ARs prices are dropping like crazy
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Xfire68
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I can't even imagine the look on the faces of those that paid 3k for a Colt AR or 2k for a Bushmaster!
Ouch!
Ouch!
In response to a post on page 3. Sorry, didn't realize there where I was in the thread...
That's an age old debate (5.56-.223... 5.56 is supposedly higher power and microscopically larger/longer in size. I've heard of .223s shooting them when chamber checked, but most offer a warning it's not the best thing to do.
That's an age old debate (5.56-.223... 5.56 is supposedly higher power and microscopically larger/longer in size. I've heard of .223s shooting them when chamber checked, but most offer a warning it's not the best thing to do.
Twmaster
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No.Colt is moving to Texas.
A company that makes some rifles under license from Colt is moving to Texas.
http://www.coltcompetitionrifle.com/
http://www.reporternews.com/news/2013/apr/08/colt-competition-plant-coming-to-breckenridge/
"Colt Competition is part of Bold Ideas Inc., which licenses Colt’s iconic brand to craft competition shooting rifles."
So, no, it's not Colt.
ammo is still 150-200% of what it used to cost. I have no doubt it will come down again, but like all things it will take a season's worth of time. I wager by July-August ammo will be findable again.
Seeing ARs back at normal prices is good. It's a shame AKs are pretty much stuck where they are now.
Seeing ARs back at normal prices is good. It's a shame AKs are pretty much stuck where they are now.
SSN Vet
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WOW...
LPKs available at Midway and PSA ..... and on sale at PSA for pre-hyperactivity prices.
Oh happy days are here again, the sky is bright and clear again.... happy days are here again
LPKs available at Midway and PSA ..... and on sale at PSA for pre-hyperactivity prices.
Oh happy days are here again, the sky is bright and clear again.... happy days are here again
Ed Ames
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Not ARs but I saw something amazing today.
Local gun store had a stack of Kel-tec RFBs on display...
Even more astounding...they were priced at $1199 each!
Yeah, availability of black plastic is getting better.
Local gun store had a stack of Kel-tec RFBs on display...
Even more astounding...they were priced at $1199 each!
Yeah, availability of black plastic is getting better.
straightShot
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PSA can keep their $179.99 Bolt Carrier Groups. I won't do it. At $135, Windham's prices are still high, but that's where I went.
tjs45d
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Local LGS Had DPMS at $1099.00
Local LGS had 2 or 3 NEW DPMS rifles for sale today, at $1099.00. Still too much in my opinion.. By the way, ammo of all kinds was almost extinct at this local gun store.. About 20 boxes of 20 rd. .223 and 10 or so boxes of .45ACP. No 9mm to be seen.. They just implemented a 2 box limit on ammo purchases in the last few weeks.. This LGS has always been the "go to" shop for reloading supplies and a wide variety of ammo.. Shelves are VERY empty...! I do think it WILL turn around, but I would like to see the local LGS guys' to be able to stock their shelves..!!!
Not beating up on the dealer, but are the mfg's raising prices any due to the so-called "panic"..? If I remember correctly, these rifles were around $800.00 +- before all the hoopla..?
Local LGS had 2 or 3 NEW DPMS rifles for sale today, at $1099.00. Still too much in my opinion.. By the way, ammo of all kinds was almost extinct at this local gun store.. About 20 boxes of 20 rd. .223 and 10 or so boxes of .45ACP. No 9mm to be seen.. They just implemented a 2 box limit on ammo purchases in the last few weeks.. This LGS has always been the "go to" shop for reloading supplies and a wide variety of ammo.. Shelves are VERY empty...! I do think it WILL turn around, but I would like to see the local LGS guys' to be able to stock their shelves..!!!
Not beating up on the dealer, but are the mfg's raising prices any due to the so-called "panic"..? If I remember correctly, these rifles were around $800.00 +- before all the hoopla..?
silicosys4
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Saw a Colt 6920 in a Wal Mart this week for the first time in 4 months, it was the MOE edition for $1197.
TheSaint
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Can either of you gentlemen speak to the quality of the PSA versus Windham quality on the BCG? I'm building my first ever AR and am still in need of a BCG to complete my project, but don't want to pay extra if it looks like the prices are finally headed south. What is a reasonable price to pay for a BCG of decent quality? I still have two months to wait for the rest of my gear to show up, so I'm in no hurry, due to backorders.
Twmaster
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The PSA and Windham ought to be OK. The Windham might be better as they are what used to be Bushmaster.
Either brand will be fine for a civilian AR.
Either brand will be fine for a civilian AR.
TheSaint
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http://www.windhamweaponry.com/shopexd.asp?id=23
http://www.windhamweaponry.com/shopexd.asp?id=24
I'm just wondering what's the difference between their m16 and ar15 BCG?
http://www.windhamweaponry.com/shopexd.asp?id=24
I'm just wondering what's the difference between their m16 and ar15 BCG?
straightShot
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If you look at the bottom rear, the semi-auto carrier is cut out. On the M16 bolt carrier, it is not. The rear of the AR15 bolt carrier looks like an L that has been rotated 90 degrees clockwise. The M16 bolt carrier rear looks cyclindrical/blocky at the end since there isn't a cutout. Either one works fine in an AR15. You won't notice a difference with either one.
