ATF: Permit To Carry Satisfies Background Check For Buying Guns

[Tommygunn]

To qualify as an exemption to the Brady Law, a state permit must require the holder to submit fingerprints, photographs and the issuing state must run an FBI background check at least every five years......

Hmmmm. As stated, Alabama allows use of ccw permit in place of nice check. I've done this more than once.
But no fingerprints have ever been made of my prints. My ccw does have a photo though. It was taken by the Sheriff's office upon application.

 

[Hanzo581]

Yeah, I hope Virginia gets this one day, my background checks are quick 99.9% of the time, but I know plenty who have carry permits that aren't so lucky.

 

[AirForceShooter]

ATF won't give us poor folk in Florida a waiver.
They think out CCW requirements are too easy.
And the expiration too long

AFS

 

[larryh1108]

In NC, your CHP waives the background check at the time of purchase.
To buy a handgun you fill out the 4473, show your permit and walk out with the gun.
That works very well.

 

[entropy]

GA was that way years ago, the permit saved you $10 or so each time you bought something.

md barely grants permits (reason 2,409,092 I hate this state) so the $10 they charge is something I'll have to keep paying. Even AFTER you get a license to buy here (take a class, fingerprinted, photographed, etc) you have to pay for the check and wait the 8 days.

Same in WI as MD. Plus you fill out a State Handgun form similar to a 4473. A CCW has sufficed in MN for a long time, long before NICS checks.

 

[MarkDido]

ATF won't give us poor folk in Florida a waiver.
They think out CCW requirements are too easy.
And the expiration too long

AFS

Yeah, but at least the CCW license eliminates the 3 day waiting period for handguns.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

ATF accepts the Arkansas CHL in lieu of a background check.

Now let them take the next step and determine a CCW is adequate for buying a gun for personal use by mail.

 

[Moparnut]

Kansas carry permit satisfies ATF. We still fill out the form but there is no NICS check.

Arkansas is the same. Fill out paperwork, they copy the CHL and DL, and you head out the door with your purchase.

 

[.308 Norma]

Arkansas is the same. Fill out paperwork, they copy the CHL and DL, and you head out the door with your purchase.

That's the only reason I still carry my CCW permit. Idaho went constitutional carry last year, about a year after both my wife and I renewed out 5-year permits. I don't suppose we can get refunds.
We actually are going to get our Idaho "Enhanced" CCW permits when out standard permits expire though. The Idaho Enhanced CCW permits have reciprocity with a few more states, and they allow for legal, on-campus carry on Idaho college and university campuses. We don't much care about carrying in those additional states, or carrying on campus, but we do want to get the training required for the Enhanced permits. And we still like the convenience of buying guns without waiting for the phone in background checks.

 

[hdwhit]

Med Wheeler wrote:
I read it that he does not want to pay for a background check each time he purchases a firearm if one isn't required. In most cases, the buyer pays for the NICS (or other) check.

I've never been charged for an NICS check. I've paid FFLs to do paperwork incident to the transfer of a gun and where I haven't presented a CHL (in Texas it is now a LTC) card thus requiring an NICS check the fee didn't go up.

 

[nstoolman1]

A CWP in Idaho gets you a pass on the BG check.

 

[9MMare]

Yes in WA. St.

 

[HOWARD J]

I purchased a handgun at Cabelas--they took my cpl card &
were gone for a long time. I think the called the gov. to make sure the card was proper--to add insult to injury they stuck me with a new employee to sell me the gun

 

[toivo]

New York used to do this. Then the ATF revoked the privilege because they determined that NY's permit record-keeping was too sloppy. It might have had something to do with Eleanor Roosevelt still being listed on the database as a permit holder.

 

[GarySTL]

Missouri you pay $30. every time.

I've been buying guns in Missouri for 50 years and never paid for a BG check. If your dealer is charging you for something that costs him nothing, shop elsewhere.

 

[bikemutt]

Oregon charges $10 for BG check, I'm guessing because they run the check through OSP.

 

[VinnAY]

Missouri you pay $30. every time.

MO does not charge for BG's. If you mean the fee the FFL charges you, that's something else, and you're overpaying.

 

[Yo Mama]

Welcome to the club. I think this is in effect for CCW holders in about 36+ states and has been for a number of years. I know it has beed in Arizona for better than the 8 years that I have had mine.

I am in Arizona as well, you still have the background check done you just don't need to wait for the call.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

An Iowa a carry permit eliminates background checks when purchasing.

 

[.308 Norma]

I purchased a handgun at Cabelas--they took my cpl card &
were gone for a long time. I think the called the gov. to make sure the card was proper--to add insult to injury they stuck me with a new employee to sell me the gun

I had nearly the same experience at Cabela's in Idaho. As mentioned previously, an Idaho CWP replaces the phone-in background check when buying a gun. But Cabela's made a photo-copy of my Idaho CWP and attached it to the paperwork. And as you said - it took a "long time." It seemed to me that the Cabela's employees didn't even know how to run the copy machine, much less understand that a phone-in background check isn't required in Idaho when the gun buyer has a CWP.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Hmmmm. As stated, Alabama allows use of ccw permit in place of nice check. I've done this more than once.
But no fingerprints have ever been made of my prints. My ccw does have a photo though. It was taken by the Sheriff's office upon application.

I used mine for a purchase just this morning. My Alabama CCW permit has no photo or fingerprints.

 

[Elkins45]

To qualify as an exemption to the Brady Law, a state permit must require the holder to submit fingerprints, photographs and the issuing state must run an FBI background check at least every five years.

KY doesn't require fingerprints and we are exempt from NICS.

 

[Tommygunn]

I used mine for a purchase just this morning. My Alabama CCW permit has no photo or fingerprints.

My mother used to live in Lawrence Cty, her carry permit was paper and had no provision for a photo. I think the modern plastic card ID format has encouraged the use of photos, but of course doesn't mandate them.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

My mother used to live in Lawrence Cty, her carry permit was paper and had no provision for a photo. I think the modern plastic card ID format has encouraged the use of photos, but of course doesn't mandate them.

My county (Blount) still uses paper permits.

 

[Walkalong]

Alabama has it!

Yep. I have the picture ID. I like it. Better than the old ones.