security - http://www.appstraining.com/ (090822)

Oak Ridge, TN - Austin Crow, Austin's Tennessee Firearms School - http://www.firearmsclasses.com/ (090822)

Powell, TN - Defensive Solutions - http://www.defensivesolutions.com/ (090822)

Smyrna, TN - Critical Incident Strategies - http://www.criticalincidentstrategies.com/ (091019)

Smyrna, TN - SafetySouth Training Systems, LLC - www.safetysouth.net (091019)

Texas

Argyle, TX - Denton County Sports Association, Inc. - http://www.dentoncountysports.com/

Arlington, TX - North Texas Tactical Training, LLC - http://www.northtexastactical.com/ (090822)

Austin, TX - Bransford, Ross and Dottie, CHL-Texas - http://chl-texas.com/ (090725)

Austin, TX - Double Eagle Firearms Training - http://deftraining.com/ (090830)

Bryan, TX - KR Training - http://www.krtraining.com/ (090901)

Cedar Park, TX - Gonzales, Jeff, Trident Concepts - http://www.tridentconcepts.com/index.aspx

Flower Mound, TX - D & L Training Academy LLC - http://www.mychl.com/ (090822)

Grand Prarie, TX - Hairston Handgun CHL & Firearms Training - http://www.hairstonhandgun.com/index.html (090823)

Mingus, TX - Davison, Bill, TacPro Shooting Center - http://www.tacproshootingcenter.com/ (090717)

Nacogdoches, TX - Howe, Paul, Combat Shooting And Tactics - http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com/ (980912)

San Antonio, TX - Wetmore Shooting Sports - http://www.wetmoreshootingsports.com/ (090822)

Spring, TX - Hess Defense - http://hessdefense.com/ (120310)

Terrell, TX - Gunplay USA - http://www.gunplay.us/ (090822)

Utah

Davies, Casey - Utah Concealed Firearm Permits, Cottonwood Heights, UT - http://utahconcealedfirearmpermits.webs.com/ (090725)

Self Defense Solutions, Salt Lake City, UT - http://www.self-defensesolutions.com/ (090725)

Utah Polite Society- Utah's Armed Self Defense Laboratory- http://www.utahpolitesociety.org/ (090725)

Watt, Randy - SRW Inc. - http://www.srwsplops.com/ (090725)

Vermont

Leroux, Gary - Vermont Tactical Defensive Firearms Training, Montgomery Center, VT - http://www.vttac.com/

Virginia

Goodale, Pat - Practical Firearms Training, Covington, VA - http://www.pgpft.com/

Pincus, Rob - I.C.E. Training, Virginia Beach, VA - http://www.icetraining.us/index.php (updated 090815 to reflect move from CO to VA)

Middlebrooks, D. A. - Tactical Shooing Academy, Surry, VA - http://www.tacticalshooting.com (URL updated 11/07/28)

Tactical Pink - near Warrenton, VA - http://www.tactical-pink.com/

Woodbridge, VA - SafePistol - http://www.safepistol.com/ (090822)

Washington

Bellevue, WA - Greg Hamilton, InSights Training Center, Inc. - (EAST) http://www.insightstraining.com/eastCoast.asp , (WEST) http://www.insightstraining.com/westCoast.asp

Colville, WA - Force Options - http://www.forceoptions.net/ (090830)

Onalaska, WA - Marty & Gila Hayes, Firearms Academy of Seattle - http://www.firearmsacademy.com/schedule.htm

West Virginia

Elk Garden, WV - Storm Mountain Training Center - http://www.stormmountain.com/ (090822)

Wisconsin

Wyoming

 

Books, Periodicals, DVDs, Videos Etc.

Awerbuck, Louis
COMBAT SHOTGUN - Concepts, Skills, and Tactics for Employing Shotguns in Personal Combat (DVD) - http://shop.paladin-press.com/product/40/25

SAFE AT HOME - A Thinking Man's Guide to Home Defense (DVD) - http://www.paladin-press.com/product/129/73

Ayoob, Massad
- see http://www.ayoob.com/cgi-bin/miva?M...reen=PROD&Store_Code=Ayoob&Product_Code=AYOOB for a partial list (090816)

Gun Digest Book of Combat Handgunnery - http://www.gunshowbooks.com/cgi-bin/webc.exe/st_prod.html?p_prodid=GS390923&sid=9a1Ux7zh (090816)

Gun Digest Book of Concealed Carry - http://www.backwoodshome.com/store/files/fh10.html (090816)

Bird, Chris
The Concealed Handgun Manual: How to Choose, Carry, and Shoot a Gun in Self Defense - http://www.privateerpublications.com/book-chm.html

Thank God I Had A Gun: True Accounts of Self-Defense - http://www.privateerpublications.com/book-tgi.html

Cooper, Jeff
Principles Of Personal Defense - http://www.paladin-press.com/product/772/27

