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Whitehouse.gov petitions just make the current Adminstration aware that a threshold number of people want the executive to pay attention to an issue. We can assume they're already "paying attention" to every effort to ban firearms, just not the way we like.

It does no harm to field and sign such petitions since it puts them on notice that enough people took the time to reach the threshold, but WE CAN NOT STOP THERE.
 
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Thanks for the heads up.

The bill is HR 4269. The title says it all.

H.R.4269 - To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269

Here's a little something I composed to send to my representative.

Dear Representative XXX


First of all, thank you for supporting and continuing to support our Second Amendment rights. Secondly, it has come to my attention that a number of gun control bills are being introduced for consideration to become laws. Among them, HR. 4269 which would ban certain types of sporting rifles and pass numerous other restrictions on our rights to possess and use firearms. Please oppose this legislation. Studies by various groups have found that increased laws have little to no effect on violence and crime rates and may be counter-productive. Furthermore, this bill and similar gun control measures fly in the face of the concept of “innocent until proven guilty”. Instead, perhaps focusing on issues like jobs, education, and border security/immigration would be more productive.

Thank you,

XXXX

This bill has the support of over 120 reps form 30 states and DC. I doubt it'll go anywhere but I want to know my congressman has heard form me on this matter.
 
No offense but does anyone really think all the voices in the world would stop the gun-grabbers from doing what they want to do? Obama is considering executive orders to circumvent law... despite large opposition... he clearly is going to do what HE wants and not what WE want.
 
"Whitehouse.gov petitions just make the whitehouse aware that a threshold number of people want the executive to pay attention to an issue."
Which is why these slack-tivist petitions (especially from our side) are such a joke; the gun control 'issue' already has the White House's full attention, in case anyone has not been paying attention :rolleyes:

TCB
 
Ahh this is the work of my Congressman, David Cicilline. Biggest crook in the congress by far. Thank God Rhode Island will be losing one of its two seats in Congress.
 
No offense but does anyone really think all the voices in the world would stop the gun-grabbers from doing what they want to do?
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They have so far. Consider that our "voices" elect our politicians, respond to media bias by comment, include pro2A media sources, etc. It isn't just one poll. So, YES, our voices have and do make a difference. That said, we should be efficient in their use and make sure they're applied to the best place possible.

Whitehouse.gov polls aren't the most effective pressure points, but scooterd has made us aware of the poll on HR 4269 and by directing our voices towards our house representatives and by telling other members about HR 4269 so they can speak up as well, we can put pressure where it is needed, on the House members that will vote on it and on the committee members that will decide if it gets to the floor for a vote and on the Senate and the committee members there for the senate version.

That's how you defeat these sorts of bills. Work along several lines and never give the Antis a clear path forward.
 
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Sometimes I think that posting comments to a biased news article does no good. But I recently checked my notifications at Disqus (after I found I could) and noticed comments up voted (thumbs up) months and sometimes a year or more after the original comment was posted. So yeah, sometimes it helps to make comments. Even if you don't change minds, you can let like-minded persons know they are not alone.
 
No offense but does anyone really think all the voices in the world would stop the gun-grabbers from doing what they want to do?
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Choking them with comments on the SS109 ban proposal sure set them back a ways.

Dunno if you noticed, but the pendulum has been swinging back our way with some force lately; and the only reason that has happened (with gun owners being a minority) is that we're a rather vocal, determined group of folks.

Stay quiet if you want, that's your right, but you aren't doing us any good that way.
 
I live in Illinois, my senators and president want me dead because I've spent 40 + years writing letters and funding pro gun groups. That's what keeps us winning. This White House petition is a waste of band width. Write your reps and send a check to the NRA,GOA or the SAF. I just did them all.
 
This is not a assault weapons ban ,but a semi-automatic sporting gun ban. This is the first step in firearm confiscation . Next will be handguns ,then scoped rifles ,and after that, the remainder of long-guns. A slow death for the 2nd Amendment...and a precursor for the dismemberment of the other 9 amendments in the Bill of Rights.


Can someone explain to me what a assault weapon is?

AR-15 vs Ruger Mini-14 vs a Remington 7400?

all three are semi-auto rifles ...........cosmetics are the only variable, as in comparison to one woman that wears makeup and another that doesn't ......maybe we should ban women's makeup....................
 
Look at the list of cosponsors. Note that they are all from one party. Always vote against that party. Problem solved.
 
Forget the petition, it doesn't matter. Write your own representatives! Find out who your Senators & House Representatives are and write them. Let them know to OPPOSE HR 4269. This has worked very well in the past and will continue to do so. If no one speaks up they don't think anyone cares or is paying attention, when they get dozens or hundreds of responses then it makes them think.
 
