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August-September 2019 military surplus handgun 10 shot challenge

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by lionking, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. lionking

    lionking Member

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    lol love the angry face. It shoots good though for a surplus. It is becoming apparent to me based on my surplus guns and other posters that 25 yd target shooting with a run of the mill surplus is overly challenging. 15 yards seems the threshold . They weren't made for target shooting though which makes it interesting how we and the guns do at it.
     
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  2. lionking

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    Based on your targets any bad guy 15 yards or less is in trouble with you, anything past just use your awesome M1A
     
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    good idea ! :D
     
  4. lionking

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    OK so I fired the Remington Rand today, only tried once 10 shots at 10 yards after a test shooting at 6 o clock hold which shot low that way. It has a nice trigger, nice and light pull, I buried the front sight on center mass of the bulls, those small sight indoors on a black target is hard. I basically aligned the sights low on paper to see then raised up to the black and squeezed. I imagine outdoors in better light would have been better.

    LK
    Remington Rand 1945 built 1911A1
    Class 1 10 yards
    Federal 230gr FMJ
    Score 83-2X

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  5. lionking

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    Yugoslavian Tokarev. Only tried once, same thing as the 1911 above regarding sight hold, buried the sight center mass on the bull. It is shooting to the right, didn't bring my brass punch to drift the sight, and with limited ammo this is my submission however as you can see the grouping is not bad excluding a flyer, the trigger is god awful heavy though, so heavy my hand was shaking as I fired each time.

    LK
    Yugoslavian Tokarev 7.62x25mm
    Class 1 10 yards
    Prvi ammo
    Score 55 (shooting to right for now)

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  6. Thunderchicken

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    So I am curious about the rules. I have a European police surplus Beretta 84 (actually I have access to two because I liked it well enough I got my daughter one). I don’t know which force used it. Does it qualify? I guess it would have the distinction of being the least cool entry so far...
     
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  7. 1KPerDay

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    Or the coolest...
     
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  8. lionking

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    If it is bonified surplus go ahead. I just didn't want USA police surplus of later years in the challenge like Beretta 92 , H&K USP and such, those belong the LEO challenge currently in the autoloaders section.
     
  9. GarrettJ

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    Cool. I had been assuming military surplus. Or maybe when I think of surplus, I think of “old surplus”. The mid-frame Berettas having been made in the mid-80s, so I didn’t consider them. But if the surplus Beretta 84s are ok, I assume the surplus Beretta 81s that have been imported recently would qualify as well? It’s the same gun, only chambered in .32 ACP.

    Depending on which distributor’s website you read, they were either used by Italian police or their federal prison guards.
     
  10. lionking

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    Yes the 81 qualifies as well I been really thinking of getting one but this year I have already splurged a lot, still might get one but for now I want to put some back in the savings I dipped into.

    Hard to draw a line what is ok or not in this challenge, I am surprised no one has entered a surplus Makarov , but since it is confirmed those 81 Beretta are coming from a surplus police I think it should be ok. It becomes harder to confirm with USA surplus handguns like revolvers and such.

    Anyway at this point if anyone has a surplus gun that isn't of current past couple decades go ahead and enter it.
     
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  11. GarrettJ

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    I put up three targets, started at the 10-yd. line, and just kept moving back. Left target-10, right target-15, bottom target-25.

    There are a bunch of these Beretta 81 that were imported recently. And like most surplus, they’re only inexpensive while they’re available in bulk. As soon as this shipment gets bought up, I expect they will start creeping up pretty quickly. I’m tempted to get another, just because they are so inexpensive at the moment.


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    Class 1 - Score 92
    Class 2 - Score 84
    Class 3 - Score 75
    Beretta 81BB
    Aguila .32 ACP, 71 gr. FMJ
    9/21/19

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  12. Thunderchicken

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    Beretta 84
    Fiocchi 95 gr .380 FMJ
    10 yd - 71
    15 yd - 88
    25 yd - 41

    The gun shoots a bit high--you have to keep the center of the target well above the sights. I have no idea why the 25 yard was so bad but based on the others I have to say it was operator error.

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  13. lionking

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    And that concludes the surplus handgun challenge thanks to those who entered. Maybe next time we will see a Luger in this?

    Congrats to....

    Class 1 , 1KPerDay with a Walther P38 score 92-1X
    Class 2, Thunderchicken with a Beretta 84 score 88
    Class 3 1KPerDay using a FN Hi Power score 77-1X
     
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    Sweet! Where's my Caddillac? LOL
     
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    You win 100 Internets! :D
     
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    SWEET!
     
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