Howe, Paul
LEADERSHIP AND TRAINING FOR THE FIGHT: A FEW THOUGHTS ON LEADERSHIP AND TRAINING FROM A FORMER SPECIAL OPERATIONS SOLDIER - http://www.authorhouse.com/Bookstore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=35146

The Tactical Trainer: A Few Thoughts On Training And Training Management From A Former Special Operations Soldier - http://www.authorhouse.com/Bookstore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=61461

Kenik, David
Armed Response: A Comprehensive Guide To Using Firearms For Self Defense - http://www.armedresponsetraining.com/

Lamb, Kyle
Green Eyes And Black Rifles: The Warrior's Guide To The Combat Carbine - http://www.vikingtactics.com/book.html

Lovette, Ed
The Snubby Revolver - http://www.paladin-press.com/product/827/43

McKee, Tiger
The Book Of Two Guns- The Martial Art Of The 1911 Pistol And AR Carbine - http://www.shootrite.org/book/book.html

Miller, Rory
Meditations On Violence: A Comparison Of Martial Arts Training & Real World Violence
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1594391181...iveASIN=1594391181&adid=0HT18KTYDG5HGPPBZ2X4&
(110508)

National Rifle Association
Basics of Personal Protection in the Home DVD - http://materials.nrahq.org/go/product.aspx?productid=ES 26840

NRA Guide to the Basics of Personal Protection in the Home (textbook) - http://www.nrastore.com/nra/Product.aspx?productid=PB+01781

The NRA Guide to the Basics of Personal Protection Outside the Home (textbook) - http://www.nrastore.com/nra/Product.aspx?productid=PB 01765

Pincus, Rob
Combat Focus Shooting - http://www.icestore.us/servlet/the-3/tactical,-training,-guns,-handguns,/Detail (090815)

Personal Defense DVD Series - http://www.icestore.us/servlet/the-DVDs/Categories (090815)

Smith, Clint
Defensive Shotgun DVD - http://www.americanhandgunner.com/webblastTRDS.html

Stanford, Andy
Surgical Speed Shooting - http://www.amazon.com/Surgical-Spee...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1222834082&sr=1-1

Fight At Night - http://www.amazon.com/Fight-At-Nigh...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1222860539&sr=1-1

Van Wyk, Charl
Shooting Back- The Right And Duty Of Self Defense - http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1960

Women and Guns (Periodical) - http://www.womenshooters.com/

Workman, Dave
Washington State Gun Rights and Responsibilities - http://www.saf.org/default.asp?btitle=&bauthor=workman&p=booklist (090816)

 

AARs, Class Reviews and Evaluations, Etc.

Awerbuck, Louis - Yavapai Firearms Academy LTD - Tactical Shotgun Stage I - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=202292
2) http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3777
3) http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-3804.html
4) http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=9&f=19&t=226391&page=1

Civilian Arms Training, Chino, CA - Defensive Shotgun - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=472188 (090831)

Farnam, John & Vicki - Defensive Handgun Course - http://www.personaldefensesolutions.net/farnam_article.htm (2006)

McKee, Tiger - Precision Rifle II - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=192183

Pincus, Rob - I. C. E. Training - Combat Focus Shooting course - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=411640

"Southnarc" - ShivWorks - PUC and ECQC 1/2 - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=311350

Stanford, Andy - OPS - Three-Day Rifle/Pistol Tactics - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=282908

 

Websites And Web Documents

.223 Drywall Penetration Experiment - http://how-i-did-it.org/drywall/index.html

A Human Right (Oleg Volk) - http://www.a-human-right.com/

Artwohl, Alexis - http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2002/oct2002/oct02leb.htm#page_19 - Perceptual and Memory Distortion During Officer-Involved Shootings
- http://www.aele.org/law/2008FPJUN/wb-19.pdf - Perceptual and Memory Distortions During Officer Involved Shootings (2008 Update) (Thanks, pax!) (100302)

ATSA - American Tactical Shooting Association - http://www.teddytactical.com/

Ballistic Radio (55KRC Talk Radio) webcasts - http://ballisticradio.com/

Bane, Michael - Best Defense: Survival (television, Outdoor Channel) - http://www.outdoorchannel.com/Shows/TheBestDefenseSurvival/

Black Man With A Gun - http://www.blackmanwithagun.com/

Chiron (Blog, Rory Miller) - http://chirontraining.blogspot.com/ (110508)

Civilian Gun Self-Defense Blog (Clayton Cramer) - http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/blogger.html (NOTE: link now redirects to The Armed Citizen at http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/ . If the redirect fails, try the Armed Citizen link directly.) (100206)

Down Range Television - http://www.downrange.tv/

Farnam, John - Quips, Quotes and Lessons Learned - http://www.defense-training.com/quips/quips.html

Firearms For Self Defense (Janis Cortese) - http://www.io.com/~cortese/firearms/index.html

Firearms Site - http://www.firearmssite.com/ (090822)

Flinch, Fixing - http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=82124&hl=flinch breaker&st=0

