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Article: Va. Tech father: Pass better gun laws

Discussion in 'Legal' started by nwilliams, Jun 19, 2007.

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  1. nwilliams

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    Just came across another article I figured I'd share it.

     
  2. JohnBT

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    From this morning's Richmond Times-Dispatch:

    "Virginia's mental-health system may be understaffed, underfunded and under fire, but learning to read might help get things pointed in the right direction.

    That was the view yesterday from key legislators who told mental-health officials that state laws may not be as murky as some have alleged; nor are they solely to blame for the breakdowns in procedure that allowed troubled Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho to slip through the cracks of the state's mental-health system.

    After state mental-health Inspector General James W. Stewart III recently spelled out findings about Cho's muddled care in December 2005, some lawmakers said state law simply wasn't being followed. And they recoiled at any notion that state laws leave gray areas about treatment plans and monitoring outpatient care.

    "I don't see them as lacking in clarity," said a frustrated Del. Robert B. Bell, R-Charlottesville, referring to code sections that specifically assign responsibility for outpatient-treatment plans to the local mental-health agency. "It seems as clear as day that they are supposed to do something.""
     
  3. jselvy

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    And here we have the opening volley for HR 2640 part II.
    From involuntary commitment to any court ordered evaluation. Before you shout me down for being overly paranoid. I think that is exactly what this guy is asking for.

    Jefferson
     
  4. K-Romulus

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    I have tried to find out what gun laws this guy would like to see passed. No luck with Google.
     
  5. Fn-P9

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    So if you are a private practice psychologist and you see someone who my be a danger to himself and/or others, do you have to call up the state to say "yeah ol Jim bob here may kill someone"? I wonder what is the exact process the doctor has to go through. Seems almost ridiculous that he has to follow up on his patient by hurting his patient through laws. Seems somewhat counter productive to try and heal someone but keep beating them down by hampering his 2nd amend. and who knows what else.

    If you work in the gun industry, get a divorce and feel really depressed, then a anti-gun shrink reports to the law enforcement that you MAY try to kill your self, you get thrown INVOLUNTARILY into a medical evaluation suite; seems that you loose 2nd and prob loose your job. Even if 99.9999% of depression is a thing that comes and goes, especially when 2 people get divorced. Sorry for a run on sentence.:confused:
     
  6. Henry Bowman

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    "Gun Free Zones" are a loophole in the law that protects evil and/or crazy criminals, and yes it needs to be closed.

    Is there any rational reason why any status that would prevent you from buying/owning a firearm should not be applied to buying/operating a motor vehicle? If "for the children" bans were enacted and enforced across the board using the anti-gun logic, it would inconvenience the masses and they might object. "The police will protect us all" makes as much sense as "you can just use public transportation."
     
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    "The father of one of the Virginia Tech shooting victims asked state lawmakers Monday to pass better gun laws and close the legal loopholes that allowed a student gunman to skirt Virginia's mental health system."

    Maybe I've read too many local articles and heard too many local broadcasts, but it appears to me that he was addressing the cracks in the mental health system that Cho fell through. I didn't see him addressing gun laws directly - only the mental health system and the fact that the court-ordered treatment didn't keep Cho from acquiring guns. IOW, a breakdown of the system that was supposedly in place.

    I know how the posted article reads, but that wasn't how the rest of them came across. They focused on the day's topic - the mental health system.

    John
     
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