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Austrailia gun ban fail

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by AABEN, Dec 30, 2012.

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  1. Jaxondog

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    what course's do the thug's and criminal's take?
     
  2. Sabb0

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    Jaxondog, thats the pink elephant in the room that the government and the media refuse to acknowledge over here.

    Instead they beat on us LAFOs because we are an easy target and its easier for them to appear to be fixing it than actually do something about the real problem.

    Ms_Dragon, im really sorry to hear that your treated this badly. Ive lived in 4 different states in Aus. Sounds like you need to find a better area.

    The big point in this thread i think is please dont fall for what we did.

    Once its gone its very hard to get back.

    thanks.
     
  3. JFrame

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    I know I'm basically talking to the choir on this forum...But to any of those out there who are beating the drums for gun control -- or for incremental and "reasonable" accommodations -- I would like to reiterate the quotes of those folks above who have been there and done that...Especially because it runs contrary to the narrative that antis are trying to foist upon us about the "blessings" of gun control in other countries.


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  4. pezo

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    I just read the wilkepedia take on that port aurther shooting because I knew little about it but wow what nightmare scenario. The shooter had no resistance to do what he was enthusiastically doing until 2 distance police officers had to drive in. Doesn't even seem they may have even been armed. They get pinned down and the shooter calls the wife of one and torments her. It took hours and a special police force to "wait him out" of a burning building. Seems maybe the policing system was a bit laxed and got caught with their pants down so they demonized the gun to avoid the real issues. After an incident like that it makes it more apparent in a more free country to carry a firearm. Doesn't mention shooter wearing armor. If one person had a shot at that looney it could have only helped.
     
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    You're not the first Aussie lady I've heard that from.
     
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    Apologies for missing that, I will go back and read, it has been a fairly busy week, so I skimmed a fair bit. I apologise for that. I am sorry. Your assumption that I deliberately "sidestepped" it is wrong, and I don't appreciate your attitude (whoever you are) in telling me I have no credibility for giving my opinion. Your opinion is as worthless as mine, and your opinion that I have no credibility is itself incredible.

    It seems you must hang around the wrong people, and that sucks, but do something about it, don't cry about how bad your situation is. Yes there are a lot of brain-dead yobbo morons in this country, who have no intelligence, class or culture, but myself, being a software engineer find I spend most of my time around intelligent people, behaving in a pleasant and reasonable way. There's no reason you need to associate with the dregs of society.

    But I'm done with this thread, just like the others in past years I bother to try to correct the "Great Austrailiain gun ban" that actually wasn't what it is blown out of proportion to be, this one has turned out the same. I am wrong, you are right, Australians are all sheep, living in a tyrannical hellhole. Guns were banned, they don't exist here, especially not in any manner where it is reasonable straightforward to obtain.
     
  9. Sabb0

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    Apology

    Hi, i feel i have to apologise for my fellow countryman above "route666"

    We are all different and thats life i guess.

    Anyone who has travelled will realise that we are all very similar apart from colour or language or culture. We all know others that are happy, sad, angry, enlightened, Pig headed etc. But human nature is universal, people in positions of power will eventually abuse this responsibility, regardless of their political leaning. Whats happening now in your country has happened in every country on earth and will continue to happen. Human nature is human nature and is very hard to rise above.

    on a side note, i just got word that my mother is stranded in Port Arthur due to a massive bushfire in that area. There has been one death and one town lost at this stage. Shes ok but is a coincidence.
     
  10. AABEN

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    The movie of them dumping guns was in Australia! Go back and watch it.
     
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    I see that you do NOT have where you live or what state you are from!
     
  13. fallingblock

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    The basic message would seem to me to be....

    "Do not allow what happened to Australia's lawful firearms owners to happen to you":uhoh:

    I have lived in Australia since 1995 and was present for the Howard-led media frenzy and lynch mob attitude to lawful shooters which ensued.

    Route666 greatly oversimplifies what happened in 1996:

    In actual fact, those holding semi-auto rifles and semi-auto/pump action shotguns were compelled to sell their firearms to the government. The draconian exemptions for keeping them were simply not attainable by the vast majority of shooters. In most states a registration list made this compulsory seizure possible.

    Recently an Australia Post operator in Sydney has been charged with importing 120 Glock 26 pistols and selling them on the black market.
    Any "moron" with sufficient funds (which to be fair, is certainly an accurate description of the Port Arthur shooter) can acquire a firearm relatively easily anywhere in Australia, so long as they do not try to make it "legal". Americans might think that more Australians would have valued their means to self defense, but such was not the case. Australian society is quite different to that part of the U.S. population which lawfully holds firearms for whatever reason.

    Let's just do our utmost to see that what happened in Oz doesn't happen in the U.S.
     
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    Considering some of them just used their arms to defend against tyranny not even 70 years ago, you would think they would have a different view...:confused:

    Hey, we have pictures of the dudes who wrote the second amendment on our money. Some of those less gun friendly countries have pictures of English Monarchs on their money. The US split away from the rest of the "Western World" long ago. A bunch of those other countries had their revolutions, and restorations, and revolutions again, and restorations again.

    The US has had some tyrants in command too (some of them have pictures on our money also), luckily they didn't have a lifetime term limit though....
     
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    But the US population never sent guns to Australia to help them after being attacked during WW2, which was your original claim; the video you reference had NOTHING to do with WW2, and showed them dumping guns which had been turned in after Howard passed his ignorant law.
     
  16. Sabb0

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    correct. they were sent to England during the war.
     
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