The question was raised as to the quality of PSA vs. Windham BCGs. I don't know who manufactures either one, so I can't delve into the metallurgical aspects and do some sort of scientific comparison. I can tell you that my Windham bolts carriers have chrome lining and work fine. On the other hand, I have no experience with and can't comment on the PSA BCGs since I don't own one.
Good luck.
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TheSaint
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Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering if the m16 was built to a higher quality standards to presumably withstand full-auto abuse? Even though I'm only building a semi-auto ar15, if either would work, and both are the same price, I was thinking about getting the m-16 version. Once again, thanks for the education!
Elkins45
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Whittaker's in western KY had a whole rack full of AR's in stock when I was in there late Tuesday. I saw a NIB S&W for <$800.
Didn't check to see if they had any ammo, but the only primers in stock were SP. I bought 5000 for $175. That's about what they were selling for last summer/fall before Sandy Hook.
Didn't check to see if they had any ammo, but the only primers in stock were SP. I bought 5000 for $175. That's about what they were selling for last summer/fall before Sandy Hook.
45bthompson
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I just bought a NIB 6921 for $1300! Thats the best price I've seen since 2008. Impactguns still has them listed at $1900 out of stock.
CDNN has a Colt dissapator and a light carbine for $999
XD Fan
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I was able to buy 100 rds. of .223 last Sunday at Walmart for $36 with tax. That was cheaper than before the panic. It was BrasMaxx (by Tulammo). Don't know if it is any good (I don't shoot steel cased Tulammo because I have had problems in the past.), but I am happy to try it at that price.
What I love is how many of them are trying to sell those same Colts and Bushmasters at the same ridiculous prices now and saying they "only want to sell it for what they have in it".
That's good that the prices are dropping. The thing about antigun people is that they just drive demand in people who never even considered buying guns before. I know people who had no inkling of buying one until this discussion started. As opposed to achieving their goals, they contributed to more people joining the pool of lawful citizens who do want to protect themselves. We all know how hard it is to wait for help to come when the SHTF. It's better to have it and not need it.
As for the ammo, the hoarding will slow down. It has stimulated the economy more than one can imagine for gun and ammo dealers.
For the folks who were selling their guns well above what they paid, it was a good run for them. Sure they made their buck. Who can blame them? No worries. For the ones thinking they will sell for a high price now, well, They'll put it into their safe and be none the richer. Just like the real estate bubble.
As for the ammo, the hoarding will slow down. It has stimulated the economy more than one can imagine for gun and ammo dealers.
For the folks who were selling their guns well above what they paid, it was a good run for them. Sure they made their buck. Who can blame them? No worries. For the ones thinking they will sell for a high price now, well, They'll put it into their safe and be none the richer. Just like the real estate bubble.
Our local 'no haggle' gun shop has always kept his prices low.
His rack is now almost full of a wide range of ARs - he has stated he needs to cut back on his future AR orders.
Talked to him today - someone won? a KelTec KSG at a recent Friends of NRA dinner, but still hasn't picked it up. They wanted the shop to sell it for them for the inflated prices he reports seeing at online sites.
The owner refused - he says even though it's not the shop price gouging, many folks would not / could not differentiate, and his reputation would suffer.
BTW - the KSG owner kept telling the owner he was seeing $2600 tags on the KSG online. The owner told him it's about a $600 or so gun, and if he wanted anything more than that, he should pick it up and sell it online for whatever he wants.
I love my local gun shop!
His rack is now almost full of a wide range of ARs - he has stated he needs to cut back on his future AR orders.
Talked to him today - someone won? a KelTec KSG at a recent Friends of NRA dinner, but still hasn't picked it up. They wanted the shop to sell it for them for the inflated prices he reports seeing at online sites.
The owner refused - he says even though it's not the shop price gouging, many folks would not / could not differentiate, and his reputation would suffer.
BTW - the KSG owner kept telling the owner he was seeing $2600 tags on the KSG online. The owner told him it's about a $600 or so gun, and if he wanted anything more than that, he should pick it up and sell it online for whatever he wants.
I love my local gun shop!
RetiredUSNChief
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I suspect that there are two main groups who bought high:
One group would be the people who bought with the intent to own (based on the political climate and potential future unavailability) and who will kick themselves for having bought when the market was so high. But these people will likely bite the bullet on the loss, since they intended to keep the gun(s) anyway.
The other group would be the people who bought with the intent to sell later. These people are likely not only kicking themselves for having bought so high...and learning what it's like to be a long term owner of something they never really wanted anyway.
I'm sure some of the first group found themselves overextending their budgets and would like to recoup that. But them's the chances you take any time the market reacts like it did and people buy high.
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