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ARs prices are dropping like crazy

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by nathan, Apr 19, 2013.

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  1. Silverado6x6

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    Used to just see a local gun show every couple of months, now its every other week at various locations like a high school, community center or the local sports complex.

    Every other week, and they are packed.

    I bet Obama has a strategy to pass out "stimulus" to the gun shows just like he did to everything else that got a stimulus...and failed.
     
  2. CoRoMo

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    Did I just hear a bubble pop?
     
  4. Bruno2

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    Looked like there was only 1 for sale.
     
  5. justice06rr

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    Some companies did raise their prices based on demand, etc.

    For example Smith and Wesson M&P Sport were around $699 pre-panic. They have since gone up to $839 MSRP which is what I paid for mine last month. I verified this on the official S&W website.

    They will come down a bit eventually, but I fear we will never really see the "good ol days" again. Ammo has gone up a bit too; a few dollars per box due to inflation and demand.
     
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    It is good to see. My next build is going to be a 6.5 Grendel. I have the lowers already. I am also going to get some more 80 percent lowers and a new jig. My future AR builds will be my business only. I am sick of politicians who don't know what they are talking about trying to ban things they don't understand.
     
  8. Bullz

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    I wouldn't worry too much about the long term price of ammo and weapons. The market is getting pretty saturated. Over the last couple months I've been doing some research and formulating some business and pricing models around starting a new ammo factory. The long and sort of it as it pertains to current ammo pricing is this: 5.56 can be made and sold for approximately $0.25 per round (Direct sales/wholesale only) including a 25% markup over materials and overhead. That's what the steel case russian stuff sold for pre panic. FWIW, the price per round goes up to $0.30 - $0.35 with distribution costs to stores like walmart, etc.

    Which means that the market will move back to that pricing if it can be profitably made and sold at that price - which I now know it can be. Otherwise, some people are going to get together and start a profitable ammo company because there is a lot of room for profit between $0.25/round and the current pricing on 5.56. Keep in mind, $0.25/round ammo is nothing more than a basic quality grade range/plinking ammo... but I think that's anyone wants in bulk. Just some affordable training fodder. I also looked at 9mm, .45 and .308.

    The take away is... put aside your worries and fears because the current market prices on ammo are not sustainable in a capitalistic environment. The fact that Wal-mart never changed their pricing should offer some encouragement as that is the LOWEST price you are going to find in a conventional retail environment - i.e. not wholesale. They still have an empty shelf at my local wal-mart where the $7.38 federal .223 is supposed to get stocked.

    Although I have NOT done similar research on firearms - mostly because I couldn't care less about starting a weapons plant - I would have to believe that the same is true for guns (if not more so).

    So don't be surprised if you see S&W and Ruger offering factory rebates and other such incentives in Q3 2013 to boost sales forecasts. Look for incentives around September and October this year.
     
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    Yep. Its getting about that time. To build another AR that is.
     
  10. justice06rr

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    Yep, its a good time to start those builds again. Just be patient and try to get parts in stock.

    I actually built a Spikes AR15 during the panic for under $1k. Took a little while though as the BCG was the hardest thing to find at the time.
     
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    I have been wanting a Colt 6920 for about a year and waited too long. I refused to pay the locally inflated prices so I have been casually looking at online auctions. I found one Saturday, new in the box. Even after shipping and paying for the FFL transfer it was cheaper than the local Wal-Mart after taxes.
     
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    So what is a good price on a Colt 6920? I am on a 3 day hold at Wal-Mart for the one I tried to purchase last night. $1147 is the price they had on it. Is that still too high?
     
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    Gun show was $1099 (new) for 6920 last Saturday. Not sure how many he had. To me it seemed like a sure pre-banic price.
     
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    That sounds right.

    I think freebird is looking at the Magpul 6920. It's the same at my Walmart.
     
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    That is a pretty good price. I got a Magpul edition M4/LE6920 for $1050 pre-panic.
     
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    Hey Oily, I got my M400 right after Sandy for about $900.00 at Walmart and I love it, The trigger was a little rough for my type of shooting so I put in a Geisselle SSAE trigger and added a Leopold Scope and mounts. After 500 rounds no ftf, fte, or any kind of failure, noda zip, its a real tac driver and I couldn't be happier.
     
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    So is that an Ok price for the Magpul 6920 at Walmart or still too high?
     
  18. Bill Jones

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    Seems fair to me. The regular 6920 is 1097$ at my local Wal- Mart.
     
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    New Burshmaster-gton with standard handle, iron sights and telescoping stock costs $700+ tax.
     
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