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Attn nevada gun owners

Discussion in 'Activism' started by VegasAR15, Feb 7, 2011.

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  1. VegasAR15

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    Important Nevada Legislation

    If you are a Nevada resident, then please go to these links and vote for these two bills. The legislature takes these votes and comments into consideration before voting on a bill.

    SB126 will remove the requirement for you to qualify with every semi-auto on your CCW. Semi-autos would become just like the revolvers on the Nevada CCW. One key bit of wording needs to be changed before it passes though. Right now it is worded so that you can only carry a gun if it belongs to you, this would change the current law. I think this would especially affect Clark County residents because of the blue card registration.
    http://www.leg.state.nv.us/AppCF/Opinion/76th2011/vwComments.cfm?drpMenu=292

    AB8 would establish a Castle Doctrine in Nevada.
    http://www.leg.state.nv.us/AppCF/Opinion/76th2011/vwComments.cfm
    Select AB8 on the dropdown, I couldn't get it to give me a direct link.
     
  2. VegasAR15

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    Don't know for sure, but I think it only applies to semi-auto pistols.
     
  6. tyeo098

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    ...so Nevada doesnt have CCW now? Or is it revolver-only?
     
  7. RockyMtnTactical

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    We do have CCW but it is weapon specific for semi autos. In other words, if I want to carry my Glock 27 I have to qualify with that specific gun and have it added to the list of guns I can carry per my CCW. If I go out tomorrow and buy a Glock 26 though, I can't just start carrying it. I must go and qualify with it through a NRA instructor, then I must go to the police substation and have it added on (it's a pain in the butt, it costs money and it's simply unnecessary). I still cannot carry the G26 though. I'd have to wait for my CCW to come back to me with the Glock 26 listed on it. THEN I could carry it.

    That is not the case though with revolvers. If I qualify with a J-frame (for instance), I can carry ANY revolver under the sun.

    This bill would essentially make it so if I qualify with my Glock 27, I can carry a Glock 27, a Glock 26, a 1911, or any other semi auto you can think of.

    Got it?
     
  8. WhistlinDixie

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    That sounds like an absolutely horrible system. I hope that Bill passes. Best of luck.
     
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    Now I understand it, thanks for explaining it :)

    Sounds like a hassle, we dont have that here in the gunshine state!
     
  10. RockyMtnTactical

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    It's worse than that. Clark County Residents (the county in which Las Vegas is in) are required to have all handguns registered. Super lame. We are working on fixing that one too.

    Thanks.
     
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    Question for Nevadians, does the same go for revolvers? Granted I went to the extremes of looking on Handgunlaw.com, but from the law they quoted, it sounds like the law doesn't make any distinction between revolvers/semi-autos. Yet when I look at the sample permit, it says: "revolvers authorized".

    (Gathering data points, planning for trips, want to be legal in as many states as practical, etc)
     
  12. RockyMtnTactical

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    If you qualify with a revolver and it says "revolvers authorized" (which mine does) then you are allowed to carry ANY revolver you own in NV. The new proposed law would make it the same way with semis as it is with revolvers.
     
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    Okay, thank you, I think I get it, I also think I get a -1 in "comprehending legalese":banghead:

    (Not that I'm that surprised, my dad may be a lawyer, but I followed a more respectable path.:neener:)
     
  14. RockyMtnTactical

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    Well, there's a chance I am the one with the inability to convey my thoughts properly too. :)
     
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    You're doing just fine. Its easy to miss stuff when browsing on the internet quickly. I hope more people that live there and can do something see this thread. Thats a broken system that needs to be fixed.
     
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    Well, at least in NV it can be fixed, here in the PRC we're just happy to have any CCW at all.
     
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    @RockyMtnTactical, meh, my confusion was from the legal wording, and that I haven't looked at NV specific CC laws, not yours, which make perfect sense from the POV of someone living in NV.

    Remember, politician and lawyers make the written legal language as difficult as possible as job security.:uhoh:
     
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    Thanks RockyMtnTactical for posting this.

    I am in Las Vegas, and, I hope this passes.


    I remember when the Revolver qualification was ONLY for that exact make and Model Revolver, also.


    Really silly, worse than silly.


    Registration here is a nightmare also, the people who work at the Police Stations who do the registration procedure, are about the most ignorant, often nasty, totally uninformed about even the most basic Gun related details, people one could find...I really am disgusted with the whole thing.

    They drop the Guns on the floor, bang the Gun against other Guns, scrape Guns on table tops and so on, and, are resentful you even bothered coming in to Register one at all.

    REALLY rubs me the wrong way, especially if with some 98 percent Blue, minty lovely 'New Service' or NIB Colt 3rd Dragoon or other, having to hand it to some moron who goes in some back room with it for fourty five minutes and still can not describe it right on the 'card'...but refuses to believe anything I say as for what the Gun 'is'.


    Insisting a Cap & Ball is a "44 Special" since it says "44" on the Barrel and what else COULD it be???

    On and on...

    Greatly worse yet, if anything really old, and, here, of course, if you have a Match Lock, it is supposed to be 'registered', then they are all flipping out about "Wherz duh Cereal Numblerz???"

    I called the Sheriff a few times, telling him that if he really wants to alienate and offend the very people who he should be respecting here, just keep it up with this sort of Clown routine.


    Anyway...


    Hope it passes, and, I hope a few more improvements may forthcome, also.


    Eeeeeesh! Horrible!
     
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    Yes, our gun laws in the Silver State have some quirks to them. But it is major improvement to those of the state to our west.

    Also, comparing Vegas, and Clark County, to the rest of Nevada is unfair. That area is California-like. I think the Nevada-California border needs to be redrawn. Vegas should be placed in California, Susanville and area north should be placed in Nevada.
     
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    So, if you wish to carry a different type of firearms (let's say one day a Beretta 92, another day a Glock, or a Ruger GP) do you have to take all of them to class to qualify with? Or is it caliber based?

    I mean, that is great to get to shoot, but really...
     
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    Apparently you have to qualify with each and every semi-auto pistol you want to carry.
     
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    It is a total pain in the rear. Lets say you have a Glock 22 and a Glock 23. You have to shoot and qualify with each gun. Lets say you have a Kimber, a Springfield, and a Colt, you have to qualify with all three. Yet I can qualify for my revolver with a NAA mini revolver, and carry a S&W 629. It is a completely senseless law that is either there because they are scared of change, just pure stupid, or want the money you have to pay every time that you have to add a new gun to your CCW.

    It has actually kept me from buying new concealement guns, because I don't want to go through the hassle of filling out the paperwork and qualifying, then going down and sitting at the CCW Detail and paying to add it, then waiting a few months to be able to carry it.

    I am really hoping this will pass. There is also a bill going through right now to give Nevada a Castle Doctrine.
     
  23. RockyMtnTactical

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    Good job so far but we can do better. Get on it. It will only take a minute of your time.
     
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    I remember qualifying for my NV non-resident CCW permit. I brought one revolver and a case full of semi-autos. LOL, it was a bit of a pain but still fun.
     
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    I asked my CCW instructor about this. His theory is that every semi functions differently, so the state wants to make sure a person can handle the particular model he intend to carry. Revolvers are pretty much universal in their operation. If you can operate one you should be able to operate all of them. I have my own theory.

    I subscribe to "follow the money trail" method of explaining things. Most CCW instructors charge a small fee for qualifying with a different weapon. There, that explains it.
     
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