Ryanxia is right.

So far our current president has tried every trick in the book to get congress to pass gun control legislation. And even during part of the time when his party controlled the senate, nothing got through to his desk.

The reason what could have happened but didn't, is because of those who took the time to write letters and send emails to the point where fence-sitting legislators concluded that forwarding gun control bills to the White House might have a negative affect on their re-election.

Which is why we need to do it again.
 
Writing more letters to the representatives/senators about this.

They hear from me enough, I might just get an invite to their house to discuss over dinner instead of reading all my emails/letters.
 
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Ryanxia is right.

So far our current president has tried every trick in the book to get congress to pass gun control legislation. And even during part of the time when his party controlled the senate, nothing got through to his desk.

The reason what could have happened but didn't, is because of those who took the time to write letters and send emails to the point where fence-sitting legislators concluded that forwarding gun control bills to the White House might have a negative affect on their re-election.

Which is why we need to do it again.
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My congresscritter is one of the co-sponsors. :barf: I wrote him an email anyway.
 
So HSO, who specifically should we be contacting regarding HR 4269? Obviously our House Reps but should we be contacting members of the Judiciary committee or the Chairman to try to keep it from going to the House floor for a vote?
 
My congresscritter is one of the co-sponsors. I wrote him an email anyway.
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Good for you. It may not make any difference, but then again it may. The upcoming election is shaping up to be one that may be harsh on incumbents. :uhoh:
 
I think that if a cosponsor of this bill is your rep, that is ALL THE MORE REASON to write to them. Granted, many with a 'D' after their name already have their one track minds made up, but occasionally, there are some who can think and reason. If yours is one of the latter, and they get enough feedback from the citizens of their district, it may make them think twice. They don't really have any principles (they are politicians, after all) and more than one has changed their positions in hopes of getting re-elected
 
My representatives aren't on the list of sponsors. But then I do live in a state in which no Democrat presidential candidate ever stops while campaigning.

I wonder why the usual suspects, such as Feinstein aren't on the bill.
 
Don't worry. She'll likely be on the Senate version. But, that is not done - and if this bill is defeated perhaps it won't.
 
Folks,

I've provided links to the Judiciary Committee and from there the links to the committee members. Letters to each of them should be sent.

Keep your letters short and simple.


Dear Representative XXYYZZ,

I am strongly opposed to HR 4269 and respectfully request you oppose this useless attempt to infringe upon my rights as a citizen.

As you and everyone else knows the firearms the usual suspects want to ban are nothing more than a symbolic first move to ban all private possession of firearms. The FBI, DOJ and CDC have repeatedly shown these rifles are involved in a minescule percentage of crimes and removing them from public sales will not move the needle one bit in reducing homicides. If there's no public safety basis for banning these firearms then what is the real basis for this legislation other than to support the political careers of the opponents to our way of life? Since the firearms bear no functional difference to firearms the gun prohibitionists claim they don't intend to ban it is assumed that our ever-grasping enemies intend to ban these guns based on their appearance and then when no benefit is seen intend to move on to all semiautomatic firearms like these. The ultimate goal of fearmongers is to gain control over the people for their own political gain and not for the benefit of the people.

I strongly oppose HR 4269 and expect you to as well.

Respectfully,

AABBCC


OR, if you have a soft on the 2A Representative

I am strongly opposed to HR 4269 and respectfully request you oppose this useless legislation.

As you and everyone else are aware, the FBI, DOJ and CDC have repeatedly shown these rifles are involved in a minescule percentage of crimes yet are used for sporting and defensive purposes across the country. Removing them from public sales will not move the needle one bit in reducing homicides unless it puts one of the 150,000+ citizens of this country that have used firearms to stop a violent crime at greater risk of becoming a victim. If there's no public safety basis for banning these firearms then what is the real basis for this legislation other than to support the political careers of some?

Since the firearms bear no functional difference to firearms the sponsors of this bill claim they don't intend to ban it must be assumed that the ever-grasping intend to ban these guns based solely on their appearance. When no benefit is seen they will blindly to move on to all semiautomatic firearms. Instead of focusing on the root causes of crime, poverty, lack of opportunity, hopelessness and the culture of violence seen in the areas with the highest violent crime rates, they squander our time and resources on objectifying an inanimate object and demonizing Democrat and Republican gun owners. The ultimate goal of the sponsors of legislation like this is their own political gain and not for the benefit of the people.

I strongly oppose HR 4269 and expect you to as well.

Respectfully,
 
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