GunCite - http://www.guncite.com/ (Articles, Statistics, etc) (090829)

Guns In Self Defense - Station4News - http://station4news.com/category/guns-in-self-defense/ (130527)

Gunshopfinder - http://www.gunshopfinder.com/

Handgun Place - http://handgunplace.com/

Handgunlaw.us - http://www.handgunlaw.us/

Hi Powers and Handguns (Stephen A. Camp) - http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/index.html

Jackson, Kathy - The Cornered Cat - http://www.corneredcat.com/

MacYoung, Marc 'Animal' - No Nonsense Self-Defense - http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/

Modern Firearms And Ammunition - http://world.guns.ru/main-e.htm

Mouseguns - http://www.mouseguns.com/

Paladin Training (Florence, SC) Security Matters webcasts - http://www.paladintraining.com/voice.html

Personal Defense Solutions Articles Page - http://www.personaldefensesolutions.net/articles.htm

Personal Defense TV - http://gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satellite/IMO_GA/Page/GA_PDTV

Self Defense, Handgun and Firearms Articles From Shoot-N-Iron Academy - http://www.shoot-n-iron.com/self-defense-handgun-firearms-articles.asp

Simons, D. J., & Chabris, C. F. (1999) - Gorillas in our midst: Sustained inattentional blindness for dynamic events. Perception, 28, 1059-1074 - https://www.psych.uiuc.edu/reprints/index.php?page=request_article&site_id=1&article_id=14 (Request form for email copy of article- Thanks, pax!) (100302)

Snubnose Files - http://www.snubnose.info/

Steele, Lisa J. Defending The Self Defense Case, Champion Magazine: March 2007, p.34. Washington, DC; National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers - http://www.nacdl.org/public.nsf/01c...10c34fff2852572b90069bc3c?OpenDocument&Click=

The Taffin Tests - http://www.sixguns.com/tests/index.html (Revolvers)

U.S. Concealed Carry Reciprocity Map, NRA ILA- http://www.nraila.org/recmap/usrecmap.aspx

UseofForce.US - http://www.useofforce.us/

Wenger, Stephen P. - Defensive Use Of Firearms - http://www.spw-duf.info/

WHERE TO SHOOT (Range Directory) - http://www.wheretoshoot.org/Find_Range/index.asp

Will It Hurt Me In Court? Weapons Issues and the Fears of the Legally Armed Citizen, by Glenn Meyer. The Jury Expert, Vol. 21 Issue 5, Sept 2009. - http://www.astcweb.org/public/publi...es-and-the-Fears-of-the-Legally-Armed-Citizen

 

Glossary of Acronyms and Initialisms (for lack of a better place to put it)

ADEE - Avoid, Disengage, Escape, Evade
AOJP - Ability, Opportunity, Jeopardy, Preclusion
BUIS - Back-up Iron Sights
DOA - Dead on Arrival
DRT - Dead Right There
IBD - Israeli Battle Dressing
SODDI - Some Other Dude Did It
TODDI- That Other Dude Did It
VBC - Victim By Choice
VCA - Violent Criminal Actor

- thanks to John Farnam for the motivation to put this up - http://www.defense-training.com/quips/26Mar09.html

 

Organizations Of Interest

Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network - Onalaska, WA - http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/

Armed Females Of America - http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/

Arming Women Against Rape And Endangerment (AWARE) - http://www.aware.org/

Association For Women's Self Defense Advancement - http://awsda.org/awsda/

Force Science Institute, Ltd. - http://www.forcescience.org/ (090824)

Gun Owners of America - http://gunowners.org/

Handgun Law - http://www.handgunlaw.us/ (Concealed Carry Laws, Reciprocity etc)

International Defensive Pistol Association - http://www.idpa.com/

International Practical Shooting Confederation - http://www.ipsc.org/

Jews For The Preservation Of Firearms Ownership - http://www.jpfo.org/

National Rifle Association - http://www.nrainstructors.org/CourseCatalog.aspx

Pink Pistols - http://www.pinkpistols.org/index2.html

Second Amendment Foundation - http://www.saf.org/

Second Amendment Sisters - http://www.2asisters.org/

Single Action Shooting Society - http://www.sassnet.com/

Students For Concealed Carry On Campus - http://concealedcampus.org/

Women Against Gun Control - http://www.wagc.com/

 

Other Fora Of Interest

Most of the boards listed here are primarily training oriented, or have a training subforum like S&T at THR. Standards of behavior on the sites listed here may be considerably more demanding than on the general run of Internet fora- be advised of this fact if you go visiting!
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Bayou Shooter- Louisiana's Premier Shooting Community
http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/ (090920)

The Firing Line (THR's sister site)
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/index.php (090920)

PistolForum.com - http://www.pistol-forum.com/ (120306)

10-8 Forum ('big boy' rules apply)
http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php (090920)

Total Protection Interactive ('big boy' rules apply)
http://www.totalprotectioninteractive.com/forum/ (090920)