jakemccoy
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Handing a gun over to another person while the gun is on safety doesn't bother me too much. As long as fingers are off triggers and muzzles are pointed downrange, then I'm fine.
at the shooting range i noticed something
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N003k
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Er....
Rule 1: All guns are always loaded, treat them as such....sounds like they did? Safety on, barrel pointed down range...
Rule 2: Never let the muzzle cover anything you're not willing to destroy....kept it down range or pointed at some wood between the stations? Followed...
Rule 3: Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire....Kept their fingers off the trigger? Each held the gun by the stock? If so, no problem there.
Rule 4: Be aware of your target and what's beyond it....It was pointed down range the whole time, right? If so, followed, and not a concern.
It sounds like all 4 rules were followed...and I really don't see a major concern as long as all 4 ARE followed.
As for ricochets...how the hell are ya gonna make sure your rounds don't ricochet during REGULAR fire? I've got hit by a deformed 9mm bullet at the range once...and no one was doing anything stupid then. (Small 14 stall range, me and my guests had 2 to ourselves, and only 3 other people on the range...I was taking a break at the time...)
If we've gotta worry about how to 100% prevent ricochets off objects we can't see down range, well....I think we'd all better stop shooting lol.
Rule 1: All guns are always loaded, treat them as such....sounds like they did? Safety on, barrel pointed down range...
Rule 2: Never let the muzzle cover anything you're not willing to destroy....kept it down range or pointed at some wood between the stations? Followed...
Rule 3: Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire....Kept their fingers off the trigger? Each held the gun by the stock? If so, no problem there.
Rule 4: Be aware of your target and what's beyond it....It was pointed down range the whole time, right? If so, followed, and not a concern.
It sounds like all 4 rules were followed...and I really don't see a major concern as long as all 4 ARE followed.
As for ricochets...how the hell are ya gonna make sure your rounds don't ricochet during REGULAR fire? I've got hit by a deformed 9mm bullet at the range once...and no one was doing anything stupid then. (Small 14 stall range, me and my guests had 2 to ourselves, and only 3 other people on the range...I was taking a break at the time...)
If we've gotta worry about how to 100% prevent ricochets off objects we can't see down range, well....I think we'd all better stop shooting lol.
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Gunfighter123
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I am in agreement with jakemccoy
Hokkmike
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If they are pointed downrange and the range is red or closed to walkers it is OK.
eatont9999
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I generally unload the gun and lock the slide back or leave the bolt open. I don't think I have ever handed some one a loaded gun without at least the safety being on. The two rules I always obey when handling a gun in public or around others is muzzle direction and keep your booger hooks off the boom switch. I also tell new shooters that.
When instructing a new shooter, the first thing I do with ANY firearm is make sure they know how to use it and what to do as far as safety goes. I go from loading a revolver to how the safeties on a 1911 work. It means more to a new shooter if they have shot a kind of gun and know HOW to use it if they need to.
When instructing a new shooter, the first thing I do with ANY firearm is make sure they know how to use it and what to do as far as safety goes. I go from loading a revolver to how the safeties on a 1911 work. It means more to a new shooter if they have shot a kind of gun and know HOW to use it if they need to.
Uh... When we are on the firing line during training we don't usually hand guns to eachother. If we have a malfunction we do a SPORTS drill and if that doesn't work we ground the weapon and raise our hand for an instuctor to come by. I don't see why you think some guys on a firing line with the same weapon would be passing a gun to their buddy.
RainDodger
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Sorry. There is no judgement call here. You never move a gun to another firing position with a closed action. You don't hand a gun to someone else with a closed action or latched cylinder.
If you transfer a gun to someone else, you open the action.
If you transfer a gun to someone else, you open the action.
Personally I only move unloaded/locked open guns from station to station. I don't think I'd be bothered by others though as long as as the gun stays in a safe direction. If someone moving a loaded gun from station to station had an AD, would the gun still be pointed in a safe direction after the first shot?
I notice that when moving a gun from station to station it can be hard to maintain a firm grip on a gun when moving sideways and around the station barriers.
I notice that when moving a gun from station to station it can be hard to maintain a firm grip on a gun when moving sideways and around the station barriers.
I guess for me it all depends on the level of the shooter I am handing something to. My best friend with 3 tours of duty can do as he please with a firearm as I trust him with my life. A brand new shooter I will unload the weapon and teach them how the action works, how to load and how to make clear.
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I do the same thing that Taliv does, usally the people I take along don't know how to load the firearms or even work the action, so what I do is load it and chamber it and put it on the bench for a handgun, then let them pick it up or for a rifle I hold it high up the stock and on the butt of the gun and make them put there hands right next to mine. And you should always here a thank you before you let go of the gun, signals they are ready to take it from you.
Elbert P . Suggins
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Always assume the gun is loaded but as long as the muzzle is downrange and the safety is on that is enough. Anything else is an unloaded gun which is totally worthless!
ny32182
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As long as the muzzle stays downrange, I could care less if it is loaded/unloaded/saftey on/off, whatever.
I wouldn't see a point in dropping a mag/ejecting a round/fiddling with safeties just to hand a gun to a buddy at the range. As long as everyone knows to keep their finger off the trigger, guns are going to magically discharge themselves.
I wouldn't see a point in dropping a mag/ejecting a round/fiddling with safeties just to hand a gun to a buddy at the range. As long as everyone knows to keep their finger off the trigger, guns are going to magically discharge themselves.
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DHJenkins
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Oh, so proper capitalization and the use of paragraphs & complete sentences don't bother in you the least, eh?
Philistine.
I hand my wife loaded pistols (including pistols with no safety) all the time. She has good muzzle & finger discipline, so I'm not worried.
Besides, how far can you actually trust other people in the range? The odds that one of them will snap and start shooting people are probably on par with the odds that one of them will have a negligent discharge that injures someone.
You can always leave or report them to the R.O. if it's that much of an issue.
Honestly, you'll get more done by complaining to them than you will to us - even if they don't appear to be violating any of the 4 rules.
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